Proposed UK model filming day, Sheffield, summer

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  1. LRL

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    I am a pro film maker with a track record of putting on events on a shoestring. I live in Sheffield, and I'm after some expressions of interest. Some of you may be pure model makers but I suspect most of you are wannabe Gerry Andersons.

    How about an open model filming day where we have the 1999 moon being blown out of orbit, then have a ragtag fleet of ships evacuating the earth, the odd space battle, and finally finding a new home planet.

    The majority of models would just have to float serenely through space, we could have a couple rigged to explode and the 3d computer model guys could join in too. Make a short 3 minute trailer featuring as many models as possible.

    Sheffield is bang in the middle of the country, I can blag a blacked out studio which is next door to an exhibition space, so we could have a model exhibition while people were waiting to appear on camera. We could have a live camera feed into the exhibition space so people could see what was going on.

    Get enough people and the cost would be tens of pounds each. This would be a non profit joint venture, so I'd expect people to pull their weight and sort problems out for themselves. Costs would be hire of the exhibition space, tracking and jib equipment, catering and promotion. I bet we could get all that for a grand. Sound like fun?
     
  2. Supa troop

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    Hey
    While your plan sounds like a really cool idea it also sounds a bit to ambitious ........... im not trying to dampen your high spirits just being realistic.
    Many of the members here spend Hundreds of Pounds/dollors on buying in the Parts or even making the parts to build their Screen Accurate models, so the thought of having some of them blown up is a bit off putting.
    While you initial idea is very ambitious it does has some potential and the finer points of your idea could be worked on and made to work.

    il try to elaborate for you.....

    Last November we held the UKs First Replica Prop Party in Birmingham, one of the main key features of that Prop Party was all members were able to attend for Free and display their Models.
    Your idea could be used by setting up some kind of Green Screen and filming some of models flying across the screen and then played back to the General Public with all the usual Add on's and relevant green screen editing.
    We had a SPFX Make Up Work Shop, and the Model Section guys gave out some really good advice on Building etc etc so there is no reason why we could'nt have a Green Screen Filming Workshop at the next UK Prop Party, we have the space and the talent.

    Keeping it very simple usually works best and as mentioned your initial idea has substance, im sure others will chime in with their thoughts but go and have another think about your idea and how best to simlify it at minimal cost.
     
  3. LRL

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    Firstly I did indeed imply that we would be blowing up your models, and I can see how this would deter any modeller. I meant that we would build models intended for that very purpose.
    As for the green screen, I was hoping to be lower tech than even that. We'll do what Gerry did, make a lit starfield (leds on magnets with the current going through the magnetic paint on a dimmer, or a backlit board with holes in it) then shoot models in a blacked out studio, in front of the starfield, with single point lighting, probably moving the camera rather than the model.

    There would be a greenscreen rigged, but I envision this would be used for people to bring costumes and be included in dioramas or model interiors.

    And no I can't subsidise you all, but neither am I asking to be subsidised, I am donating time, other crewmembers time (which I will have to pay back in kind) and equipment, which is just as valuable as your models. What are those models for if you can't fly them at least once?
     
  4. LRL

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    Whoa, I missed the tagline "UK RPF Event co-ordinator". Simon, how can I get you onboard?
     
  5. Supa troop

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    well i did hint in my last post about the UK PROP PARTY we just had, and as i said if you can simlify the idea i think it would be great to rig up some kind of mini filming studio and replicate how the Movie makers made things appear to fly and really draw the crowds in.

    keep the thread alive and keep coming with the ideas
     
  6. LRL

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    Hmm, I really don't think a mini studio is the way to go, tagging onto an existing event is a good idea, but we'd need a fair bit of space, and I can't blag a free studio in Brum, or crew. Once we start paying for that lot it starts to become unfeasable.

    These models are big, and we need space all around them. We could do it with smaller models, but that just seems.......unambitious and unremarkable.

    I don't really get it, I'm detecting very little enthusiasm for what I would have thought would be a dream scenario, cmon throw me a bone here!
     
  7. Supa troop

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    Have you heard of the NEC ?? the memorabilia Event ?? you let me know what you space you need and il sort it ......

    Going by your initial Post and trying to simplify things, i think the idea of setting up a mini filming studio something like the picture below but on a much smaller scale

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    Ive thrown you a bone mate so if you want to generate interest and have my help you need to work more on your idea, which ive also mentioned.
     
  8. LRL

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    Didn't mean you Simon, you've actually tried to be helpful, I meant the many who have read this thread without commenting, you didn't notice me turn to face the audience? I have attended Memorabilia in Brum, tell me more about the RPF presence there. I'd be happy to do a taster to build contacts and trust. But (turning to the audience here Simon) someone has to bring a model, throw yer hat in the ring, step up, speak up, do we have any takers???................oh look, tumbleweed.
     
  9. Supa troop

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    Well i have to be honest with you mate, posts like these are not going to gain you any favours ....... remember the movie " Field of Dreams "

    Build it and they will come, meaning if its just you and i that get the wheels in motion and sort something constructive and doable out then others will soon join in, if it doesnt happen then the project gets shelved for the next time.

    Dont take it so personal, once you have something to show the members they will show enthusiasm ....... trust me :)
     
  10. jedimaster

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    You wanna get folks involved. Set it up to film it the way ILM filmed it. That's what we do here. Replicate what ILM did. Also maybe show your rig and explain how you want to use it and the models. So far it comes off as bring your models for me to film , oh and bring some we can blow up. Do you have any experience with pyrotechnics? Do you know how to rig a model to explode? Do you know that most models have a large chunk of resin in them and are not like the pyro models which were built of lighter weight material just for explosions? You really need to start looking at the way miniatures were filmed back then and work out the shoot, storyboard etc before folks around here are gonna offer up their models even for a simple shot such as a pass by.
     
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    what he said :)
     
  12. LRL

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    Fair comment Jedimaster, I intend to shoot with a DSLR as the tiny camera with changeable lenses makes sense to me, so replicating a system involving what was at the time a necessarily massive camera seems more like a reenactment than a shoot. I'm hoping to use some old techniques, capturing the whole image in camera instead of comping it. This sort of technique suffered from generation loss, but could be viable in the digital age.

    I was thinking of using back projection, with a huge digital projector (yes I can access such a beast) We shoot layer after layer of passes synching the moving background to the new shot. This purely optical approach wil give fast results and event friendly immediate gratification. We then switch the screen to blue, green or whatever primary colour is not on the model, and get the shots for comping later. A motorised rig is too specialised for me to get, and not very portable. I was going to make do with track and jib, and maybe an endosopic lens for ultra close stuff. Because we have no control over how the models can be mounted, it is difficult to plan for animating the model.

    Storyboard, has to be done on the day when we know what we've got to play with. Could be done a bit before if we get promises, but certainly not before anyone gets on board.

    As for pyrotehnics, nope not prepared to tackle that myself, but surely we have a member who can.

    And that's the whole point, it's a collaborative process and if people have something to bring to tha table then I welcome it. Expressions of interest and offers to help are what I'm after before we get into the nitty gritty.

    But you clearly have a rig and experience, I'm very pleased to make your acquaintance, can you help?
     
  13. jedimaster

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    Mate i was born and raised a bit in sheffield. Spent a lot of time at both Hallam and Sheffield universities in the late nineties. But Now live in Oz so i can only help with ideas.
    DSLR is a good choice and there is some fantastic results done post too with the right software which i'm sure you already have experience with. your gonna need a few extra c-stands for mounting these models. make sure they all have the 1/4 inch thread , ie camera mount as that is the common mount for these models. The other SIMON - Supa Troop is your man on pulling this together. As for any Pyro work i would say that would be done in after effects. Get plenty of shots of the whole model against a blue/green screen and give it to the CG DUDES to add the explosions and models breaking up etc.

    To do any kind of real pyro work requires not only licenced proffessionals but a closed set. Its not quite as simple as jamming a roman candle up its * and run like ****. Also know your camera speeds at which to shoot these miniature effects. And these models need to be lit differently to say your average set. Look i'm sure you know all this already so i don't want to sound like a ******.Ive seen some great shots done in a living room , with a sheet of MDF painted green and a couple of wires and a $500 camcorder so it can be done. done properly it could be good.

    simon.
     
  14. Supa troop

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    Great Post Si and thanks for the vote of confidence.

    As i said i can provide you space and will try to help with other props for this ie rods and green screen, the models, well thats down to the talented guys here in this part of the forum and wether or not they are willing to put their own effort into this.
    Im really interested in making this work as a work shop for our big Prop Party event later this year, i think it will add something extra and unique to what was a great event already.

    The technical camera and SPFX stuff is something you will have to work out.
    I suggest a list of your needs and from that list we can then decide if this project is actually doable.

    Actually the more i think about this, Simon picked up on the idea of setting up a mini ILM style work shop and i honestly belive this is the way to go, if not for the purpose you require then definately as a static display.
     
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  15. LRL

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    Two really helpful posts, thankyou guys.
    You still haven't said much about the Brum event, is it the one at the end of April? Give me some more information about the sort of things you're taking, and I'm sure there is a limit to the space I can have, are we talking a tabletop or a 10m x 10m bit of floorspace? Also important is the sort of sized model we're taking, just give me some idea and I'll cut my cloth accordingly.
     
  16. Supa troop

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    Have a quick shifty through this Thread mate, ive strated the link at the relevent page for you.

    This is your call you tell me what you need and as i have said we can then see what i can help with

    http://www.therpf.com/f9/uk-prop-party-confirmed-19th-20th-november-110797/index10.html
     
  17. LRL

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    We have our first taker from the Eagle Tranporter forum, the Liberator leads the fleet. Cmon RPF I'm only after expressions of interest.
     
  18. Supa troop

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    Ok hold on a second, are you advertising your idea on other modelling forums ??

    If thats the case then we can not have Non-RPF related Groups tagging onto RPF events.
    so with this in mind il pull out my interest in this as of now..... sorry
     
  19. LRL

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    Ok, looks like a few small models, and enough space for maybe 3 tables as it all looks fairly crowded. The interactive element is for the public rather than our members. Right, in order to prove I'm a can do sorta guy I propose....

    A table top flying rig (I will not be explaining this, but will shoot a demo and post the video) offering to fly any model people bring us. Since memorabelia is basically a huge sci fi shop, we should have plenty of spaceships to deal with. We will assemble a fleet to defend the planet. We have a pre prepared video of an alien invasion fleet approaching the earth, then a shot of the alien leader looking at his scanner, (any volunteers?) We see the endless parade of ships shot over the weekend, then back to the invader who flees in a hail of laserish fire. Victory to Earth, bless us all every one. Be nice if we could run a model making workshop too.

    Waddaya think?
     
  20. LRL

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    "we can not have Non-RPF related Groups tagging onto RPF events"
    1. Why not, all modellers together.
    2. Since when is it an RPF event? RPF members are very welcome but are not exclusive.
    3. Brum is your show, still happy to help out, but it doesn't replace the event I'm proposing.
    4. Do you really think that sort of attitude is appropriate in an open forum intended to help fellow builders and enthusiasts.
    5. Not just a little embarrassed.....
    6. Just a little?
    7. Why not read the thread before you decide?
    Proposed model filming day, summer, Sheffield - Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Forum
     
  21. Supa troop

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    1/ If you are familiar with the workings of the RPF, you will see that members arrange RPF prop parties, a place where RPF members come together to show off and discuss their Work, the link i posted for you was the UK RPF prop party all the members were associated with the RPF.

    2/ see above

    3/ Brum is not my show no, however we are there representing the RPF. I dont expect you to replace an event your proposing but we can no longer tag it onto an RPF event

    4/ I am not aware of any attitude on my part.

    5/ For what ??

    6/ See above

    7/ i have no vested interest in your link as it is a group that im not familiar with or i have the remotest interest in, as i mentioned in a previous post, we cannot have outside groups involved in RPF events.

    this is my last comment on the subject in an RPF capacity, if the members here want to help you out with your proposal im sure they will chime in, i wish you the best of luck with your plan
     
  22. LRL

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    Lets skip straight to 7 as I fear you have the wrong end of the stick.

    WERE YOU TO READ IT

    You would see that I have made no mention of RPF events, nor am I tagging my event onto yours, they are two separate things. There is no question of non RPF people gatecrashing your party.

    Miscommunication is a two way street and I'm sorry for my part if I wasn't clear. I suspect you've rolled down the shutters, but my offer still stands if you want it.
     
  23. Supa troop

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    yep i guess i can see how this can have been mis-read however

    youve come here asking for people to help you out with a project of yours and been quite vocal about the lack of interest, ive offered you a route to join our Prop Party in the UK, which you don't seem to impressed by however i feel your missing the bigger picture, if you were to read the Prop Party thread in its entirety you will have noticed that it was our first and the outcome from that event is next time we get together we will have much bigger and better space.

    Im not trying to take away your idea im trying to include you in future RPF events as i feel you have a great idea and would add depth to our event however what you failed to mention here is the fact you are advertising your idea on other forums which is within your right to do, but ive explained to you that an RPF prop Party is just that a Party for RPF members.

    you seem to be getting frustrated with my responses and i apologise for that but i can only act on an RPF level and im happy to work with you on that, i cannot however speak for the rest of the guys here and commit them to a project that involves outside organisations.

    if you want to bring your project to the RPF for the RPF members then im all ears.
     
  24. Ronan87

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    Hit the nail hard. Since we (gf and I) will be in UK later this year, if this idea gets off the floor, it would be a nice stop by and maybe bring a model or two, or even some of my studio equipment.

    If its a RPF event thats even better. From past experience, anything related to RPF gets my 2 thumbs up and beer/wine/soft drinks added :)

    G/L :)
     
  25. ralphee

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    May be willing, but would need more info, and my hands only on my models, period.
    Blue screen sounds cool, may have a few pieces ready by that time.

    Lee
     
  26. Supa troop

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    do you have dates when your in the UK
     
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    Sorry, meant to add, that would be if it were at the RPF meet at the NEC.

    Lee
     
  28. LRL

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    Can we get back to this? Is this the sort of thing you were thinking of, or can I be more ambitious?
     
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    I'm trying to guage opinion, give me some input guys.

    1. For your Prop party (when is it, still don't know)....
    Do you want a rig that can take big models, taking up a large area, with screens so people can see the results, but closed to the public when members are shooting, then be used to shoot whatever people bring to us or....a small rig able to cope with anything up to say 12", more for audience participation than a service for members, but fun.

    If it's the big rig I'm going to need support and a budget as I can't cash in favours out of Sheffield.

    What do you think of the idea of a kit bashing workshop, you buy a little cheap snap together kit, then customise it with extra bits you pay for on a component by component basis, all arranged in tubs on the table. Then paint and shoot each model before it goes home with the proud owner. This would be a very busy table and whoever ran it would be working very hard, is it worth it? Would make a terrific, but not essential, addition to the shooting rig.

    To my mind the event is mostly selling selling selling, and I think stuff that lets people actually participate, particularly kids, is very welcome and would be popular. My kids would love it.

    2. The intention is to concentrate fully on making the best film we can for the Sheffield event. There is some debate on the other forum about whether the public should be let in at all. Personally I think it's a shame not to, but I'll go with popular opinion , should any pops opine.
     
  30. J Scorn

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    hello, im new to the site (about 2 days) ive been reading all the above comments and i see everyone has brought in a fair comment, however i'd like to 'throw the hat into the ring' and attend.
    I enjoy what i do and always seen it as just a hobby, though my wife believes i could go forward in this (shes my real boss) and to do this id like to make CONTACTS...

    .. maybe your events would be a great way for me to achieve this. i would be willin to produce items required for any use on the day with time permitting.

    so, any more info you have or changes to the above please do friend me and we can go from there.

    If noone speaks up how will we ever know!

    thanks everyone.
     
  31. LRL

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    AAAH..........oh sorry J, you made me jump. I don't know how useful the event would be for contacts. But you would have a video to show. I don't want to push people into building things they wouldn't normally build, but if you could keep me informed that would be great. I will start a separate thread for the Birmingham event once I know when it is and what sort of thing is wanted. Right now the little company I have won't stretch to fill two threads.

    And thankyou for your input and positivity.......THERE IS A HAT IN THE RING!
     
  32. LRL

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    Another hat, another forum, we have a pyrotechnician, J do you want his contact details to collaborate on an exploding model or am I presuming too much.

    Could really do with some RPF party basic info Simon, it's time it got it's own thread.
     
  33. Supa troop

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    Theres no interest im afraid from the RPF so im afraid im out, good luck with your own event though i look forward to seeing the results
     
  34. LRL

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    You don't half run hot and cold Simon, you asked me to adapt my idea to your event, which I have done, and have yet to receive the courtesy of a reply, then you cry off.....again. You're not still hung up about the other forum are you, I thought we'd sorted that one out? I'm genuinely confused here. If you don't like my ideas then let me know what's wrong, I did ask for input...?
     
  35. Supa troop

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    Hot and Cold ??

    You came here to gauge interest for an idea of yours, i expressed an interest that we may be able to incorporate your idea at the next UK RPF Prop Party however looking at the Thread i dont see much interest from RPF members, how this is my problem is baffaling me, i cant force members here to sign up to an RPF event or an event your trying to organise.

    As for crying off :lol i cant do anything without the RPF members, i dont build the screen Accurate models they do, i can't tell them to bring them to an event that is their choice.

    You seriously need to alter you attitude and review this thread and think about your choice of words and the sacastic inuendos you have used, maybe thats the reason no-one is warming to you or your ideas.

    And again il remind you i can't do anything for you without the help of the members here.
     
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    Ok, ill try. I was peeked at first, thinking "this guy is sure to start posting info on how he's going to rig up a shooting set"........im still to see, or hear any concrete info on what you intend to shoot.
    Are you talking about some £5 snap and go fly with precolored plastic, r are you talking studio scale filming miniatures.

    If you are talking the latter mate, your having a bloody laugh thinking ANYBODY is gonna sit there, with there hand up yelling me, me ,me.
    These models, are not your average off the shelf pick me up, they take incredible amounts of time, energy and cash to build, and thats just the resin GK's.

    This isnt even to mention the case of scratchbuilds that dont even show the hundreds of man hours in parts ID alone.

    Now that puts you in the light just a little bit, hopefully you will now realise, MANY of us wont even be bothered now, as we arent even sure how such a model would even be suspended for a start, bit of string, bit of chewing gum, or maybe a full threaded out armature support, so our investments dont go crashing to the ground?

    What kind of shooting set up is it to be, blue screen, with a real deal camera pass, or a black velour backdrop with sequins....again, the latter, isnt going to float the boats of any established studio scaler.

    Then your attitude, its crappy, dont get a bite, so you stamp your feet, aint gonna float mate, not with me anyway, thanks for trying Simon, but im so out.

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    OK, bye guys, I could debate further but I fail to see the point.
    For the rest of you.
    I get how precious your models are, and merely transporting them is a big consideration. But let's get this the right way round. I assume (and this is MY assumption and may be wrong or certainly not universal) that you put in the hours and expense that you do to achieve more than the possession of a really big model. After all, it has no practical use, it takes up space and costs a fortune in time and money. There is no rational reason to even begin such a project, so why DO you do it. You do it because something inspired you, probably at a young age, and that feeling has never gone away. You saw something so cool that you've spent maybe decades building the skills needed to replicate it, and I'm sure in many cases, surpass it. That thing was a movie or a TV programme. I'm just trying to help you do what it is you're doing anyway. And I'm not doing this out of any motive other than the same one, because I saw some cool stuff too, and I want to replicate it, and yes my office looks like a sci-fi prop store, and yes I build stuff to please my inner ten year old, and my father is a modeller (railways, large scale outdoor ones) so I think I know where you're coming from.

    I think some of you, maybe a lot of you, are easily of a pro standard, in all sorts of areas of skill, modelling of course, CGI, photography, lighting and sheer bloody imagination. What I bring to the table is production experience and post production expertise. I know how to run a shoot and pull all the pieces together to make a finished item. I’m not trying to take anything off you or exploit you, I’m trying to find some like minded individuals to make a quality piece of work with. Yes more detail from me would be helpful, but I need to know what I’m working with. So I will persist, and I’m sure the suspicion, disbelief, hostility and officiousness I meet in pursuing this project would be water off a duck’s back to the guy who decides to build the Star Ship Enterprise.....real big. So if you HAVE to be negative then I will cheerfully talk to you, but how about a bit of positivity. Just off to buy the chewing gum and sequins, speak soon.
     
  38. Supa troop

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    And that right there is the reason you failed to gain the trust, respect and help from the Model Builders you so badly wanted to work with.:rolleyes

    Good luck with your project.
     
  39. LRL

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    And good luck to you Simon, always happy to hear from you, I'll keep responding to you, I just thought the conversation had ceased to be useful, but it's an open forum and your opinion is valid. The quote was a bit selective wasn't it? Did the bit in the middle just pass you by?
     
  40. jedimaster

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    Ok.... Simon is being diplomatic, whereas I don't have a bone of diplomacy in me so I tell it like it is. Out of the handfull of UK studio scalers on this forum , you just burnt one of the major players. You came here with a half arsed idea without any understanding of filming miniatures. You mention a "large" mount for models being 12". Look you'd be pushed to fit an MPC falcon on that so I don't think you really have an idea of what is required to film these models. You may have the equipment , but you don't have the knowledge. These guy's are experts on these miniatures and the way they were filmed. Most like myself have been studying these things for 35 years or so. So I'm guessing that qualifies them to make their decision based on your lack of knowledge. Can you hear the crickets chirping? Combine this with the arrogant and sometimes patronizing attitude you've displayed I think you can write off this as a learning experience and let it go. I think if you had approached the idea differently you could have potentially had a good thing. This is just the wrong place to start telling people what you propose to do with their models.

    Simon.
     
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  41. LRL

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    No I said a small rig able to handle a model up to...well why don't you go back and read it? It's nice that Simons mates stick up for him, but he seems fully capable of dealing with things himself. I think his responses are reasonable, based on his point of view. But the debate seems to be heading in a useless direction, however, carry on if you must. But please actually read what I write if you're going to quote me.
     
  42. LRL

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    Oh, and I thought you made some valid points towards the end, yes I do think you guys know your business, but don't you think the hostility is a bit OTT. And if my response to that irritates you, then so be it.
     
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    You don't irritate me. Just tryin to help you understand why you aren't gettin much of a response. If you think what I said was hostile , then you have more to learn than I thought. And a rig to hold up to 12" as you put it ain't gonna hold many studio scale kits FYI. Good luck in your project.
     
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    Well done for reading the words leading up to 12", now have a little rest and read the words that follow it. I'm sure we all have things to learn and I thank you for your kind good wishes.
     
  45. Supa troop

    Supa troop Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    No Not at all, i was trying to quote your Sarcastic comments and highlight them in order for you to understand they are not winning you any favours around here, which you clearly don't seem to care about anyway.

    Simon (the other one) has hit the nail on the head really with his reply to you and judging buy your answers you clearly dont seem to get the point.

    Anyway and this is my final word (again) :facepalm i could'nt include you at an RPF event now even if i wanted to, i just dont see how you would get on with the members here and ultimately i think you will just annoy the hell out of everyone, and i can't have that.

    You now playing the hostility card which having read through this thread a number of times i think is pretty bang out of order on your part, so to summarise, You have a nice idea that has potential but im sorry the RPF members have no interest at this time, is that hostile enough for you !!
     
  46. LRL

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    A very reasonable answer as ever. Thank you Simon.
     
  47. ralphee

    ralphee Sr Member

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    This isnt going to end with a musical score on a green hilltop, so id say it could do with a lock.....anyone?

    lee
     
  48. LRL

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    And something a little more draconian from Lee, sigh.
     
  49. LRL

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    Ok, we have until the Summer, so for those of you who want to know what this is all about, I recommend posts 1, 3,12 and 37. Other posts are of course available, and you are free to explore them, but they wander off the point somewhat. If you have any questions or comments I will answer all of them, and I thank all contributors to date for their lively input.
    Thank you.
     
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2012
  50. suckface

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    as your new maybe you should post some samples of the work you have done if you have the ability to do this kind of thing people would maybe like to see your work before committing to your idea ?

    if I'm honest it sounds like you have a big plan to film some cool stuff but you don't have the skills or the budget to bring the things that you need to film to make it happen

    Like others have mentioned it's not a cheap thing to make a good model that is going to look good on film and if the models are made cheap to keep budgets down why would people then want to see cheap looking models blown up if it's not going to look as good as the movies or something that could be done using cgi by an individual for nothing more than his own time to animate it ?

    best of luck< i think if you can prove you abilty to make this thing good then people will commit but not at a large expence ?
     
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