Prometheus (Post-release)

Noeland said:
Yep, that's it. I'm seeing it in Imax.

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i think we saw it on the fake imax the first night... what i just saw today was so ffrakking much more, it was absurd.

check this link to see if there is a legit IMAX close to you...

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=...d=113621990356540393221.000469b6c5915161c3667

yes, i drove two hours to see it on a real imax screen and it was worth it.
 
Are people really expecting all the answers from a single film? How many science-fiction films give you all the answers up front?

Since it was already made known that Prometheus, while taking place in the same universe as Alien and its sequels, would not be a prequel as much as be introducing new plotlines and elements into that universe that could then be expanded upon, I never expected to fully understand these elements and plots. Nor to fully know how they could or would tie into other existing elements of said universe. And definitely not from a single viewing of the first installment in what was clearly intended to be an ongoing story.

While the film was definitely not the instant classic we had hoped for, I enjoyed the experience of seeing a film that managed to balance the feeling of fitting in somewhere in a larger narrative that we only know bits and pieces of, and giving us some recognizable elements to glimpse a connection to the ones we already knew. While a lot of the solutions in the plot were predictable, I felt like they still served to introduce new ideas and intriguing questions that people can and will discuss for a long time.

I think Prometheus showed confidence in its handling of the existing elements as well as establishing a handful of really successful elements of its own.

Most of the great fictional universes we have in our culture are established gradually, in a variety of formats and resources, before the connections within them are made clear enough to see the big picture and fully appreciate them. We just got a glimpse into new, previously unexplored, areas of one of those existing universes, leaving us with more questions that will have to be answered. I think that is exciting.

-Kim
 
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Kit Rae said:
This just goes to show how people watch films and pay attention to things differently. David was one of the most clear and obvious characters to understand in the film for me. The heart and heartlessness of his character were telegraphed in the first 20 minutes of the film. I thought they went out of their way to make his perspective on humans, his creator, and their creators very obvious, which explains his motives and every action he made in the film. There are so many details packed into the film regarding him I could write an essay on it.

It seems you did not care for the film, but I invite you to watch it again just for that performance, because if you missed it, you missed something special.

The only question open with him are what his motives are with helping Shaw at the end, and this should be up for interpretation. I know exactly what I think he has on his mind at the end, but in every other part of the film, it SHOWS you what is on his mind by his actions and reactions the the various characters.
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I interpreted David's curiosity as his primary motivator, I think that towards the end, when the Engineer did not reveal the information he had expected, he needed Shaw in order to pursue that knowledge.
 
I went and saw this last weekend. I went in with no expectations and an open mind and ended up enjoying it quite a bit.

Definitely not a perfect film by any means but still one of the better films I have seen in a long while. Also, not at the same level as Alien even though they are very different kinds of films.

The things that bothered me most were some inconsistencies with the characters ( crew member at first afraid and then later wants to play with a deadly alien snake creature) and some smaller scenes were fairly improbable or inappropriate for the scenario in which the characters find themselves( i.e. Vickers and the Captain sleep with each other while the crew is out in a potentially dangerous environment :rolleyes).

Also some smaller technical things bothered me, Some scenes should have been built up more slowly as well to add more suspense. All in all fairly superficial stuff which didn't detract too much from enjoying it regardless.
 
Noeland said:
:eek HOLY CRAP! I had no idea there was that much of a difference. Yep IMAX here I come.
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well, i'm confused actually, to my knowledge, Prometheus wasn't filmed with IMAX cameras, and the film underwent some kind of digital upconversion to the Imax format. wouldn't that mean that the sides were cut off for the Imax presentation?

But, i've seen the film twice on a regular screen now, and once on the Imax, and i'd swear it looks like there is more on the top and bottom, and it was the smaller screens that had been cropped.:wacko
 
we only have fake Imax in SoCal. Really big screens but not true Imax.

I saw it in regular digital and it was amazing. No need to have it converted from widescreen back to stupid 4:3 aspect ratio or whatever Imax is, for the sake of having it bigger but losing 1/3 the view.
 
So who is Prometheus in the film? Who steels the fire from the gods?

David? He steals his knowledge from men.
Weyland? Tries to steal from the Jockeys. The Jockey seems to understand that David is an android and imediatly starts to kill humans.
Jockeys? To me they first seemed to be god like, but they were also facing a rage for using knowledge. The alien also kills the Jockey at the end.

Is the alien lifeform God? Killing of the jockeys and humans is like the biblical Flood due to Gods rage. Id say the the alien is knowledge and technology. Humans have learned to make "evil weapons" and need to purify ourselves or are doomed.


Is David God? David is pretty much all knowing. He can see everyones dreams. Elizabeth Shaw "loses her faith" when David steals her cross, and when she prays an asks for forgivness, he talks to her, gives it back, and they fly into heaven. And Im lacking in my biblical knowledge, but King David was hated among his brothers (like David is) until he became king. Is there a way to understand David from King David in the bible?


Damn its hard to get these thoughts down in english.
 
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NAZGÛL said:
So can we post spoilers now?
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Yes of course. This separate thread was started to discuss the movie including spoilers from day one. We just requested members to use SPOILER warning or tags if they wanted to discuss major plot details during the initial first week.

At this point you can use spoiler tags if you want to, but they are not really necessary as most people participating in this thread would have seen the film by now.
 
Vivek said:
Yes of course. This separate thread was started to discuss the movie including spoilers from day one. We just requested members to use SPOILER warning or tags if they wanted to discuss major plot details during the initial first week.

At this point you can use spoiler tags if you want to, but they are not really necessary as most people participating in this thread would have seen the film by now.
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Cheers, tags removed.
 
neosporing said:
well, i'm confused actually, to my knowledge, Prometheus wasn't filmed with IMAX cameras, and the film underwent some kind of digital upconversion to the Imax format. wouldn't that mean that the sides were cut off for the Imax presentation?

But, i've seen the film twice on a regular screen now, and once on the Imax, and i'd swear it looks like there is more on the top and bottom, and it was the smaller screens that had been cropped.:wacko
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Yes, unless the film was actually shot with IMAX film it is what they call a digital remaster, which is a fancy way of saying upscale. Its actually a widescreen strip you're watching across the slightly more square screen but it's original aspect ratio is preserved.

When Nolan did Dark Knight he actually used IMAX cameras for certain sequences. So the film would transition from widescreen to full IMAX frame for those sequences. One that I can recall is when the tumbler rams the trash truck underground. On the DVD the truck barely fits in the frame and the tumbler is cropped out. No home release has yet to offer a movie with full frame IMAX sequences and I suspect changing the aspect ration mid film would be objectionable to customers.

So while our blurays are great we never see true IMAX sequences at home. Think of it like the reverse pan and scan of the future.

Prometheus looked great in 3D IMAX but Im not sure it was worth the $19 a ticket we paid. AND it wasn't a true giant screen IMAX, but the film did not contain true full frame IMAX sequences anyway. Regardless if anyone has the opportunity to seek out a true giant screen Id absolutely recommend making it happen.
 
Nighteyes said:
... Its actually a widescreen strip you're watching across the slightly more square screen but it's original aspect ratio is preserved....

Prometheus looked great in 3D IMAX but Im not sure it was worth the $19 a ticket we paid. AND it wasn't a true giant screen IMAX...Regardless if anyone has the opportunity to seek out a true giant screen Id absolutely recommend making it happen.
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On the true imax screen, it was so startling to see detail like the pores on the engineers nose in the opening scene, and he markings and structural details on the sides on the oval ship as it tilted and rose into the sky... i can't believe what i was seeing was a cropped widescreen... as i was seeing so much more then i'd previously seen.

another wierd thing was it only cost me 10.50 for the Imax and when i saw it on the crappy dark tiny screen it cost me 13.50.
 
One thing I don't like about Imax is the distortion around the edges of the frame. It is essentially being projected on a inverted sphere to create a wrap around view which distorts the image quite a bit.

I saw Prometheus in a regular theater in 3D but I may go again to see it in 2D.
 
There are two different types of true Giant Screens when it comes to IMAX. Some are dome screens, which can be more immersive when it comes to science programming. But this kind of content is usually shot with a different lens as well. Also, there are true Giant Screens that are IMAX but completely flat.

Zenwalker you probably saw yours on a dome screen. I remember seeing Star Trek on one, and when they put text on the screen, like the word IOWA was a little cut off on the edges.

So for you purists, I guess you're looking for flat Giant Screen IMAX theaters for the ultimate experience. I prefer the dome myself, but if you don't get a good seat you're totally boned.

If you're regualr theater has an IMAX screen and didn't put a huge multi story addition on the builiding than its just a retrofit. Take out the first few rows of seating and extend the screen all the way to the edge of the wall. This is how I saw Prometheus and imo it still had much more detail than the standard digital viewing.

I just wish I had liked it a little more. If you're a hand picked biologist, you'd want to see the body and you woudl be more cautious about black oil worm snakes. I am worried about Ridley Scott. Much of the film felt very off to me and while visually impressive there where too many times where I was saying to myself, Really?
 
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