Princess Bride Goblets - opinions about details?

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  1. Kestre

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    I'm hoping to have a pair of goblets from the Princess Bride made. Currently, I have a potter who is interested in trying to make these with a metallic glaze. Another option might be to mold and cast it afterwards with a metal powder. You can see what is probably the mold line in the screen caps.

    But first I need to decide on some measurements. So I was hoping you guys could help me out! Here is one screen cap of the goblets:

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    And here is another:

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    - How many divisions on the top half of the goblet? 6 I think. You can tell that the button detail is alternating sizes (larger/smaller) as is the vertical line.

    - Should the bottom half of the cup be darker than the top half? It seems that way in most shots, but there's one shot where it seems to be the same shade. So is that a trick of the light? It seems to be indented, at least.

    - What is that detail between the cup and the stem? I've watched the scene several times on my DVD but can't make it out. Seems like another leaf shape?

    - How many leaves along the bottom of the cup? I think 8.

    - What should be the height of the goblet? The width? Ratio of cup to stem? The handy wine glass in my house is 6.75" which seems reasonable. The width at the stem appears to be about 20% wider than the mouth of the cup. When the goblet is sitting next to the wine bottle, it's a little over half the height of the wine bottle.

    Anyone want to give their input? I'd appreciate assistance to get this right!
     
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  2. greylocke

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    Can't help much with size, but I've seen pewter goblets similar to those in the Museum Replica's catalog a few year back. You might check to see if they might have them still or if they have the name of their supplier so you could contact them for dimensions and such.
     
  3. cavx

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    If someone has the Blu-ray, you might get some better images and bit more detail. I love this film, but have not bought the BD yet.
     
  4. Contec

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    It looks more like 6 leaf's if you are talking about those that are down the bottom.

    like this :
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    The 0 is the leafs.
     
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  5. Kestre

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    Yeah blu-ray caps would be very helpful if possible. Those caps above are from an avi because it was easier to get those. I have the SE DVD but couldn't make out more useful details.

    You think 6 leaves? You can see 5 around on the bottom photo. You think there's only one more hidden behind? Might be right.
     
  6. PropsGallore

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    "Now Let's Drink! You from your glass and me, from mine!"
     
  7. Riceball

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    I second the notion of 6 leaves, there's definitely too much room in the part facing away from the camera to not have a leaf and just be blank.
     
  8. Shylaah

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    I don't know about everyone else, but I gotta have a wall full of ref pics before I start guessing on the measurements of anything. Even then I make a lot of errors!? :)

    I'm not familiar with this movie, but found a place that had some pretty good screen caps. Not as many angles as I'd like to see, but perhaps there are more out there. Here are some of the screen caps cropped and re-sized just as samples of what's there. Links to these full size and more images on leavemethewhite.com at the end of this post. Hope these help.

    Shylaah


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    Screencaps - The Princess Bride

    http://www.leavemethewhite.com/caps/displayimage.php?album=122&pos=314
    http://www.leavemethewhite.com/caps/displayimage.php?album=122&pos=323
    http://www.leavemethewhite.com/caps/displayimage.php?album=122&pos=307
    http://www.leavemethewhite.com/caps/displayimage.php?album=122&pos=310
    http://www.leavemethewhite.com/caps/displayimage.php?album=122&pos=313
    http://www.leavemethewhite.com/caps/displayimage.php?album=122&pos=314
    http://www.leavemethewhite.com/caps/displayimage.php?album=122&pos=319
    http://www.leavemethewhite.com/caps/displayimage.php?album=122&pos=323
    http://www.leavemethewhite.com/caps/displayimage.php?album=122&pos=326
    http://www.leavemethewhite.com/caps/displayimage.php?album=122&pos=331
    http://www.leavemethewhite.com/caps/displayimage.php?album=122&pos=332
    http://www.leavemethewhite.com/caps/displayimage.php?album=122&pos=334
    http://www.leavemethewhite.com/caps/displayimage.php?album=122&pos=335
    http://www.leavemethewhite.com/caps/displayimage.php?album=122&pos=336
    http://www.leavemethewhite.com/caps/displayimage.php?album=122&pos=338
    http://www.leavemethewhite.com/caps/displayimage.php?album=122&pos=339
    http://www.leavemethewhite.com/caps/displayimage.php?album=122&pos=347
    http://www.leavemethewhite.com/caps/displayimage.php?album=122&pos=351
     
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  9. epilepticsquirl

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    Inconceivable!!!

    Sorry, just had to. :behave :lol
     
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  10. MooCriket

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  11. Contec

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    Maybe this drawing will make it more clear for you.... All of the leaf that you can see has a button above it..then you just draw lines right across the cup and get the opposite button and leaf.. Thus only 6 leaf.

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  12. Kestre

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    Nice, contec. Makes me feel much more confident about going with 6 for both. I also appreciate the screencaps that shylaah provided. Except shylaah really should see the movie :)

    It's shot 323 that makes me not quite convinced that there's a different coloration for the bottom half of the cup section.
     
  13. Wickerness

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    Those goblets would be awesome! I can't wait to see some progress pics once you get this project started.
     
  14. Nintendophile

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    The goblets are definitely all one color. The bottom half of the goblet is deeply recessed, so it's shadowed. I'll try to see if I can make a drawing that explains this a little better...
     
  15. Kestre

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    Oh I agree it's recessed, but I'm glad you agree it's in one color.
     
  16. GuyWithQuestion

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    Hey folks, found this place linked through Google images after I re watched the movie Princess Bride for about the 10th time. but I had previously never noticed the goblets. Just so happens I've got one... Have had it for as long as I can remember and would like to know what you guys think of it.
    The Goblet - Imgur
     
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  17. shamgar1981

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    GuyWithQuestion, thats amazing that you have one. Do you think you could give us any details on it? Dimensions, material, any makers marks? I'm curious if they were pewter or painted ceramic myself. Where did you acquire it if you remember? Is it something that you would be willing to part with? I know I would love to have a pair of them myself :) What I think would be cool is if this is a one of a kind and not a licensed item to get a 3d scan of it and see if we could arrange a 3d printed/lost wax copy to be made for casting copys.
     
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  19. shamgar1981

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    Sorry for bringing up a dead post but I found some more details.

    Today I was doing an internet search and guess what showed up as the second picture under the image options.

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    I followed the links through pintrest to an etsy listing

    https://www.etsy.com/listing/159396192/cast-metal-wine-goblets-castle-decor?ref=hp_mod_rf


    Unfortunitly they sold last year sometime so I wasn't able to aquire them, but it did provide a few more pictures and the size. 6-3/4" tall X 3-1/2" in diameter

    a few more pics and the search continues. I am determined to have a pair of these one day, wither I purchase them or make them myself.

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  20. Goodwolf

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    I would imagine something could be whipped up and 3d printed using that information.
     
  21. shamgar1981

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    Found another example, Unfortunitly its of another sale from over a year ago. Uploading the pictures for posterity.

    I'm afraid my talents don't lie in the 3d modeling area. If I could find someone that would do it on commission I would be interested in talking. Everything else I think I can handle. The end goal would be to have a model created, then a mold, and finally a pewter version cast. Other then that I am just going to keep watching ebay and hoping.

    http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/medieval-pewter-goblet-535301248

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  22. alloccosol

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    Just curious if there has been any updates on this at all or if anyone figured out where to get these or make these or found anything like is close looking that can be purchased anywhere?..
     
  23. zenix

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    Oh I meant to work on this but forgot. I'm going to make these in pewter.
     
  24. shamgar1981

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    Whats your plan zenix? lost wax/pla? free sculpting the first one or 3d modeling? willing to make extras?
     
  25. zenix

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    We'll see what it takes.

    CAD model, > print > smooth > high-temp mold rubber > pour pewter into mold.

    Here's where I'm up to so far.

    sketch1.PNG sketch2.PNG
     
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  26. zenix

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    I'll get it printed out in the next few days
    goblet.PNG
     
  27. zenix

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    via pm, shamgar1981 pointed out to me that the top 6 circles aren't actually the same size, so I've made that adjustment:

    goblet2.PNG
     
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  28. shamgar1981

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    Looking great!, glad I could help. You have no idea how excited I am to see this project progress.
     
  29. MWiggs

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    That's looking fantastic! Can't wait to see it printed/cast. Any chance of you sharing for 3d file? ;)
    Best of luck on the build!
     
  30. zenix

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  31. Odin82

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    I'll take 4 please! Savage work man.
     
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  32. shamgar1981

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    I'm staring gape mouthed, this is amazing, great job zenix
     
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  34. shamgar1981

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    Judging from the can of spray on primer in the background I am guessing this is the 3d printed version with a coat of primer to smooth it out in prep for making a mold to cast the pewter one in.
     
  35. sonicfreak04

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    will the castings be food safe?
     
  36. zenix

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    Yup, lead free pewter

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  37. Stivie

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    Put me down as interested! These look awesome!
     
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  38. zenix

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    This isn't an interest thread. I'm not saying I am or am not going to make them for others. I'm just making them and we'll see what happens

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  39. zenix

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    the base on mine is too small by nearly 1/2", and the 3 small circles under the cup are the wrong shape. I'm tweaking that now, as well adding a post and socket internally inside the stem so I can use that structure to line up top and bottom halves. I've got it split into two for easier printability without the need for supports.
     
  40. zenix

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    updated version:

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    It has the ribs adjusted to the right thicknesses, the lower 3 circles have been adjusted to match better, and I've expanded the base to be the right size. The stem has a post in it so it clips in better.
     
  41. shamgar1981

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    So any updates on the printing and molding zenix?
     
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  42. zenix

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  43. zenix

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    This is for a different project.... Lol sorry. Ya I'm working on making the mold for the goblets

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  44. zenix

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  45. zenix

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  46. Moviefreak

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    Did this thread get hijacked from the original poster and turned into another person's build thread? :lol
     
  47. zenix

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    Eeehhhh yeah... I should start my own

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  48. shamgar1981

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    well, since the original post was over 5 years ago............
     
  49. Moviefreak

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    I was just joking. As stated, it was so long ago the OP probably would not even care. ;)
     
  50. Trooper_trent

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    Please tell me you're doing a run of these. My wife LOVES this movie.
     
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