Prometheus (Post-release)

This movie was fantastic.. It would have had a better ending for me if after the engineer after being impregnated got back into the Pilot seat and we never saw him agian. The funky looking alien coming out of the jockey really bothered me, I would have rather seen nothing.
 
Does anyone think the name of the planet(LV 223) has any significance in relation to Leviticus 22:3? “Say unto them, Whosoever he be of all your seed among your generations that goeth unto the holy things, which the children of Israel hallow unto the LORD, having his uncleanness upon him, that soul shall be cut off from my presence: I [am] the LORD.”

Saw the film today and the more I ponder it the more it seems that there are many little things and a lot of symbolism that has perhaps as yet gone unnoticed by most. Think this movie will continue to reward with some studious viewing. Hmm?

Chris
 
The width of the curved part of the horseshsoe was probably 120'-140' (assuming the ship in Prometheus is a similar scale, and it appeared to be from the hologram).

Agreed; at least that big given the whole thing is around 1000' in length. (SM, care to comment?)

He wanted something along the lines of the sphinx in Egypt. -S

Ha, thought that looked like Sphinx-like erosion. Pyramid of Maidum for the debris around the compound walls?

Out of curiosity, why does everyone blame only Lindelhof for the flaws of the film?

I've made this same argument elsewhere. Convenience I guess? :lol

Also, a big emerald in the center of a table? They paused on it a pretty long time on camera, you'd think it'd have been important somehow. Probably was in one of the other many versions of scripts this movie clearly went through.

Yeah, fingers crossed the extended version, if we do get one, will answer this?
 
I find it particularly annoying that Lindelof and Ridley are now changing their versions of the Prometheus storyline based on what has actually been written in forums by the audience, post viewing it.
Suddenly its possibly NOT the Earth in the beginning , it could be any planet! WTF!!!! Strangely the Wikepedia plot summary has been updated VERY recently and the prologue explaination has now gone missing. I suspect that this is because somebody has suggested the idea elsewhere and they like the fit of it,given how flawed the beginning actually is.
If anything they both seem to be becoming deliberately more vague about explaining Prometheus, and this is exactly what happened in Lost . Nobody in production gave any set answers,so there were forums of debate with so many theories ,some good, some terrible, that it was almost impossible to get a coherent storyline, which is exactly what happened in the series. The writers tried to be far too clever or pretend to be ,and ,at the very end ,when viewing figures had collapsed because they had run out of the narritive tricks, they gave us two very disappointing endings. Which is exactly what the next two sequels seem to propose , a film leading directly to Alien, the other going way out there in a different direction, one where spaceships are driven and manned entirely by alien brassbands and not just a single flute player (and I did note the accordian on the Promatheus didn't get much of a squeeze off the Captain, well ,not as much as the one he presumeably gave Vickers to determine if she was a robot or not, and who could blame him.)
The stories that are best remembered are not ones written by audience participation and a concensus of internet opinions. We all view the world in very different ways and ,as evidenced by some of the interpretations of the plotpoints in Prometheus here, very different angles. Now this may work for a TV series where the next season is just a year away, but I should think it won't engage much enthusiasm in an audience ,some of who have already waited thirty odd years for answers and maybe now be a few more away from getting two very different versions.It seems an awfully long time away and interest is likely to tank very rapidly much beyond the first two weeks of release of Prometheus ( with no new weekly episode to add anything to the myth, although we will, surpise/not a surprise, maybe possibly get an extended version at DVD release. How predicatable was that!).
I have to admire how rapidly thats been done and got out there. Buy the DVD and MAYBE there will be some more answers in it. Call me a cynical. But then the speed at which the Prometheus got built, once the starmaps had been discovered, must have broken all records. I'd have guessed a starship like that would have taken YEARS to develop and construct given the trillion dollars spent on it. PS: Oh yeah I forgot to ask? What happened to the Magellan that Ridley mentioned ages back when he said there were two ships in the film.
 
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To be fair, it was partially inspired by several old Giger drawings. There were actually many drawings done on the original Alien of pyramid compounds and only a few are in the art books. Ridley wanted to revisit these ideas. He wanted something along the lines of the sphinx in Egypt.

-S

Huh. You dont say. The sphinx. Hmm. So it was a face with nose and lips and the nose is missing. What a crazy, wacky idea that is. ;)
 
This is all sounding very familiar.

"He seems more concerned with creating his film worlds than populating them with plausible characters, and that's the trouble this time. Blade Runner is a stunningly interesting visual achievement but a failure as a story." - Roger Ebert - June 2, 1982

Well if this movie is even half as good as Blade Runner, then I am sure it is GREAT and I will love it!

The more Prometheus is understood, the more opinions will be revised just as the case was with Blade Runner.
 
So if you don't think this movie is absolutely perfect then youre stupid?, i liked it, but it had a lot of problems, problems that just boil down to bad writing, its turning into a marmite movie it seems for most people, you either love it or you hate it
 
I'd have guessed a starship like that would have taken YEARS to develop and construct given the trillion dollars spent on it. PS: Oh yeah I forgot to ask? What happened to the Magellan that Ridley mentioned ages back when he said there were two ships in the film.

Prometheus wasn't built for the mission, AFAIK; there's backstory stuff saying it's a prospecting ship. I'm sure the art book will make this clearer.

The other ship was the lifeboat, presumably? The Magellan was the original name for the Prometheus. Presumably that same guy who thought Americans wouldn't understand "Philosopher's Stone" had that same panic attack over the reference here. :p

Huh. You dont say. The sphinx. Hmm. So it was a face with nose and lips and the nose is missing. What a crazy, wacky idea that is. ;)

Oh shush, you. :)

The more Prometheus is understood, the more opinions will be revised just as the case was with Blade Runner.

I'm not sure I'd defend it that far. It's a terrible movie, in some (or many) ways. It's just a very enjoyable terrible movie. :lol
 
The more Prometheus is understood, the more opinions will be revised just as the case was with Blade Runner.

The differences between Prometheus and Blade Runner are night and day. And bringing up critical and public reception from Blade Runners release is lost on a great a deal of people who like myself were exposed to Blade Runner without any notion of what the critical reception was yet still found it a smart and robust movie in every area.
Scott is a very different film maker now, a more business-minded and less challenging one - it was obvious before Prometheus but Prometheus just confirms it beyond question.
 
I find it particularly annoying that Lindelof and Ridley are now changing their versions of the Prometheus storyline based on what has actually been written in forums by the audience, post viewing it.
Suddenly its possibly NOT the Earth in the beginning , it could be any planet! WTF!!!!

Was that comment by Ridley so hard to understand? The fact that some people think that would be a revision to something he said previously speaks volume to the subtext that people are completely missing with the movie, or don't want to think about. Everything you need to know to understand the film, love or hate it, is right there in the film.

It does not matter what planet we are seeing in the beginning of the film. It is safe to assume it is the Earth since this story focuses on humans from Earth, and the very next scene is the Prometheus from Earth going through space. The Engineers have done this on other planets. It's what they do. That's all Ridley was saying.

"The movie asks the question, were we created by these beings? And it answers that question very definitively. "

I wonder if 2001 A Space Odyssey were released today, would people think the ape throwing the bone in the air was not from the Earth when the very next scene in 2001 A Space Odyssey was a human space ship? Many people did not get what the one had to do with the other then either. In this day and age, that kind of film would be universally trashed as a stupid and poorly written film that looked great.

After reading some people's comments, I can see why some felt Blade Runner needed narration.

Exactly. Unfortunately it is the nature of films and filmgoers today, much more so that in 1982. Hopefully Prometheus will have some impact to the people who appreciate it, and we will get more.
 
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Agreed; at least that big given the whole thing is around 1000' in length. (SM, care to comment?)

1000 length is correct. No idea what the measure of the curve is offhand. The overall ship is slightly more curved than the original.

-S
 
It's like nobody making this film cared about anything that makes a movie a movie. Characters? Story? Motivation? Resolution? None of these are the highlights of Prometheus. It's like all they had was an idea and in the end that's all they wanted to sell.

"Our movie stands on it's own." my aunt fanny. Is that why your clamoring to make sequels?
 
I still say if he has to go to great lengths to explain the film to us peons he has failed miserably as a director. He has failed to communicate his ideas if he's having to explain them all in his interviews. Maybe he's going senile.
 
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