Recast alert: First Class Magneto Shaw helmet -Guess who is back

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  1. RacerMachX

    RacerMachX Well-Known Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Looks like I'm getting recasted.

    X-Men First class Sebastian Shaw Magneto Helmet Cosplay Fan Made Costume | eBay
    From on the listing,
    "Support our economy....This helmet is 100% handmade right here in the U.S.A.
    Colors: Carbon mist and Metallic silver
    The fine print:

    Due to the handmade nature of this helmet there will be slight variations in each helmet making each unique and one of a kind."

    I think that shows intent to make more than one.
    Its my sculpt but not my casting/ finished work.
    Too many defects in the casting.

    My build
    http://www.therpf.com/f9/magneto-helmet-x-men-first-class-wip-end-game-vs-shaw-build-114572/


     
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  2. Funky

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    Re: Recast alert: First Class Magneto Shaw helmet

    Did you keep a list of everyone you sold one to?
     
  3. Finhead

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    Re: Recast alert: First Class Magneto Shaw helmet

    Holy crap that was fast, sucks. But yeah go through your list of people you sold to, should always keep a list.
     
  4. Chris27989

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    sorry to hear that mate..
    if you look at the guys other items there seems to be a picture of him!
     
  5. RacerMachX

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    I have an idea of who it is.
    The sad thing is that he is a rpf member.
    I'm digging around and gather reference as such.
    I not sure if i should contact and present it to the mods
    or just post the info and let people look into it.
     
  6. Wes R

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    Anymore it seems like you have to keep a list of people you sold to. I'd let the mods know just so they can look into it or at least be aware of it.
     
  7. rollerboi

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    Re: Recast alert: First Class Magneto Shaw helmet

    Present to the mods, to avoid undue drama. Followup with resolution, if any.
    Sorry to hear! :(
     
  8. Alan Castillo

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    Agreed. Present to the mods, and also update this thread.

    Sorry to say, but I am a firm believer of 'name and shame'. All members should know exactly who not to deal with.

    Things like this suck :thumbsdown

    One thing though. Don't post or say anything firm unless you have concrete evidence.
     
  9. RacerMachX

    RacerMachX Well-Known Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I think this is the part from the listing that **** me off the most.

    "Support our economy....This helmet is 100% handmade right here in the U.S.A. "


    They should add:

    "Because the work was stolen from another hard working American."

    It just irritates me that this person is hiding behind a waving American flag to sell his recast.



     
  10. PepMaster

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    Re: Recast alert: First Class Magneto Shaw helmet

    I see he has also sold Mortal Kombat 9 Masks and some of the photos look familiar. I know I've seen the Noob Saibot photos on here from one of the members but can't remember who. And I do believe the width of the Sub Zero mask as stated in the listing has the same width as one of Quakevirus' masks.
     
  11. superDrool

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    Re: Recast alert: First Class Magneto Shaw helmet

    I sent him this ebay message as I will NOT tolerate this from scammers:


    It seems I recognize this helmet as an existing helmet originally made and casted by well known member of the RPF. It also seems he knows his own work and this is one of the runs of his casting. I see a dilema here. I believe you have some explaining to do elsewhere, i.e. the RPF forums. I am also a member of the RPF, and uncover scams almost weekly on ebay, by no-so honest sellers. Just informing you that your item and actions here are being watched very carefully.

    Very respectfully,
    superDrool


    Others know from another forum, I do this when a fraud seller is found on ebay.
     
  12. RacerMachX

    RacerMachX Well-Known Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Re: Recast alert: First Class Magneto Shaw helmet

    I want to thank everyone for their support.
    It is very much appreciated!

    Here are some info I've found.

    This is a pic from his other listing of Noob Saibot mask.
    View attachment 73078

    This is a pic from a rpf member that:

    1, bought a first class helmet kit from me. (raw and untrimmed)
    2, lives in Orlando, fl ( same as the seller)
    3, posted about and made a Noob Saibot mask

    View attachment 73080

    Here are some pics where i have circled some similarity
    between the ebay pic and the member's pic.
    View attachment 73077 View attachment 73079
     
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  13. Alan Castillo

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    Re: Recast alert: First Class Magneto Shaw helmet

    Ouch....
     
  14. slimesquare

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    Re: Recast alert: First Class Magneto Shaw helmet

    :rolleyes when are people gonna learn?? Like no one from The Rpf ever goes on ebay
     
  15. Finhead

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    Re: Recast alert: First Class Magneto Shaw helmet

    Looks like proof enough to me, just MO but I'd out em so people know.
     
  16. Wes R

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    For sure let Art and them know so they can investigate.
     
  17. Alan Castillo

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    Re: Recast alert: First Class Magneto Shaw helmet

    Don't want to seal this 110%, but that Noob Saibot helmet was a scratch-build project. The possibilities of those same 'imperfections' showing up elsewhere on another helmet are practically zero.
     
  18. Alan Castillo

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    Re: Recast alert: First Class Magneto Shaw helmet

    I agree.
     
  19. PepMaster

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    Re: Recast alert: First Class Magneto Shaw helmet

    I know I recognize the Noob Saibot mask as being the same one made by a member here on the RPF and I will bet they are one and the same person. I just don't know who the user is atm. But do a search for Noob Saibot mask on here and you'll find the suspect. I'm starting to wish I never made those pepakura files. Only person I absolutely trust on here with my files is Quakevirus.
    EDIT: Found the Noob Saibot Mask owner I believe. Not sure though if they are one and the same person though as the eBay seller.
    http://www.therpf.com/f24/noob-saibot-costume-my-son-mortal-kombat-9-a-127193/
     
  20. Alan Castillo

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    Re: Recast alert: First Class Magneto Shaw helmet

    Same imperfections ? Still not 110% sure on this one.
     
  21. PepMaster

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    Re: Recast alert: First Class Magneto Shaw helmet

    I see the same dents and dings in both masks unless my eyes are decieving me, but TGI Rookie made a mold of his mask and it could just be someone got a mask from him, molded it, is now making castings from it and it looks alike. But I could be wrong.
     
  22. superDrool

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    Re: Recast alert: First Class Magneto Shaw helmet

    Here's the full response from my message:

    "Hello,

    I appreciate your comments and concerns regarding this helmet but if you look closely NO WHERE in this listing do I state that I personally sculpted this helmet. Also, I have not posted this helmet for sale on the RPF. I do not know that you are trying to achieve by stating that my actions are being closely watched but I am a major fan of all the artists and sculptors on Ebay and RPF and have personally sculpted and sold other items on Ebay. To my knowledge I am within my rights to re-sell and reproduce a product like everyone else does on Ebay. This is in no way a scam as the helmet is not an official Marvel replica and therefore not copyrighted so I do not know where you are coming from in regards to your scam and honesty comment. As a courtesy I will only sell this particular helmet for the time being but in the future I plan on offering this helmet and other models in various colors. If you do not have any legal concerns to discuss I would appreciate if you would not contact me further regarding this helmet."



    Legally he is in the right. Morally though...totally in the wrong. He seems to have skirted around the fact that he knows it's a recast and has every right to resell them as he see's fit. Only Marvel can have legal action, if they wanted. But that means possibly taking all the other sellers down with him.
     
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  23. RacerMachX

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    Re: Recast alert: First Class Magneto Shaw helmet

    Please, no names yet.

    What caught my eye with the masks,
    was the same 4-5 wrinkles marked in the circles.
    All the other dents and dings are similar but not distinct
    enough features.

    I am just presenting evidence so far. I am not accusing anyone.
    I just need more pairs of eyes to check my info.
     
  24. tubachris85x

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    Re: Recast alert: First Class Magneto Shaw helmet

    The mask from the ebay link compared to the one of the RPF member are nearly identical. The thing is that there are a few details between them that are found, which leads me to think that it may very well be the same person. The one he built has 3 small "scratches" on the right side (looking at it from the front) on the inset portion, which is slightly visible in the same exact pattern on the mask from the ebay photos. The most obvious difference though is the screen mesh used. The RPF one has vertical mesh where the ebay one has diagonal. However, thats not to say that the ebay mask is not a casting of it. There is also surface details which are present in both, however, the last pic with the person wearing the mask looks photoshopped to me
     
  25. Finhead

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  26. RacerMachX

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    Re: Recast alert: First Class Magneto Shaw helmet

    Little more info from Ebay,

    The box below contains the User IDs that this member has used on eBay. [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    User ID
    Effective Date
    End Date

    djcosplay
    Sep-30-11
    Present

    tgirookie
    Jun-15-04
    Sep-30-11

    I'm sorry,
    But i think that settles it for me.

    The RPF member that bought the helmet kit from me is
    tgirookie
    alias from paypal:

    [personal information removed]

    His twitter acct
    DAN The Rookie (@tgirookie) on Twitter
    (posted by himself in RPF under user, about me)
    which also has a link for his mortal kombat mask on ebay
    under djcosplay.

    He also has a youtube channel, just search for
    tgirookie
     
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  27. Alan Castillo

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    Re: Recast alert: First Class Magneto Shaw helmet

    You have to establish 2 things :

    1) Be 100% sure / prove that the helmet on sale has been recast from your original.

    2) Be 100% sure that the seller on eBay is the same as a member here. Those imperfections on the mask certainly warrant further analysis.



    As for the response posted above that was received from the seller, that is a load of tosh that holds no water on this board and is a clear-cut case for instant banning if he is a member here. Geesh, he sounds like a cut-and-paste of videobob - "No rights, so I can recast what I want" yada yada yada ... poof .. banned.

    In the interim, I can see no reason why you should not present the mods with the info you have so far / this thread.
     
  28. Alan Castillo

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    Well, I think you have established that the seller on eBay is a member here.
     
  29. epilepticsquirl

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    Re: Recast alert: First Class Magneto Shaw helmet

    There's a phone number on facebook...
    [personal information removed]

    You should ask em if it's allright to copy their jewelry and sell it too.
     
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  30. PepMaster

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    I see I was correct in my assumption that it was TGIRookie.
     
  31. Alan Castillo

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    Re: Recast alert: First Class Magneto Shaw helmet

    He's looking at this thread at this very moment, so maybe he'll chime in.
     
  32. RacerMachX

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  33. Alan Castillo

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    Re: Recast alert: First Class Magneto Shaw helmet

    "Due to the handmade nature of this helmet there will be slight variations in each helmet making each unique and one of a kind."

    "in the future I plan on offering this helmet and other models in various colors."

    "To my knowledge I am within my rights to re-sell and reproduce a product like everyone else does on Ebay."

    Re-sell, sure.

    Reproduce ?

    Not here.

    Ta Ta.
     
  34. RacerMachX

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    Well,
    Looks like someone filed a paypal complaint against me
    for releasing their mailing information.
    So i will edit my posting as such, later on today.:angel

    For someone who is so concerned about their privacy,
    They sure put a lot of info about themself on the web.
    Like their youtube channel with a car forsale, a movie about the people in their life, complete with scrolling name credits...

    I have saved all the videos and the twitter pages for proof to the mod when they request it.
     
  35. GuntahKela

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    Re: Recast alert: First Class Magneto Shaw helmet

    Recasters aren't only no-talent-hacks, but "slow" people, too.
     
  36. Jonny B

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    No doubt what so ever. Here is the eBay listed picture side by side with the RPF members picture. Same build.

    [​IMG]

    I am NOT saying this is the person, this prop may be a recast from tgirookie's as well. If I had to goto Court, my profesional oppinion would be it's the same, looking at these pictures.
     
  37. PepMaster

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    RMX already found out that TGIRookie and the eBay seller djcosplay are one and the same person. But thanks for pointing out the details for people.
     
  38. Alan Castillo

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    Mods are aware of this matter. No worries.
     
  39. Jonny B

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    Awe... so no angry mob linching tonight? What the Heck am I going to do with 12 pitchforks and 25 torches now?:cry
     
  40. Alan Castillo

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    It's halloween !!!!! Use your imagination :lol Got a pesky neighbour ? A pain-in-the-neck mother-in-law ? The choice is yours :lol
     
  41. Jonny B

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    HAHAHA! :lol

    Naaa, I got this Terra Nova pistol to finish up....and Battle Droid parts to make...and some helmets...ugh. I better get back out to the shop.
     
  42. RacerMachX

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    Me, I'm just going to focus on passing out candies to the kids.

    Because , i just can't understand why.

    Based on his own magneto helmet buildup,
    he should understand the amount of work, time, effort and $ that goes into something like this.
    The fact that he feels that he has a right to recast someone else s work
    is just totally confusing to me.
     
  43. Wes R

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    Hopefully the ban'll hit soon.
     
  44. superDrool

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    This is what made me angry. He not only threw out the legal rights card, but misled with words to take full credit for the helmet. And once caught red-handed let me know he didn't make the helmet, but has the right to recast it. Forshame. :thumbsdown
     
  45. dbalschi

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    Last Activity: Today 11:00 PM
    Current Activity: Searching Forums

    Don't see him coming here though
     
  46. Kerr Avon

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    How many did you ship to Florida? That should narrow it down there.
     
  47. RacerMachX

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    Well ,
    it looks like Tgirookie is going around trying to cover his tracks.
    His Noob Saibot thread has a " please delete" heading
    Noob Saibot Costume for my son. Mortal Kombat 9
    that's ok , because I've saved a copy of it.
    (because, i sure I'm not the first and won't be the last to be recast by him
    and I'll be damned if i let someone else be stolen by him)

    Looks like he is asking a " Please delete" on every thread he ever started.

    I guess since he is lurking around here, i would like a explanation.

    To Tgirookie,
    You had so many people here helping you and encouraging you about you work, your progress.
    But you decided to steal from the very groups of folks that can and did help you.

    The question is, why?
     
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  48. Amish Trooper

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    dusting off the pitchfork and gathering up the mob..:)
     
  49. Cenobyte

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    Hey bro,

    You need to NOT publicly post your "tells" (meaning your comparisons) as the person can then zero in on them and fix/change them as they will know what busted them.

    I think it sucks, especially when a member here does it specifically knowing the stance we take on these things.

    Did mot notice, but if you have named them I did not see and would like to know so I can personally blacklist them. Also to warn others.
     
  50. Sundowner

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    Re: Recast alert: First Class Magneto Shaw helmet

    It's not like recasting isn't discussed daily on the forums. So when a RPF member recasts its just sad because more than likely they know it's wrong and do it any way
     

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