"Reddish Jammer" Y-Wing Build

So it is.

But similar, not identical, don't you think? The black mark on top of the Y-Wing looks asymmetrical, to my eye, in very much the same way the lower nurnie looks asymmetrical. And I can't find the decal for it, and find it hard to imagine/believe they would have painted an asymmetrical black mark on top of the canopy that just happened to look just like the negative space left over if this nurnie was glued on to the black primer layer, and then painted over, and then knocked off later by rough handling.

Also, I've confirmed the greeblie from Post #29, the Entex 1/16 Rolls Royce rings ARE official greeblies for the rear vectral inner rings. So you can add those to your Confirmed Donor lists, if you haven't already.
 
Just a thought... just a question:
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Any of you ever wonder if this black "decal" (circled in red) on top of the canopy isn't actually a decal, and might be a "black" space left over after a nurnie got knocked off?

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Cause here's a nurnie that kind of fits, and below it a bigger one in kind of the same shape. See the uneven-ness of the nurnie below? Now compare that shape to the black shape on the actual Red Jammer, below:

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See how it is equally "uneven" on right and left side, just like the lower nurnie is?

Just wondering if it makes more sense as a "missing nurnie" or as a black paint mark or decal. And if it is a decal (from one of the train sheets, for instance), can one of you point me to which decal sheet it comes from?
Im pretty sure it's a decal as it's on Gold Leader and Red 2 also. If it's a nurnie we would have to say it fell off all three, which I guess is possible but less likely.
 
Mike,

Thank you! That settles it. Do you have close-up images of the decal on Gold Leader and Red 2? And do you know where the decal is originally from? I have "all" the existing Y-Wing decal source sheets, but don't see it on any of them (or else have simply missed it multiple times).

Thanks again, this is the kind of cross-checking that is extremely helpful and derives its proofs by triangulation, and with authority. This is much appreciated.
 
Are you talking about this decal?

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I got it on a sheet from Jason Eaton. I may have a couple extras, I’ll look today.
 
Yes, that's the one. Would love to see the original, and/or have one of your extras. Do you know the source code of the decal (i.e., where it originally came from)?

Thanks!
 
Pretty sure this model
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is the source for the front landing gear strut piece:
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That goes here on the Hurricane sidewall piece:
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Which, when modified, looks like this:
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and then gets the Kettenkrad piece, the Yamato piece, etc.

You may have discovered this years ago, but it was new to me, as it wasn't/isn't on any current parts maps.
 
Yes, that's the one. Would love to see the original, and/or have one of your extras. Do you know the source code of the decal (i.e., where it originally came from)?

Thanks!

I’ll look in my shop today and see if I have another decal.
I don’t know the source code, but it looks like an aircraft marking I have seen before. I can’t place it at the moment..

I got it on a decal sheet from Jason Eaton awhile back. He sometimes does a run of these decals.

Edited to add: sent you a PM.
 
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Mike,

Thank you! That settles it. Do you have close-up images of the decal on Gold Leader and Red 2? And do you know where the decal is originally from? I have "all" the existing Y-Wing decal source sheets, but don't see it on any of them (or else have simply missed it multiple times).

Thanks again, this is the kind of cross-checking that is extremely helpful and derives its proofs by triangulation, and with authority. This is much appreciated.
Here are those images you requested. I was kinda right on Red 2, iit was just when it was Blue 1. LOL
 

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Don't forget to modify this guy (Airfix 1/72 Heinkel 177, wheel strut piece)
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And this guy (Frog 1/72 Bristol Beaufighter, landing gear strut, Part #20), so that it looks like the above black piece
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To go here (upper left of pic, in gray) and here (lower center of pic, in blue) on the Red Jammer version of the Y-Wing. The modification of the Heinkel piece, on the real Red Jammer, isn't actually this severe, but this is where (among other places) I discovered, by reverse-engineering, that my armature dimensions were insufficient to carry the amount of greeblie real estate I needed to plant on. So in future I'm adding a few mm's here and a few cm's there.
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It's unfortunate some of the main dimensions are off, fortunately I was able to catch this early on in my build and correct it. None the less it still makes a beautiful Y-Wing.
 
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Do you need a little jig to guide your spacing of the front laser cannons?
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Part #139 from the Airfix 1/24 Hawker Hurricane is the perfect little spacer for you, and who knows, may have been what Dave Beasley used to space the original cannons. I tend to think this is possible, assuming a sort of Occam's Razor approach to answering the question, "Why is it this way and not some other way?" and then I look around, and often find a plausibly satisfying answer in one of the kits they used. So even though this was not a confirmed donor greeblie, it could have been an internal greeblie, or simply an assembly jig.

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See how perfectly it answers the call to space the cannons?
 
Was the Bandai 1/48 155mm M12 Motor Carriage a donor for the Y-Wing? It came out in 1974. ILM used a lot of Bandai stuff in that scale. (i.e., Kubelwagen. Schwimmwagen. Nashorn. King Tiger. Tiger I. Jagdtiger. Jagdpanther. Hetzer. Panzerkampfwagen VI. Ausf.H. Panther G. Elefant.)

And... maybe not, but sprue C sure looks useful, especially parts #C28 and C29:
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Don't those pieces look suspiciously close to the underside leading edge of the fuselage pieces that have the Aurora Sealab vents in them?

Here they are next to a 3D-printed part of the same piece, modeled by Gus in Toronto; notice the overall width and height similarities:
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And here's the flip view, comparing the top leading edges:
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So it may not be a confirmed donor, but I tinkered with it and was very satisfied with an "original" replacement piece donor that fit the bill with only minor modifications:
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Here it is in rough before finally evenly angling the primary leading edge...

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Here, placed loosely on an armature, not glued down and not in final position. Works!

(I know the original doesn't have the rigid raised spine piece running vertically along the top, but I thought it looked kind of cool so left it on there.)
 

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Not recommended...
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But it does work. If you need to elevate your Y-Wing while attaching some rear-ventral disk greeblies, two of the heavy-duty blue cloth rolls hold it perfectly above the surface of the workstation by about 1cm from the front guns, and the nacelle fronts snuggle down into the tubes just enough to hold securely... but please don't jiggle the table while its drying!
 
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