Questions About Bond Films that You Have been Afraid to Ask SPOILERS
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thegreatgalling
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You are referring to the "OMG Smilex gas! - HE'S S GONNA KILL EVERYBODY!!!!" line?
I just think she said it quickly and it panic, never really heard a different accent.
thegreatgalling
Master Member
Def. agree Barryjoe and like the connection you made between the Dr. No and CR scenes...I find the parallel amusing.
:thumbsup
It's nice to get into the really nerdy details and have people who know what you're talking about! :lol
KojiroVance
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We didn't arrange your defection to this thread for your amusement, No. Two.
(edit) Oh, funny thing about CASINO ROYALE. I thought the later scene in Madagascar (chasing the bomb maker) was over the top and just piled up to the miraculous escape. On second viewing, I realized that this was probably meant to be the pre-titles sequence, the typical "mini-mission" extravaganza that started with GOLDFINGER (so many bad tropes and motifs started with the third film, particularly the avalanche of cute quips and Bond smarming it up). Placed AFTER the titles, it's a little awkward. But I still prefer the atmospheric pre-titles sequence they put in, particularly how it ends with a new take on the "spin, shoot at the audience" climax.
One difference between the DR. NO scene with Anthony Dawson and the opening of CASINO ROYALE: Connery displays a bit of distaste and relief after he kills Dent.
"She should've kept her mouth shut. "
"I'd say one of their aircraft is missing. " (Reference I think to a wartime movie by Michael Powell.)
"She's had her kicks. "
Noel Coward IIRC.
TRIVIA TREAT: Anthony Dawson reappeared in the Bond films. In addition to acting as Bond for screen tests, he was the unseen Blofeld in FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE and I think THUNDERBALL, too.
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laserpistol76
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OK, I know you said we don't talk about DAD, but how did Col. Moon survive the fall by the waterfall? It's just as implausible as when Bond fell off the bridge in Skyfall
People have survived going over Niagara Falls. Implausible? Yes. Impossible? Nah.
dbalschi
Sr Member
I'd say after QOS and before Dr No. It would be the only thing that makes sense with the introduction of Moneypenny. And yes sorry to quote a post from 2 pages ago but it's something I've been thinking about since Skyfall.
You could do it so many different ways. It all depends on which story points you want to focus on. :thumbsup
thegreatgalling
Master Member
Yeah, I see what you mean D. The introduction of Moneypenny is something that just can't be rationalized at the end of his career. But a lot of things can't be, so bring on that squinty eye!
rodneyfaile
Sr Member
Does Bond fall in love with Diana Riggs in OHMSS because she reminds him of Vesper? She was attempting suicide by drowning when he first encounters her.
Solo4114
Master Member
You mean in the film continuity or in the novels?
In the novels it's not really made clear. I don't recall Tracy trying to drown herself, but it's been a while since I read the novels.
In the films...I've decided it's just easier to treat CR as a true reboot. Separate continuity. It's too much headache to try to shoehorn the new Bond films in with the old ones. I mean, how do you explain why M is a woman for one movie but then not for another one?
In the novels it's not really made clear. I don't recall Tracy trying to drown herself, but it's been a while since I read the novels.
In the films...I've decided it's just easier to treat CR as a true reboot. Separate continuity. It's too much headache to try to shoehorn the new Bond films in with the old ones. I mean, how do you explain why M is a woman for one movie but then not for another one?
I never got that impression from the book. Obviously in the movies it isn't because Tracy precedes Vesper by about 40 years. :lol
rodneyfaile
Sr Member
Unless the Craig Bond movies are a complete reboot, they are at least prequels and they predate the Connery films. You just have to ignore that he uses text messaging in Casino Royale, lol.
They are a complete reboot. But you asked if Vesper was an influence on Bond's love for Tracy. It couldn't have been for the film because Vesper wasn't a film character until 40 years after Tracy graced the screen.
Now if you wanted to shoehorn the series together then you could probably make that "in universe" argument.
rodneyfaile
Sr Member
Shoehorning things together and making them "in universe" is my favorite part.
I am just waiting for Felix Leiter to admit he is really Matt Helm.
:behave:behave:behave :lol
thegreatgalling
Master Member
I def. prefer to mentally shoe horn, even though its fairly difficult. Part of my enjoyment of the films is that it IS one dude and one career.
I understand CR is intended as a reboot but as rodneyfaile said, it's part of the fun.
I understand CR is intended as a reboot but as rodneyfaile said, it's part of the fun.
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