Red Dawn (2012)
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Contec
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Mola Rob
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Exactly.
Kerr Avon
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No one counts Canada! :lol
Ive been watching some 80's stuff on Netflix lately and you just gotta appreciate it for what it is. Time Rider, The Final Countdown, Buck Rogers......all come off as campy tongue in cheek compared to todays standards. But fun to watch none the less. I haven't re-watched Red Dawn since it was in theaters, but im willing to bet it will fall into the same category.
Im really surprised the producers backed off the slightly plausible scenario of China calling in their debt. Saddened more like it. China won this behind the scenes battle without firing a shot.
Im really surprised the producers backed off the slightly plausible scenario of China calling in their debt. Saddened more like it. China won this behind the scenes battle without firing a shot.
Methuselah2011
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You are correct. His opinion was the minority when I saw the film in theaters. In fact only the 'pot smoking hippie types' were the only ones to lambast and try to denigrate the original film so much.
Not saying that the poster is one of THOSE, but I ran into a lot of lefties who felt the same way.I did a stint at Checkpoint Charlie during the year Red Dawn (the Original) was released. Yes, I was an MP at the time. Military reaction to the movie? Wel other than a little outrage that "We" (the armed forces of the US) were depicted as being so 'useless in defending the home nation" , most guys in my unit loved the movie as a 'rah rah' popcorn film. Sure, it was corny and flawed, but some of the themes were very powerful to us.
Anyone (who was NOT a radical left winger) during this time actually feared being taken over by the Soviets. Sure, we knew that we could kick their asses militarily but there was always a doubt in the back of our minds "Could the Reds do something completely unexpected and actually make headway in a land invasion?" It was a dark fantasy of a world we definitely did NOT WANT TO LIVE IN. Was it possible? Not really, but it technically was not IMPOSSIBLE at the time.
I thought there were some powerful messages of patriotism and fighting for your home. Sure I recognized how these messages weren't depicted all that well, but I still think the original film rocked. But then, I really HATED the communists. Anyone who pulled duty near the BERLIN WALL remembers all the memorials and flowers for all the people whom the Communists killed trying to get over the wall. So that might have skewed my view.
Also, being someone who was very FAMILIAR with Soviet/Warsaw Pact vehicles and aircraft, I was VERY IMPRESSED that the film bothered to try to simulate all of the vehicles, weapons, uniforms and aircraft that the Soviets would have used. That took a lot of effort!
Methuselah2011
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Thanks for the explanation. For a minute, it seemed that he was insulting any sort of patriotism. Which would actually itself be offensive. Whether or not the film succeeded is valid grounds for debate, but the original 'vibe' of the post seemed like he was ridiculing viewers for feeling some of the powerful messages of the original film.
ghostryder
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Methuselah2011
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You are so right. The original Red Dawn (1984) poster was so beautiful. This one looks like a WWE wrestling match promo poster....
Lutso
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Totally what I was thinking!
Stormy320
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scary isn't it
Methuselah2011
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Uh, what's scary? The fact that Americans who are used to hunting and gun usage are self reliant (like in the first film)? or that Hollywood may not choose to depict that element of American society at all? :confused
gobler
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I..... eh, nope. Don't want any more of my posts deleted....
Film looks like it could be fun, I mean it has Thor and John Winchester in it...
Sent from somewhere in space & time...
d_jedi1
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Interesting.. if they play it right, it could see a resurgence of interest in the game "Homefront" as it was essentially the same story with North Korea standing in for Russia.
AND it was originally written to be China but, again, altered before release.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homefront_(video_game)
AND it was originally written to be China but, again, altered before release.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homefront_(video_game)
ghostryder
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...and written by the writer of the original Red Dawn.
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