Prometheus (Post-release)

[Kerr Avon]

Keep in mind the Engineers had been watching humanity develop and knew exactly how they worshipped in all cultures. This "military installation" had a giant icon of the creators head in a central room with a painting on the ceiling like something out of a cathedral, relief sculptures on the wall of xenomorphs, and canisters of the black substance arranged around the head. There was also a bowl sitting on top what looked like an altar. All that stuff was there for a reason.

Also, a big emerald in the center of a table? They paused on it a pretty long time on camera, you'd think it'd have been important somehow. Probably was in one of the other many versions of scripts this movie clearly went through.

 

[Jeyl]

That's the interviewer, not Lindeloff.

Note the dots. Didn't want to quote everything Lindelof said.

 

[Kerr Avon]

Sci-fi.

They're flying in a space ship to other worlds to encounter aliens.

... is erosion really a stretch in that context?

Suspension of disbelief?

Erosion is random. Building spaceships is designed, piloting a space ship is willful, intending to meet aliens is ... intentional.

 

[Bryancd]

If you are not convinced it was Earth by what was presented in the film (I was), then consider that both Damon and Ridley have both said that is Earth in interviews.

I actually think Ridley said it could be Earth or not, that it didn't matter. I think it's clearly Earth and thought that was an odd thing to say, but it's in one of the interviews we have linked previously.

 

[Kit Rae]

Note the dots. Didn't want to quote everything Lindelof said.

Not sure what your point was then? The "interview" was two guys emailing back and forth, having fun. Apparently you missed the jokes

 

[Cameron]

Its interesting how we try to force the aliens thinking/plans into something we can comprehend or find a simile for here on earth. Wouldn't it be great, if for once a movie showed something truly alien. So alien that it was outside of our comprehension and had no comparison to what we humans do. But, with that being said: Why not have a temple loaded with the implements of death and the ships to carry them? The Mayan temples were all about death. Similarly the Pyramids were full of the dead sacrificed bodies of not so willing victims.
Can a movie let Aliens be truly alien and just present them as such? If only!

 

[Kit Rae]

Considering they have the same DNA, they are not so alien in that repspect. They may have even guided mankind culturally, or attempted to do so, since they created life on earth and were apparently monitoring it and visiting the people throughout history. If the premise was that they expected humans to come to that moon eventually, and set it up for that purpose, it is not so alien to assign human interpretations to what they find there, because it was intended for them. If it was not for that purpose, and perhaps the humans did not even go to the correct place or even misinterpreted the "invitation", then there are other reasons for what they find, and it may be truly too alien for them to understand.

 

[Jeyl]

Considering they have the same DNA, they are not so alien in that repspect.

Damon Lindelof. He took the alien out of ALIEN.

 

[Kerr Avon]

Damon Lindelof. He took the alien out of ALIEN.

I don't think Damon Lindelof knows anything about DNA anyway. It's practically magic to him based on his writing.

 

[ghostryder]

What is Going On in 'Prometheus'? A Universe of Questions, Answers and Theories | Rope of Silicon

 

[MooCriket]

Thanks for the entertaining read, Willie!

 

[Scareb]

What if mankind was just another weapon created by the space jockeys? Eventually we grow too powerful and beyond the control of the space jockeys and the only course of action is to destroy them.

 

[Jedi2016]

Out of curiosity, why does everyone blame only Lindelhof for the flaws of the film? Ridley directed it, he made most of the major story decisions. John Spaihts wrote the first draft of the screenplay, Lindelhof didn't throw all that out.. most of what's in the film was there long before Lindelhof came on board. I'd wager it's a lot of the stuff that everyone's complaining about, too.

 

[rodneyfaile]

What flaws?

 

[Kit Rae]

What is Going On in 'Prometheus'? A Universe of Questions, Answers and Theories | Rope of Silicon

Excellent read, and a lot the discussion after it, to be honest, is more interesting that what we have been discussing here.

 

[rodneyfaile]

Everyone having all these discussions is exactly why Prometheuse was made the way it was. It isn't a flaw, it's a gift!

 

[Kit Rae]

Just thought I would post this, considering I have seen a lot of comments about how stupid it was that Vickers and Shaw did not think to run the opposite direction to where the ship was rolling, then falling on them.

Here are a few pix of the original Engineer ship from Alien. Look at the entrance holes in relation to the height of the ship for a reference to when it was rolling.

Now look at the scale of a person to those holes.

The width of the curved part of the horseshsoe was probably 120'-140' (assuming the ship in Prometheus is a similar scale, and it appeared to be from the hologram). imagine a tire that wide rolling almost over you. It would blot out most of the sky you see, and be hard to determine (on the run, in a space suit, on drugs, right after having your abdomen sliced open, with smoke and crashing debris all around you) which way, left or right, would be closer to being out of it's path.

Then once it stopped rolling and started to fall over, the width of the horseshoe arms was probably 100-110'. That may not seem as bad, but it does not appear they were actually that far away from the curved base to where just an arm was crashing down from above. From their perspective, what was falling from above probably looked eve wider than when it was rolling, but both attempted to get out from under it. It was just too wide and they were not fast enough to do so.

 

[SmilingOtter]

Everyone having all these discussions is exactly why Prometheuse was made the way it was. It isn't a flaw, it's a gift!

Well then, thanks Ridley and Damon, for giving us so many incompetent characters - I felt so much smarter than most of the ship's crew.

Thanks for reminding me of one of my favorite childhood tv shows - "Now, let's pull the mask off the creepy bio-mechanical pilot and... hey! It was old man Engineer all this time!"

 

[terryr]

Jinkeys!!

So that 8 wheel thing is the Mystery Machine.

And they do run in straight lines.

 

[messfx]

When I first noticed this in the trailer I knew I'd seen it before and here it is.



Here's the info,
It was concept art of the the Harkonnen castle/palace type thing produced for Alejandro Jodorowsky’s sadly never-produced version of Frank Herbert’s Dune

To be fair, it was partially inspired by several old Giger drawings. There were actually many drawings done on the original Alien of pyramid compounds and only a few are in the art books. Ridley wanted to revisit these ideas. He wanted something along the lines of the sphinx in Egypt.

-S