RED ALERT Lost 3 ft TOS Enterprise found????

[publiusr]

I assume "proper team" means Rod, Gary Kerr, the Okudas, or someone in that camp.

I would hope so.

But "out of my hands" and "proper team" might mean lawyers...otherwise I think Rod or someone would have posted photos by now.

I'd like to think he is a good guy here---and no, I don't know him...
--then too...repo men...meter maids...fences...*some* storage locker buyers....all profit off someone else's misery. But that's another topic.

 

[Chrisisall]

I have faith that this will unfold as it should.

 

[publiusr]

Haha. Saw only CessnaDriver in there...

You are famous Cessna....lol

So what is the other model Enterprise around the 1:44 mark in here?

 

[CessnaDriver]

So what is the other model Enterprise around the 1:44 mark in here?

The smaller behind?, that has bothered me, I don't think it's an AMT model, too early I think.
The first model ever of the Enterprise I believe was a simple mock up made from possibly paper/cardboard?
That looks too good to be that. But ??????

 

[publiusr]

Over at the trekbbs (I believe) there was a link to an old advertisement of a model shop of Howard Anderson…and there were tiny photos of the types of work they did…I can’t remember where I saw it.

But one of the pix was of a (likely wooden) Enterprise that was not the three-footer.

Now, my eyes are bad—memory worse (how I didn’t catch the AMT behind the Phase II is beyond me)—but if you can..maybe track that photo down if possible.

There may yet be some “missing links.”

 

[Racer_X]

The black and white photo of two Enterprises at 1:44 is a zoom-in of a photo from a convention (1972, I believe; that's how they are labeled in my files). Sorry, I don't remember where I downloaded these from or who originally provided them.

 

[joberg]

Hmm, but the plaque on the base can be used to orient it.

Indeed! Looking at some B&W pics, it's sometimes difficult to se the plaque

 

[joberg]

I did some extreme color enhancement to try to figure out where the “blue” paint is relative to the “warm gray” or “cream” color. I still can’t figure out which was the original paint, although the missing parts of the decals on the upper saucer suggest the blue was the original color! In other areas blue seems to be slathered on over the warm cream color.

Also note the arrows… there’s a loose rectangle of holo-prism material stuck to the lower saucer, but I think there’s another one stuck to the front of the lower bulge. And note the two rectangles jammed into the impulse engine vents.

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I don't think it's blue. Proly grey and surely difficult to assess without a grey scale

 

[phase pistol]

Sure I just call it blue out of convenience. I did say I exaggerated the colors

 

[joberg]

The smaller behind?, that has bothered me, I don't think it's an AMT model, too early I think.
The first model ever of the Enterprise I believe was a simple mock up made from possibly paper/cardboard?
That looks too good to be that. But ??????

The smaller one is indeed some kind of a cardboard build (maybe from a fan already)
The main big one is somewhat different than the 33" Some details are just not the same; maybe a model maker from the studio?

 

[Captain Dunsel]

The smaller one is indeed some kind of a cardboard build (maybe from a fan already)
The main big one is somewhat different than the 33" Some details are just not the same; maybe a model maker from the studio?

There are Tribbles and a knife from “Mirror, Mirror” in the display case so those pictures are from at least the second season, when the AMT kit was available.

That smaller Enterprise could be the initial prototype described by Herb Solow and Bob Justman as a quick mock-up that was turned out on a lathe and presented to the studio on a string (that flipped upside down)…

 

[CessnaDriver]

There are Tribbles and a knife from “Mirror, Mirror” in the display case so those pictures are from at least the second season, when the AMT kit was available.

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That smaller Enterprise could be the initial prototype described by Herb Solow and Bob Justman as a quick mock-up that was turned out on a lathe and presented to the studio on a string (that flipped upside down)…

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Yes, that is my hope, that is what I was struggling to remember I read once... "a quick mock-up that was turned out on a lathe and presented to the studio on a string (that flipped upside down)… " this would be the only photo of it in that case. Truly the first model of the Enterprise. And its NOT the AMT for sure, unless we got some weird AI image processing going on.



Let the search begin for it! We still have one left behind!!!! Leave no Starship behind! LOL

 

[Captain Dunsel]

They also appear to have one of Leonard Nimoy’s albums (“The Way I Feel”) playing underneath the table…

…yes, these proto-RPF members were jamming to the soothing sounds of Nimoy warbling “If I Had A Hammer”…

 

[Ant1988]

They also appear to have one of Leonard Nimoy’s albums (“The Way I Feel”) playing underneath the table…

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…yes, these proto-RPF members were jamming to the soothing sounds of Nimoy warbling “If I Had A Hammer”…

Haha. Back when everyone thought they could cut a big record.....lol

 

[edge10]

The black and white photo of two Enterprises at 1:44 is a zoom-in of a photo from a convention (1972, I believe; that's how they are labeled in my files). Sorry, I don't remember where I downloaded these from or who originally provided them.

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I found this, most likely 1968 World SciFi Con (BayCon):

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/enterprise-ncc1701-star-trek--825143962985656559/

This as well, but the images aren't loading for me:

Star Trek displays, Baycon

calisphere.org

 

[Captain Dunsel]

I found this, most likely 1968 World SciFi Con (BayCon):

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/enterprise-ncc1701-star-trek--825143962985656559/

Great eye and detective work:

 

[edge10]

Yep, just told my computer to zoom and enhance! A little CSI reference for y'all.

 

[Ron]

The past two weeks I've been monitoring the various Tomy Enterprise listings. You'd think ebay would've recommended this as a "similar listing" and I could've snagged it like a thief in the night but nope. No such luck. Thanks for nothin', ebay. Thanks for nothin'...

 

[Maurice]

Definitely the AMT kit. The shape of the rear nacelle endcaps and the lower saucer (which is not flat, like the 33-incher’s is) clinches it.


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Yeah, that's an AMT kit.

For what it's worth re those photos of the unfinished Star Trek II TV model (it was only called Phase II for a hot second, which was quickly dropped), most of the photos you see with the TV models are from when the RA&A people, Roddenberry, etc., were assessing the models to see if any of them could be used for the movie, which I assume was at Brick Price's facility or Magicam (I forget when the latter got involved). IIRC from my conversations with Richard Taylor, that assessment was before Wise was on the picture.

If the model in question was loaned to RA&A/ASTRA, it would have gone to their facility, not to where the TV models were being constructed.

Also, Roddenberry's letter from Nov. '79 says the model was loaned out "about a year and a half ago" which would put it about spring '78, which would line up with when Abel was on the picture and well after the TV models had been abandoned.

 

[CessnaDriver]

I know studios can be notorious for damaging things loaned or rented to them. Perhaps they broke it, we see the damage today, and some shoddy repairs. And simply didn't want to face the music.