Tan Djarka
Master Member
Good advice :thumbsup
Recasters page on FaceBook
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Good advice :thumbsup
I want to see proof!
There is a member that was banned on Protopia for recasting, crappy
construction, and not delivering the goods. Proptopia (along with many other names) gave a complete novel of there wrong doing's. However, they can still post and sell here!
Whoever started talking trash, needs to take it down! I learned alot from that site, when I was building my Proton pack, ghost trap, and many other Ghostbuster goodies.
There is a member that was banned on Protopia for recasting, crappy
construction, and not delivering the goods. Proptopia (along with many other names) gave a complete novel of there wrong doing's. However, they can still post and sell here!
Whoever started talking trash, needs to take it down! I learned alot from that site, when I was building my Proton pack, ghost trap, and many other Ghostbuster goodies.
Cenobyte
Sr Member
I was an admin on prop topic at the time.
A person had a specific GB prop part for sale at the time that the had hand sculpted and created.
I saw the identical item on eBay by another person.
I massaged the member that I bid on them and will be sending them to him to do a side by side.
Well it got twisted that I was supporting a recaster as an admin by the member and "outed" to the forums.
I tried again to tell the what I was doing (I found the screenshots I posted years ago about this in a private forum stating exactly what I stated) and presented that to the person in the past as they called me out.
I tried once more to send the info, but never heard back.
I have the screenshots of the original from years ago so unfortunately somewhere along the way I was blamed.
I admit after they got rude to me on proptopia, I did get out of hand with my posting against them and got mean, and being an admin at that time was not called for.
I learned from that and since then have never engaged in any flame wars on any sites since. I grew up.
Once it was over, I never used the admin privileges again.
Unfortunately because of my actions, this person to this day is still angry and it came to both of us ignoring each other.
A person had a specific GB prop part for sale at the time that the had hand sculpted and created.
I saw the identical item on eBay by another person.
I massaged the member that I bid on them and will be sending them to him to do a side by side.
Well it got twisted that I was supporting a recaster as an admin by the member and "outed" to the forums.
I tried again to tell the what I was doing (I found the screenshots I posted years ago about this in a private forum stating exactly what I stated) and presented that to the person in the past as they called me out.
I tried once more to send the info, but never heard back.
I have the screenshots of the original from years ago so unfortunately somewhere along the way I was blamed.
I admit after they got rude to me on proptopia, I did get out of hand with my posting against them and got mean, and being an admin at that time was not called for.
I learned from that and since then have never engaged in any flame wars on any sites since. I grew up.
Once it was over, I never used the admin privileges again.
Unfortunately because of my actions, this person to this day is still angry and it came to both of us ignoring each other.
Tan Djarka
Master Member
It doesn't matter. Whatever you think, just assume you're wrong, and get on with your life:cry
Utinni
Sr Member
*reposted from FB*
Quick question to either Steven M. or the Admin on the FB page that proclaimed Proptopia protects recasters... in the case of Steven M., are you mad at GBCam, who was going to be reselling your product for you, before you decided to cancel the agreement due to the several personal issues GBCam had going on, including losing an unborn child and had a little more on his plate to worry about than resin trinkets- OR are you mad at the Ebay recaster "linkproductions" aka Jeremy Moore and his brother- who is WELL known to Proptopia for ending up being a recaster and TOTAL CLOWNSHOE and was banned several times? So far the argument over GBCam is not about recasting, correct? And was repeatedly requested by several Mods to take it off the board and private since it was not a board issue and was an agreement between the both of you. So that issue shouldn't even be here to begin with. Cenobyte purchased a set of wings off of ebay to prove a direct link to the recaster (Jeremy Moore), not to help him financially but to trap him. So again, from my VERY first post from 23 hours ago... what proof on RECASTING does the original poster have????
Quick question to either Steven M. or the Admin on the FB page that proclaimed Proptopia protects recasters... in the case of Steven M., are you mad at GBCam, who was going to be reselling your product for you, before you decided to cancel the agreement due to the several personal issues GBCam had going on, including losing an unborn child and had a little more on his plate to worry about than resin trinkets- OR are you mad at the Ebay recaster "linkproductions" aka Jeremy Moore and his brother- who is WELL known to Proptopia for ending up being a recaster and TOTAL CLOWNSHOE and was banned several times? So far the argument over GBCam is not about recasting, correct? And was repeatedly requested by several Mods to take it off the board and private since it was not a board issue and was an agreement between the both of you. So that issue shouldn't even be here to begin with. Cenobyte purchased a set of wings off of ebay to prove a direct link to the recaster (Jeremy Moore), not to help him financially but to trap him. So again, from my VERY first post from 23 hours ago... what proof on RECASTING does the original poster have????
TazMan2000
Master Member
Utinni
Sr Member
??? what is that supposed to mean exactly? Who is a sockpuppet?
Originally Posted by Whovian
So... what do we think of recasting?:lol
It doesn't matter. Whatever you think, just assume you're wrong, and get on with your life:cry
I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.
metal wood
Well-Known Member
this whole tread cracked me up, yeah im new, yeah i dont have much experience blah blah blah, but recasting is something i understand all to well; i am a painter by trade and have seen some of my work going on ebay, it burns, sure some of these works were "reproductions" of famous works by legendary artist but i didnt photocopy something and sell it i spent months and months researching specific colors and types and styles of brushes to paint one myself.... all been said before, probably will be said again, and again... recasting bad, this thread funny (and mildly disturbing, i am now afraid of my socks) but there will always be people looking to cut corners and in general acting out in "poopie" ways just a sad fact.
also LIKED the FB sight
also LIKED the FB sight
Sock puppet? Really?
Unless you have proof, or was a member of Proptopia, at the time
In question, just let your thoughts go!
It was a mess as to what went down, but there was no official "come buy
your recast parts here!"
I started out at Proptipia, about 6 years ago, and that was one of the first
sites to track, record, and ban recasters. It mainly focused around the Ghostbuster
props, but others were brought up as well
Unless you have proof, or was a member of Proptopia, at the time
In question, just let your thoughts go!
It was a mess as to what went down, but there was no official "come buy
your recast parts here!"
I started out at Proptipia, about 6 years ago, and that was one of the first
sites to track, record, and ban recasters. It mainly focused around the Ghostbuster
props, but others were brought up as well
I don't want to bring any more drama to this thread, when it should be staying on that Facebook post. But honestly. The claims made by SLK on the Facebook page are hilarious, and him posting them are a direct contradiction to the goal of that Facebook page. All claims are to be backed up by facts aren't they? You can't just say.. Where do recasters hang out? Probably Proptopia.
SLK was banned from Proptopia. That's why he harbors negative feelings toward the site... now... 6 years later. He has no idea what goes on at Proptopia because he was banned. All he cares about is recasting, so he probably assumes recasting is what goes on there. Pretty great logic if you ask me. In reality, Proptopia has been dead for the last 3-4 years.... but obviously it still holds powerful emotion for the people that called it home.
This is what happened to SLK in regard to Proptopia:
He had a problem with a personal dealing with someone that just happened to be a member of the site (an agreement that wasn't even done on the site, and was not related to recasting at all). I helped SLK to get in touch with the guy and gave him advice on how to proceed with fixing the problem with the other member. The route taken by SLK was very tactless (basically SLK yelling at the other member in public to give him his stuff back), and it ended up being locked by a moderator. SLK contacted that moderator and told him to mind his own business. As I was also a moderator at Proptopia, I was now having to deal with multiple PMs from SLK (as well as the guy he was having problems with), as were the other moderators on the site. SLK and the individual he was having problems with had taken up the issue in private (which is what we told him to do), and in fact they were communicating off of Proptopia all together eventually. That however didn't stop SLK from repeatadly harassing the moderator(s) for locking the thread. He claimed we weren't helping him at all, when in fact we/I had been more than helpful throughout the whole process. He kept saying we were ignoring the "facts", when in fact no one was disputing them. Only telling him to handle it on his own (no one as Proptopia was involved with his deal). Eventually it got to SLK sending out letters from his lawyer over $50 worth of prop parts. Around that same time, we decided he wasn't a good fit for Proptopia (a builders oriented community). We maintained the attitude of.. this stuff was started in private (not even privately on Proptopia)... it will be handled privately. Proptopia had absolutely nothing to do with any of it, but were forced to expend our resources at the time to offer SLK with under appreciated help for his situation.
I ran into SLK at Dragon*Con a few years ago. He talked my ear off for half an hour about various recasters, and how much he hated everyone at Proptopia. He basically listed every moderator and admin by name, and took a personal shot at me for not 'helping' him enough. I don't think he understood or knew that I was the one on Proptopia that eventually banned him, despite being the one that was helping him the most.
M. Night Shyamalan-ed.
SLK was banned from Proptopia. That's why he harbors negative feelings toward the site... now... 6 years later. He has no idea what goes on at Proptopia because he was banned. All he cares about is recasting, so he probably assumes recasting is what goes on there. Pretty great logic if you ask me. In reality, Proptopia has been dead for the last 3-4 years.... but obviously it still holds powerful emotion for the people that called it home.
This is what happened to SLK in regard to Proptopia:
He had a problem with a personal dealing with someone that just happened to be a member of the site (an agreement that wasn't even done on the site, and was not related to recasting at all). I helped SLK to get in touch with the guy and gave him advice on how to proceed with fixing the problem with the other member. The route taken by SLK was very tactless (basically SLK yelling at the other member in public to give him his stuff back), and it ended up being locked by a moderator. SLK contacted that moderator and told him to mind his own business. As I was also a moderator at Proptopia, I was now having to deal with multiple PMs from SLK (as well as the guy he was having problems with), as were the other moderators on the site. SLK and the individual he was having problems with had taken up the issue in private (which is what we told him to do), and in fact they were communicating off of Proptopia all together eventually. That however didn't stop SLK from repeatadly harassing the moderator(s) for locking the thread. He claimed we weren't helping him at all, when in fact we/I had been more than helpful throughout the whole process. He kept saying we were ignoring the "facts", when in fact no one was disputing them. Only telling him to handle it on his own (no one as Proptopia was involved with his deal). Eventually it got to SLK sending out letters from his lawyer over $50 worth of prop parts. Around that same time, we decided he wasn't a good fit for Proptopia (a builders oriented community). We maintained the attitude of.. this stuff was started in private (not even privately on Proptopia)... it will be handled privately. Proptopia had absolutely nothing to do with any of it, but were forced to expend our resources at the time to offer SLK with under appreciated help for his situation.
I ran into SLK at Dragon*Con a few years ago. He talked my ear off for half an hour about various recasters, and how much he hated everyone at Proptopia. He basically listed every moderator and admin by name, and took a personal shot at me for not 'helping' him enough. I don't think he understood or knew that I was the one on Proptopia that eventually banned him, despite being the one that was helping him the most.
M. Night Shyamalan-ed.
amg
Active Member
...and for the naive, newbies of the prop-build world. We cannot take it seriously. Trust me, there's probably something far more important to worry about. There's always going to be some schlep selling something they shouldn't and there's often a mob of other folks behind them who think they're right.
Watch, ask questions and learn my friends, but keep your thoughts to yourself. There's a lot of bullies out there. It is just not worth the hassle.
Watch, ask questions and learn my friends, but keep your thoughts to yourself. There's a lot of bullies out there. It is just not worth the hassle.
Bigdaddy
Master Member
#3 here, I'd like to know as well, but I'll continue to ask around the RPF before I make a purchase.
Utinni
Sr Member
Well... it seems the Admin of that page is not willing back up their own statements and attempting to edit history!
They deleted my post from last night! Along with Sean B. (owner of Proptopia) posts.
Steve M asked " And Jeff, how are you involved? It's just unfortunate. There are those who can do work like I can and there are always people there to try and exploit us. I don't see much point in bringing up more. I was here to recount. Not split hairs."
And I replied along the lines with - I'm involved because Sean B (owner of Proptopia) is a good friend of mine and I'm one of the people that helped start Proptopia. And when someone craps on your yard for no justification or valid reason, you come to help your friend. The original poster, who ever that is hiding behind the FB page name, stated Proptopia supports recasters without any actual proof. And that they owed the members a real response or apology.
The whole MO of that board states " Remember, theory is no substitute for fact. Absurd, irrelevant, and baseless comments will be removed."
Well... where's the FACTS???? They went an entire day without giving any type of reply, not even to Sean B., just that "they didn't have the time".
And I see now the Admin deleted the message Sean posted to them asking to to talk and them blowing him off...
And now, "Sorry but further comments will be deleted."
So... the FB Admin states Proptopia supports recasters, we ask for facts, and get the run around with Steven M. and then basically go away... :unsure
Considering the main core of Proptopia is made up of several people that are IN the movie industry or very closely connected to REAL studios, owner of a LICENSED replica prop company, artists that have worked on studio projects, majority do all their own building, and several pieces of their own work have been recast..... why on earth would anyone even claim our board would accept and support recasting... unless they have a personal grudge.
That FB board is nothing more than a self serving board and does NOT function under it's own rules! I wouldn't trust it's Admin or any of it's posts until they come out and prove their own claims!
- Jeff
They deleted my post from last night! Along with Sean B. (owner of Proptopia) posts.
Steve M asked " And Jeff, how are you involved? It's just unfortunate. There are those who can do work like I can and there are always people there to try and exploit us. I don't see much point in bringing up more. I was here to recount. Not split hairs."
And I replied along the lines with - I'm involved because Sean B (owner of Proptopia) is a good friend of mine and I'm one of the people that helped start Proptopia. And when someone craps on your yard for no justification or valid reason, you come to help your friend. The original poster, who ever that is hiding behind the FB page name, stated Proptopia supports recasters without any actual proof. And that they owed the members a real response or apology.
The whole MO of that board states " Remember, theory is no substitute for fact. Absurd, irrelevant, and baseless comments will be removed."
Well... where's the FACTS???? They went an entire day without giving any type of reply, not even to Sean B., just that "they didn't have the time".
And I see now the Admin deleted the message Sean posted to them asking to to talk and them blowing him off...
And now, "Sorry but further comments will be deleted."
So... the FB Admin states Proptopia supports recasters, we ask for facts, and get the run around with Steven M. and then basically go away... :unsure
Considering the main core of Proptopia is made up of several people that are IN the movie industry or very closely connected to REAL studios, owner of a LICENSED replica prop company, artists that have worked on studio projects, majority do all their own building, and several pieces of their own work have been recast..... why on earth would anyone even claim our board would accept and support recasting... unless they have a personal grudge.
That FB board is nothing more than a self serving board and does NOT function under it's own rules! I wouldn't trust it's Admin or any of it's posts until they come out and prove their own claims!
- Jeff
Utinni
Sr Member
Oh and just in case they decide to edit their board again, I just posted asking why they deleted my post asking AGAIN for proof of their statement and asked why they deleted all of Sean's posts as well as banned him from posting??? I'm sure I'll be banned as well and the thread will magically get swept under the rug and deleted. Very interesting and wonder what their original motive was... :confused :confused :confused
I don't know about you guys, but I would not to support such a 1-sided page with self serving motives behind it, that runs opposite of it's own posted guidelines.
I don't know about you guys, but I would not to support such a 1-sided page with self serving motives behind it, that runs opposite of it's own posted guidelines.
Well I'm going to get rid of that little "friend"!
