Re-visiting my build for Vash's longcolt, fixing bad casts and new pictures !

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  1. Weaselhammer

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    I finally started a new build today, after pouring over pictures, screencaps, and everything I could find here on the forum, I started work on Vash the Stampede's longcolt .45 from Trigun. The trigger and hammer will be static, as I'm just not quite confident enough to tackle a working trigger assembly yet. It does however open like the original for reloading ! I plan on attempting to make a grip from wood, then making a simple mold of it and casting a rubber grip for it, I hope it works out like I imagine. I'll keep updating this thread as I make progress !

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  2. Sandman0077

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    Great start! I have the original poseidon kit but haven't tackled it yet. Subscribed!
     
  3. Sundowner

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 build in progress !

    looking good! Keep it up!
     
  4. Weaselhammer

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 build in progress !

    Congrats on that find! any decent kits seem to be hard to come by and with all the recasts out there(and I've seen some really bad ones), I decided to build my own from scratch. Thanks for the comment !
     
  5. Sandman0077

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    Well even the original kit isn't 100% accurate so its always nice to see a scratchbuild.
     
  6. Weaselhammer

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 build in progress !

    I decided today to scrap this build and move on to version 2.0. I really want to have a working trigger/ hammer assembly and better detail in this gun, so I am starting over with a different plan. I also ordered some stuff from Smooth-on so I can make molds of the parts as I go along and cast them in urethane plastic. I'm really excited about this build and can't wait until I have stuff to show !
     
  7. Sandman0077

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    Sounds good!
     
  8. Weaselhammer

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 build in progress !

    While pouring through google image searches looking for reference pics, I stumbled upon several of your posts on other threads here on the forum, lol. Seems you've been on top of this for a while !
     
  9. Sandman0077

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    Well Trigun was my first anime so I've been obsessed for awhile haha. I want to make a metal version you can break down like the real thing, but I don't have the time to model it up right now. So I creep on other peoples builds lol. I have a whole folder of info on my computer if you need any.
     
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  10. Thoth

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 build in progress !

    That is sharp! Well done!
     
  11. Weaselhammer

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 build in progress !

    I would love to get my hands on anything like drawings or a good side view. I also need a view from the top and rear of the gun. Thanks for the help !
     
  12. Sandman0077

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 build in progress !

    PM sent
     
  13. Weaselhammer

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 build in progress !

    So I have jumped head first into my first foray in mold making and have cast part of the frame along with the trigger and hammer. I made the prototype out of MDF, sanded it smooth, then coated it in shellac. I then made silicone molds so I can build this thing in urethane resin and be able to make copies. I seriously underestimated how much Mold Star I needed, :facepalm so I will be making another trip thursday to my Smooth-On distributor for more so I can make molds of the barrel parts and such.

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  14. Sandman0077

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 build in progress !

    :thumbsup

    Great job so far. Wood is always a great prototyping material IMO. Keep it up!
     
  15. loveyuri

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 build in progress !

    Nice. i'm Obsessed with this anime too. Loved it. I been looking around for the trigun kit but this looks nice. Can't wait until you finish.

    (SandMan0077, Are you still working on the cross punisher?)
     
  16. Sandman0077

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 build in progress !

    That project is on hold for the moment. I had to move from my house into a small apartment with very little room for large projects.:cry
     
  17. loveyuri

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    aww :( I really wanted to see the project completed.
    Would be pretty cool if it was a metal version haha(i think it was in your fourm(first page?) that there was a metal/working version of the cross punisher).
     
  18. Sandman0077

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 build in progress !

    Yes there was only one metal one made in Japan.
     
  19. Weaselhammer

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 build in progress !

    SO here is an update on my progress so far ! :)
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  20. FakeBritishAccent

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 build in progress !

    Nice work, dude! I've never watched Trigun, but I've always loved Vash's gun. Also, it's great that you've found a way to make the hammer and trigger functional! Good luck with the rest of the build!
     
  21. Weaselhammer

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 build in progress !

    I made a prototype frame from foamboard to work on the trigger assembly, getting that right was a pain. The next tough part will be the spring loaded latch.
     
  22. Weaselhammer

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 build in progress !

    Not much of an exciting update, but I did drill out the trigger, hammer, and the frame for the metal pins. I also hollowed out a little more for the spring and I'm working on getting the movement nice and smooth with the 2 halves together. I included my first version I cut out up top to show how bad I started out. I have no idea what I was thinking rushing into the project half *****'d :facepalm but I'm glad I started over with a better plan this time . I also started on the top rail and latching piece tonight. On the bottom left is the prototype I made from MDF, which I molded and made a new one from urethane resin.

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  23. Sporkey

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 build in progress !

    This is coming along great. I really can't wait to see it all finished!
     
  24. Weaselhammer

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 build in progress !

    Not feeling well tonight :sick , but I did get more done with the sight rail/ latch system. I used some styrene and Sintra . I hope to get alot done Thursday, but I have to drive 45 minutes away to get more Mold Star on my day off. :cry View attachment 83480
    And another mockup of my current progress, kinda sorta looks like a gun eh?
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  25. loveyuri

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 build in progress !

    Looking nice.
     
  26. Valdez

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 build in progress !

    Thats looking very good. Going to have to pull my scratch build out of the box now. :lol
     
  27. Steamtech

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 build in progress !

    That's coming along beautifully so far! I'm really impressed with the trigger/hammer assembly you made!

    Trigun wasn't my first anime but I've always been a big fan of it, Vash is just such a great goofy fun character ;)
     
  28. Weaselhammer

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 scratchbuild from Trigun!

    Thanks for all the feedback ! I'm still not feeling well, but I did get some work done on the cylinder tonight, I used some brass tubing and Apoxiesculpt to make it and I have another piece of brass tubing that fits perfectly inside , which will be perfect to make the bullet casings. I have some rough days ahead at work so I don't know how much I'll get done but hopefully monday I'll be able to mold the front half of the gun.
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  29. Weaselhammer

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 scratchbuild from Trigun !

    MORE PROGRESS !!! THANKS TO CAFFEINE !!! So tonight I assembled the prototype barrel assembly somewhat and drilled out for the cylinder. I cut and glued in the pivot and the pins for the trigger and hammer, which works smoothly! I'm also really happy with the heat sinks. Here are some pics !

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  30. Sandman0077

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 scratchbuild from Trigun !

    This is looking great!
     
  31. Weaselhammer

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 scratchbuild from Trigun !

    Thanks ! I can't wait to get more done !
     
  32. loveyuri

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 scratchbuild from Trigun !

    Nice. Hope you get well
     
  33. Weaselhammer

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 scratchbuild from Trigun !

    Still working on this alot, I went back and made some improvements to the main hinge, and finished fabrication of the latch, I still need to find a torsion spring for the latch return though. Right now I'm making the grip which I will cast in 2 halves with urethane resin. After that, the only thing left to make is the trigger guard, then just fit and finish type stuff. I will be assembling with more accurate screws, etc. once it's painted.

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  34. Weaselhammer

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 scratchbuild from Trigun !

    Making the grip took alot more time to do than I planned, but I'm not on any kind of deadline so that's ok, I just enjoy the problem solving and building. I made the grip out of multiple layers of 1/4" MDF and shaped it with files, sanding sponges, and my dremel.
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    I put what I have done together after a quick shot of primer to show the flaws better
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    Next is the trigger guard and front sight, tell me what you think !
     
  35. terryr

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 scratchbuild from Trigun !

    Nice. Looks real.

    The cylinder looks a tad small compared to that photo. Can you wrap it with a layer of plastic?
     
  36. FakeBritishAccent

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 scratchbuild from Trigun !

    Excellent work so far! But I have to agree with terryr...the cylinder looks like it should be a little bigger.
     
  37. Grey

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 scratchbuild from Trigun !

    I wish you wern't using that Vice Alpha kit as reference. :(

    It dosen't look bad but I don't think totally accurate either, and everyone cites that as an example of the gun when building them. Personal preference, really. I've attatched a couple composite images I assembled from the series that show show some good detail. I think the one issue that Vice Alpha got "wrong" were the proportions.

    Regardless, this is the best custom buildup i've seen of this gun.
     
  38. Weaselhammer

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 scratchbuild from Trigun !

    Thanks for all the feedback ! I actually have over 130 reference pics (thanks Sandman) of Vash's gun. I have found that There are subtle differences that pop up just in the anime itself. I guess mine is a mutt of a mixture of anime and other replica versions, and will never be "screen accurate". I totally agree with the cylinder dillemma, which is made to look worse because I sanded too much off of the frame underneath it making the gap worse. I was trying to get it squared up and took off too much material. I was thinking of wrapping a layer of styrene around it like Terryr suggested.
     
  39. Weaselhammer

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 scratchbuild from Trigun !

    Not much to update about other than I fixed the gap around the cylinder by wrapping a piece of styrene around it to increase the circumference a little. I also built a new latch that is stronger, I just didn't trust the other one ! I was going to make the trigger guard tonight, but I got caught up in the funny picture thread on the off topic forum and wasted too much time lol
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  40. Weaselhammer

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 scratchbuild from Trigun !

    Tonight I attached the trigger guard to the frame and re-primered everything. I also fixed the spacing issue between the tubes in the cylinder, thanks to a tip from Fevereon props ! I drilled out the barrel and added the barrel tip as well. The farther I go into this build, the more I see the inaccuracies, but I'm still very proud of this, especially since I've been doing this (prop making) for less than a year.
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  41. Ice086

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 scratchbuild from Trigun !

    Looking great so far!
     
  42. J Scorn

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 scratchbuild from Trigun !

    really like the look, i did a revolver a few years ago, the finish on mine was rubbish, however i focused more on the trigger/hammer movements. to get 'basic ideas' i took apart a toy cap gun and studied the movements and the spings before copying the parts in alloy..
     
  43. madprops

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 scratchbuild from Trigun !

    Man this is amazing! I made the Pepakura version a couple years back and fiberglassed it. I bet when it's finished it will be good and sturdy for some gun spinning.
     
  44. Weaselhammer

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 scratchbuild from Trigun !

    Thanks for the kind comments everyone ! I have painted the gun and am going to take some good pics outside soon, here is one from my work bench.
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  45. Sandman0077

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    Looks sick!
     
  46. loveyuri

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 scratchbuild from Trigun !

    That's nice! Are you gonna make some bullets for it? ^^
     
  47. chinbeard

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 scratchbuild from Trigun !

    Extraordinary build! Keep it up! =D
     
  48. Weaselhammer

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 scratchbuild from Trigun !

    I do plan on making some bullets for it, I have to get some more brass tubing and hopefully will have that done soon !
     
  49. Weaselhammer

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 scratchbuild from Trigun !

    Thanks ! Big fan of yours !
     
  50. FakeBritishAccent

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    Re: Vash's longcolt .45 scratchbuild from Trigun !

    Excellent work! The lines on that sucker are so clean!

    -Jonaas
     

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