Rambo 2 United Cutlery Knife. Accurized

Tom1971

Sr Member
Since it has to go I wanted to show it off first.

This is a United Cutlery Rambo II knife bought way back in the day. I have accurized it by sand blasting away the original paint job and putting a very screen accurate one on. The real Lile knives were also bead blasted before the black finish was applied. I have also gotten rid of the stupid Rambo stamp on the side. Rambo appears no where on the knife or sheath.

I have the most SA dead on sheath ever made by Harry. I had him add an extra length to the pull tab on the retention strap and give it a squared off end. Most SA sheaths and even Lile sheaths miss this. I had him do this on my weapons case knife sheath as well.

The Sharpener is the exact same model as used in the film.

I added a heavy duty leather lanyard that, like his, is longer than the knife with three knots. The first being about an inch from the end, the second an inch above that, and the third a bit farther up. Just like his.

I forgot to take a pic of it but the threads on the buttcap are Not painted just like his.

The only stamp I did not remove is the Taiwan stamp on the back of the hand guard. This identifies it as an original United Cutlery knife. The Master Cutlery are made in China and just have the word CHINA painted on the back of the hand guard.

There are a few other subtle differences between the two but considering how valuable the United Cutlery blades have become I wanted to leave the stamp.

Truthfully both the UC and MC are very good replicas that just need better paint jobs. Each has slight inaccuracies and the UC is made from better metal.


(Ignore the speck on the blade. It blew on and then off.)
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Real Lile Knife for comparison:

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Taiwan stamp. Best pic I could get:
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This is all just for reference:


Below the blasted but unfinished United Cutlery Knife with a first attempt painted Master Cutlery Knife:

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Stock MC knife and sheath which is about the same as the stock UC.

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Stock MC versus Custom UC:

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Cool...but where you can buy the UC?I only know the MC without the sharpener and with the rambo 2 stamp on the leather.
 
Cool...but where you can buy the UC?I only know the MC without the sharpener and with the rambo 2 stamp on the leather.


The UC comes the same way but they are long out of production. The last two new UCs I saw on Ebay went for $250.

Mine shown here is in the junkyard
 
A thanks for the info.Can I buy the sharpener alone on ebay or another shop?I would build it on my MC Rambo 2 knife when possible.I updated my UC Rambo IV sheath,too...you can see it here on the board.

And another question to you: Do you have the Rambo IV Extended cut bluray?

I need a shot from the front of the bow that you can see only in this filmversion.

 
The only stamp I did not remove is the Taiwan stamp on the back of the hand guard.

There are a few other subtle differences between the two but considering how valuable the United Cutlery blades have become I wanted to leave the stamp.

Truthfully both the UC and MC are very good replicas that just need better paint jobs. Each has slight inaccuracies and the UC is made from better metal.

Good job on the knife.

I have the UC First Blood, UC Rambo First Blood part II and UC Rambo III knives along with their original boxes and certificates of authentication and think I need to do something with them.
 
A thanks for the info.Can I buy the sharpener alone on ebay or another shop?I would build it on my MC Rambo 2 knife when possible.I updated my UC Rambo IV sheath,too...you can see it here on the board.

And another question to you: Do you have the Rambo IV Extended cut bluray?

I need a shot from the front of the bow that you can see only in this filmversion.



PM sent on sharpener.

Only have the Rambos on regular DVD
 
Good work there! What did you use for the black finish?

Rich


Good old rattle can.

The real knives are powder coated I believe. The Replicas are painted.

What makes the finish on this one look so good, even though it's just rattle canned, is the sand blasted base. Just like the originals that are bead blasted. Just rough enough to really hold the paint, smooth enough to look real good.
 
The UC Rambo knives are indeed made with much better quality than the more pitiful, cheaper made Chinese Master Cutlery ones. I made the mistake of buying both a MC First Blood knife and a MC Rambo 2 knife. It took no time at all and never even used it, for the FB handle and guard to become loose. And the serrations on the Rambo 2 knife were so unevenly cut that it was almost laughable, not to mention that I could bend the blade on the Rambo 2 knife with my hands.

But despite the UC being a better made knife, it is still made with the same ole cheapo steel as the MC version, which is the 420J2 steel. Both of these knife versions are nothing more than looked-upon wall-hanging display knives. They are totally useless being used the way they are supposed to be used for.

If you want a real knife, spend quite a few more bucks than what you paid for this cheapo knife, and buy a high end handmade one from Ray Matton, Andy Wood, Black Starr Knives, Steve Voorhis, Martin Knives, or even from the actual Lile shop itself! Buying a high end handmade FB and/ or Rambo Missions knife from either one of these people and places, will give you a high end Rambo knife that you can actually use. I paid $850 for my handmade FB knife. But it is a one-only (meaning the maker of it only made one, which is the one I have. That knife maker has over 40 years of experience under his belt). I also paid $575 for my Voorhis Rambo Missions knife version, and both of these handmade beauties are solid, very usable, and can actually be used for their intended purposes, and then some. But a suggestion (and just a friendly suggestion), iffen I were you, I wouldn't spend anymore wasted money on these cheapo mass produced wall-hanger knives. Not unless you are just wanting never-to-be-used props and souvenirs. But just my suggestion.

Right now I have 2 FB knives, one made by Master Cutlery and the other one made by UC. If anyone wants these knives just let me know via a message. You can take them off my hands for really cheap prices. But I warn you... they are Not immaculate by any means. However, with a little touchup and care and some minor re-doing, they can be restored and made to look fantastic.



Since it has to go I wanted to show it off first.

This is a United Cutlery Rambo II knife bought way back in the day. I have accurized it by sand blasting away the original paint job and putting a very screen accurate one on. The real Lile knives were also bead blasted before the black finish was applied. I have also gotten rid of the stupid Rambo stamp on the side. Rambo appears no where on the knife or sheath.

I have the most SA dead on sheath ever made by Harry. I had him add an extra length to the pull tab on the retention strap and give it a squared off end. Most SA sheaths and even Lile sheaths miss this. I had him do this on my weapons case knife sheath as well.

The Sharpener is the exact same model as used in the film.

I added a heavy duty leather lanyard that, like his, is longer than the knife with three knots. The first being about an inch from the end, the second an inch above that, and the third a bit farther up. Just like his.

I forgot to take a pic of it but the threads on the buttcap are Not painted just like his.

The only stamp I did not remove is the Taiwan stamp on the back of the hand guard. This identifies it as an original United Cutlery knife. The Master Cutlery are made in China and just have the word CHINA painted on the back of the hand guard.

There are a few other subtle differences between the two but considering how valuable the United Cutlery blades have become I wanted to leave the stamp.

Truthfully both the UC and MC are very good replicas that just need better paint jobs. Each has slight inaccuracies and the UC is made from better metal.


(Ignore the speck on the blade. It blew on and then off.)
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Real Lile Knife for comparison:

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h136/jameth1971/JimmyLile2aNS_BL.jpg


Taiwan stamp. Best pic I could get:
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h136/jameth1971/IMG_3627.jpg


This is all just for reference:


Below the blasted but unfinished United Cutlery Knife with a first attempt painted Master Cutlery Knife:

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h136/jameth1971/DSC_0671.jpg

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h136/jameth1971/DSC_0675.jpg

Stock MC knife and sheath which is about the same as the stock UC.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h136/jameth1971/DSC_0026-1.jpg

Stock MC versus Custom UC:

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h136/jameth1971/DSC_0003-2.jpg

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h136/jameth1971/DSC_0011-1.jpg
 
Ah, finally- someone with the endcap black like it's supposed to be.
Nice job on the repaint. With the correct paint scheme it really makes the knife look massive. I've picked up 2 of the UC versions off eBay in the past couple months. Just need a Savage sheath and I'm satisfied.
 
So is the black on the blade and butt cap flat or a satin finish? Black powder coating always looks more satin
 
So is the black on the blade and butt cap flat or a satin finish? Black powder coating always looks more satin


Flat. Satin looked way to shiny.

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Ah, finally- someone with the endcap black like it's supposed to be.
Nice job on the repaint. With the correct paint scheme it really makes the knife look massive. I've picked up 2 of the UC versions off eBay in the past couple months. Just need a Savage sheath and I'm satisfied.

Thanks.

Harry's sheaths rock.
 
Savage sheaths rock, you say? Yeah, if you like sheaths made with low quality leather!! If you want a sheath that really rocks, buy a Peloza sheath or a Bob Schrap handmade sheath. Those sheath makers rock and use the finest quality leather available!! Another awesome sheath maker is a guy named Andrew Clifford. Man, you cannot beat sheaths made by Andy and Bob. Esp Andy's sheaths. Next to those sheaths, Savage sheaths look downright less than stellar. but for the poor man or the man that wants a cheap sheath, his will work (Savage's).

I just landed a UC Rambo 2 knife. It is the first-run production ones that came out in the 1980's. Better quality and much better made than the latter ones and the ones made by Master Cutlery! I got it just because it was at a price that I couldn't pass up. But to be honest, if you want a solid Rambo knife, Buy Handmade!! I have a handmade First Blood knife and several handmade Sly II version knives. Those knives are badass!!! I also have a handmade Rambo 2 style knife made with ATS-34 stainless steel and that knife would drive through a freaking tank!

Matter of fact, All of my handmade Rambo style knives are made so well they will drive through a tank!! LOL!! The UC version Rambo knives are nice to have for collection purposes and for in-home or office displays. But the steel that is used for their blades, they are not designed to be actually used for the extreme hardcore survival situations. If you want one made for that, buy handmade from Ray Matton, Martin Knives, Andrew Clifford knives, Steve Voorhis knives, Jimmy Lile originals, and etc. I heard Black Starr Knives make very good solid Rambo handmade knives. But I have not had any business with them so I cannot really say anything about them, good or bad. But I am sure their knives are just as good.

But just remember, you are sure going to pay a lot more than $200 for a high end handmade Rambo style knife. I just bought an ACK Sly II knife. It is the very first one in a series run that Andy is making, and it is numbered 1. And I paid $750 for it plus shipping. But I didn't mind it because Andy's knives are built solid as they come. Built to be used and built not just to last, but to Outlast!! Anyway, a $450 to $800 price range is what you are looking at to buy handmade. And the Lile originals and Next Generation ones are more than that. Ray Matton's and Andy Wood's handmade First Blood knives are pricier even, but you get excellent, superb quality in knife and sheath when you buy from either of them. And so, just thought I'd share my thoughts and share prices for handmade Rambo knives versus the cheaper, un-useful mass production ones. Hang Tuff!!
 
I just got my Handmade MCE II knife made by Newt Martin of Martin Knives. I have actually had it for about 3 weeks now. All I can say is Totally Awesome!!!!! This is a Real Rambo style knife folks! Made with S35VN superior stainless steel, same for the guard, stainless steel handle, T6 6061 grade aluminum for pommel/ endcap, you just cannot go wrong with this solid knife.

Of course, as I said before, you'll pay a bit more for a knife like this than you would for the wall hanger UC and MC mass produced cheapies. But, they Are good to Look at, lol.

My MCE II ran me about $750. Soon I will also have my Ray Matton handmade First Blood knife. It will be made with same materials that the Lile original one was made with. Awesome quality D2 steel blade and guard, 316 stainless steel handle (maybe its 303 stainless.steel as Ray uses both grades), t6 6061 high grade aluminum endcap, hardened, and movie-version green cord wrap on the handle. Ray is also custom fitting and handmaking the Sly II version sheath for my FB knife.

I also will be gettin 2 knives made by new but well skilled knife maker, Sam Wilson! His brand new Model 6, which will be numbered 1 and also will have Prototype stamped on the blade, will have traits on it resembling the.first 3 Rambo Knives!! Man, that's going to be one umpressive knife in its own right!!

The Sam Wilson Model 6 Number 1 has a price that is going to be a bit higher than the ones he makes behind it. If you get a chance, Google Search Sam's well made knives!!! You'll be glad you did!!
 
I don't know if anyone has ever noticed that on the screen used sheath, the stitching at the top of the belt loop is curved, not straight across:

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Screencaps from the movie:

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I don't know if anyone has ever noticed that on the screen used sheath, the stitching at the top of the belt loop is curved, not straight across:

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Screencaps from the movie:

http://www.therpf.com/members/jedifather/albums/other-stuff/284099-belt-loop.jpg

http://www.therpf.com/members/jedifather/albums/other-stuff/284100-belt-loop2.jpg

Yes that is correct. The screen used sheaths were made by Johnson Sheathery, and not Jim Buffaloe, who made the screen used ones for Jimmy Lile in First Blood. :)
 
I don't know if anyone has ever noticed that on the screen used sheath, the stitching at the top of the belt loop is curved, not straight across:

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Screencaps from the movie:

http://www.therpf.com/members/jedifather/albums/other-stuff/284099-belt-loop.jpg

http://www.therpf.com/members/jedifather/albums/other-stuff/284100-belt-loop2.jpg


Awesome catch. I totally missed that.

I will have Harry make that change when I order another sheath from him.
 
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