Pulse Rifle - DESTROYED BY UPS!!! CASE CLOSED 5/18/09

Re: Pulse Rifle - DESTROYED BY UPS!!! 5/15 UPDATE- UPS CAN'T FIND IT! post 64

I work for FedEx and they have a policy that if it claim could have been prevented by the Store, Driver, or other worker, they can be fined, or even have the total claim taken out of the stores budget. It is probably why we have seen a lot of UPS customers coming to us more and more. FedEx even raised their minimum liability on a lot of stuff to $1000 from $100 for ground delivery, and $500 to $1000 on express.

The Ground drivers are all contractors, which means they can lose all their profit for one mistake. of course some of these guys work for a larger trucking agency, and there are slackers everywhere, but UPS drivers jobs are protected by union and they could often care less what happens to a package.

Both UPS and FedEx drivers are also under huge time pressures, and have had much of their workforce cut to the bone, so mistakes are happening more and more as a result. The same goes for the post office.

I would say if you ship a large fragile item always over pack it to the extreme, even with they extra costs. You can pick up a cheap rigid guncase and over pack it in a box. Packing peanuts are pretty much useless because stuff will shift to the side of the box and can then get both shock and puncture damage. You need to make sure the item is protected itself with bubble wrap or a case and then suspended in the center of the larger box to absorb any impacts. Crumpled paper works great for that and then peanuts can be used to fill the voids and help keep the box rigid because other boxes WILL be stacked on top of it.

I am sure the pack and ship at the UPS store will do a good job because of the material at hand and they might also share in the liability more than the drivers. Same goes for the FedEx pack and ship and other packing services.

I have seen expensive antiques packed in plastic bags loose in a small box and expected to be safe because they wrote fragile on the box. Remember these will be handled by machines that can't read. The only way to get true packaging "insurance" on an item is through a rider on homeowners or business insurance. What the shipping companies offer is their own kind of claims liability, which in a time of recession, is more likely to be looked at with suspicion to keep the money in the company. Penny pinching is the way of the day now.

Good luck, I hope it makes it out much safer next time around.
Andy
 
Re: Pulse Rifle - DESTROYED BY UPS!!! 5/15 UPDATE- UPS CAN'T FIND IT! post 64

I have no respect for UPS. Aside from damaging my items in the past, the worst issue I had with them was a couple years ago when I was waiting for an expensive low number brass locomotive and tender to arrive. The delivrey date came and went and the website said it had mysteriously been delivered??? When I looked into it, they claimed I even signed for it! So I pressed the issue and of course they could not produce a copy of my signature (thank goodness the shipper required a signature!) and eventually they had to pay for another locomotive, though the number was much higher when I got it. But at least I got it, no thanks to them. Very dishonest... I never use UPS now, even when requested to by someone.
 
Re: Pulse Rifle - DESTROYED BY UPS!!! 5/15 UPDATE- UPS CAN'T FIND IT! post 64

...UPS will be sending me a check for $379, not the full $600. But at least I have the gun back and a check in the mail (?).

After examining the damage it is rebuildable. The electronics were not damaged and still function. The cage needs to be replaced though.

I'd like to hear their reason for not paying the full amount.
Is he able to judge the damage to such a high-value prop? Or is it because the trigger still works...?
 
Re: Pulse Rifle - DESTROYED BY UPS!!! 5/15 UPDATE- UPS CAN'T FIND IT! post 64

I've got one of those Hartford blade runner airsoft replicas coming tomorrow via FedEx. I've seen the guy that delivers here to work just toss boxes from his truck on to the concrete dock instead of handing them up to you or setting them at least a bit carefully on the dock. I hope I'm out there when he comes by so I can catch him before he goes in to "throw mode". :unsure
 
Re: Pulse Rifle - DESTROYED BY UPS!!! 5/15 UPDATE- UPS CAN'T FIND IT! post 64

I've got one of those Hartford blade runner airsoft replicas coming tomorrow via FedEx. I've seen the guy that delivers here to work just toss boxes from his truck on to the concrete dock instead of handing them up to you or setting them at least a bit carefully on the dock. I hope I'm out there when he comes by so I can catch him before he goes in to "throw mode". :unsure

Not to support them or anything, but any package needs to be able to sustain a 3-foot drop or toss. Damage is more likely to occur at the loading depot than by having the driver toss it onto your dock.
 
Re: Pulse Rifle - DESTROYED BY UPS!!! 5/15 UPDATE- UPS CAN'T FIND IT! post 64

O.K. finally some freakin positive news. I went to the UPS store after work and spoke with Ryan. He had my package set aside for me. He also said he knows that UPS will be sending me a check for $379, not the full $600. But at least I have the gun back and a check in the mail (?).

After examining the damage it is rebuildable. The electronics were not damaged and still function. The cage needs to be replaced though.

matt will take care of you .. he is the man :thumbsup
 
Re: Pulse Rifle - DESTROYED BY UPS!!! 5/15 UPDATE- UPS CAN'T FIND IT! post 64

Ryan at the ups store has been emailing the claims department for an explanation on the payoff. He has sent 5 emails that I know of so far. They all have gone unanswered.:thumbsdown
 
Re: Pulse Rifle - DESTROYED BY UPS!!! 5/15 UPDATE- UPS CAN'T FIND IT! post 64

Ryan at the ups store has been emailing the claims department for an explanation on the payoff. He has sent 5 emails that I know of so far. They all have gone unanswered.:thumbsdown

See, this is what I learned:
It'll be the one person you have a relationship with at UPS that will help - no one else will. I have 3 drivers that come here all the time, they're great Guys, they come see Movies here, I give them Posters for the Kids, they have delivered to me at night after hours - so it's not all of UPS that sucks. Like everything - including this board - there are ass#@les.

I got a a Driver I had never seen before, I was pissed when he put the package down, for all I know he threw the paperwork and package in the first dumpster, because I was pissed and made it his problem.

My regular Drivers have gone OUT OF THEIR WAY to help me. A couple of them still apologize every time they see me.

At least you have someone trying for you and you have the possibility of 'a check in the mail.' I'm still waiting for UPS to admit they even tried to deliver it- well my Vendor is.

Laffo.
 
Re: Pulse Rifle - DESTROYED BY UPS!!! 5/15 UPDATE- UPS CAN'T FIND IT! post 64

dumbass ups driver left a fragile box just outside in the thunderstorm instead of having the foresight to put it in between the doors or under the staircase a few weeks ago. A little creative thinking come on..
 
Re: Pulse Rifle - DESTROYED BY UPS!!! 5/15 UPDATE- UPS CAN'T FIND IT! post 64

I have yet to have a bad expirence with either UPS or FedEx, and I use them both about the same.

However, I have had bad expirences with the USPS on more than one occasion. The Drivers here seem to be too lazy to get out of thier little truck. On one particular occasion, I had an iPod Touch coming in the mail. Rather than leaving it on my doorstep, the driver decided to smush the box down and stuff it instead of my mailbox. I came home and literally half of it was sticking out, flap open on the mailbox, with the other have stuffed into the mailbox.
 
Re: Pulse Rifle - DESTROYED BY UPS!!! 5/15 UPDATE- UPS CAN'T FIND IT! post 64

On one particular occasion, I had an iPod Touch coming in the mail. Rather than leaving it on my doorstep, the driver decided to smush the box down and stuff it instead of my mailbox. I came home and literally half of it was sticking out, flap open on the mailbox, with the other have stuffed into the mailbox.

I'm sooo sorry. The visual I'm getting on this is like something right out of a comedy. :lol ....I can say this because I've seen the same thing, first hand. I know how it feels, bro.

There are still ways to utilize USPS to prevent things like this from happening. ...and it's usually less than 2 bucks for the service. ;)
 
Re: Pulse Rifle - DESTROYED BY UPS!!! 5/15 UPDATE- UPS CAN'T FIND IT! post 64

I called Ryan yesterday. He said the store is now responsible for paying me my claim. No check in the mail, just come in and grab the cash! So, that's what I did. Still no reason as to why. I still think it's so I can have the gun back and money. Some have said if I got the full payout they would have kept the gun. So, I went and picked up $379.95 (orig. claim $600), that should rebuild the gun for the owner.

I want to thank everyone for their support on this. It's not over yet as I have to rebuild her, but at least I have some closer.
 
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You should have gotten the full amount. Did anyone there explain to you WHY you're not getting the full $600 you paid for in insurance?

Glad you feel good about it tho. I've had my share of horrors with any and all carriers. You name it, they've screwed me.
 
Still no reason as to why not the full amount. At this point in the ordeal I'm just glad it's done with.
 
Yes, they would have kept it if you had wanted the full claims amount. You can also count yourself lucky that they didn't refuse your full amount because it was pretty much a one of a kind item without a retail replacement value. They can even refuse to ship it at all according to their documentation. FedEx gained a lot of customers when UPS started refusing to ship Guitars, and Violins, as well as artwork.

Andy
 
FedEx gained a lot of customers when UPS started refusing to ship Guitars, and Violins, as well as artwork.
Andy


IMO I would NEVER have a Guitar come through the mail :lol However yes FedEx rocks. And thier online tracking service actaully updates properly.

I'm sooo sorry. The visual I'm getting on this is like something right out of a comedy. :lol

I didn't know what to think when I saw it. I had been waiting anxiously for it for days, since my old iPod had broken and I was really hurting without it. I drove home one day, and I immediatly looked up at my porch as I had done for the past week, hoping to see the box sitting there waiting for me. I got dissapointed when I didn't see it, then looked at my mailbox and saw it hanging out of there like a giant tumor. I couldn't really pick an emotion, I was angry at the mail lady, happy it was actaully here, and worried it might be broken.
 
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A little more fuel for the fire.

Had a package delivered by UPS today. So far the contents appear to be fully intact. Here's the issue. The driver delivered it to the wrong house!

Luckily I was able to retrieve it quite easily, but that's not the point.

The only reason I went with UPS was it was a heavy item and the seller I bought from gave me free shipping on it.

At this point I gotta get on board and say that I am done with UPS. I will not use them, even if it's free.
 
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Wow that is just terible. I am glad you got something for it. Overall I have been happy with UPS. If the shipping is over a specific amount it is handed off from person to person inside UPS. Those boxes tend to arrive ok. We have had UPS payout 3 times in the last 5 years. Every time they paid what we asked for, so while it has been frustrating at times they did make good on it in the end. FedEX destroyed a $20,000.00 server and refused to pay for it. Actualy bent it in half. We think it was dropped off a moving vehicle to put the bend and twist into it. We dropped the account. DHL has also lost things and refused to pay or took a long time to make it right. UPS seems to be the best of the bunch.

Bobby
 
It seems to come down to personal experience and honestly no one company is better than the other. You go with the company that you have had the best experience with. The lesser of the all the evils.

Obviously, I have had the worst experience with UPS, hence my final discontinuation from patronizing them.
 
They all have their problems - I've had issues with all of them so it doesn't matter to me any longer. I realize at this point it's a crap shoot.
 
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