To me this is why movies are not scary anymore. Everyone wants to take it one step farther to make them scary again and we have seen so much out of movies in the past that I dont know if a pred movie could be scary. Hell the first one wasnt scary when I watched it for the first time when I was like 5. It was a cool action movie with an alien in it. Not a thing scared me so I dont know why some poeple think the pred should be scary. Skullspliter asked to make Predator scary again and i dont think that is possible. The reason I say that is if you use tatics such as these it takes it from being a scifi action movie to being horror/gore and that is not any better and it crosses into a different style of movie which it would be a crappy version of. Kind of how AVP went more scifi than it did action scifi. It went so far into the scifi side that it was a bad scifi movie and a bad action film.
It has always been my belief that they skin them after they are dead? So the before described scene wouldnt make since. That takes all ideas of honor or morality that the preds have away. Because that touches on sadistic torturing.
It is possible, only nowadays many directors choose not for suspense, but for shock and awe. I like the former, but we get the latter. I don't want to see it like Silent Hill-skin-shredding, but like agony, terror, suggested gore instead of on screen. It made the first Saw infinitely better than all those that came afterwards (I stopped after the second one because it made the fundamental mistake not to rely on suspense but rather increasing steps of sickness).
There is no sense of threat if there's a big monster storming straight at you. But let's go back to 2004, the first couple of episodes of Lost, and all those tree's were shaking with the booming sound in the jungle. The what the **** moment. It worked. And even later, when we knew it was smoke, the directors chose to make it threatening, taking it's time before it attacked. Few of those scenes in last 4 alien and/or predator installments.
I think seeing a guy being thrown to the ground and having his spine and skull ripped out while he was still alive was more than enough for me (Predators).First of all the prey would have to have been killed. Unless of course they are pushing the insane hunter angle. The reason the prey would have to be killed is basic hunter ethics. Clean kills are the most respected. I think they should do it but not show it entirely. You know extreme close ups of different body parts, to the degree that the viewer can just barely identify them, and having the skin slowly peeled back. Maybe a couple blade penitration shots and bloody hands but with the fully skun body only revealed in heavy shadow, especially if the body was of a known character in the story. Perhaps a piece of jewelry or other identifing item shown similar to Danny's necklace in P2. I honestly think that the ultimate direction for a Predator mivie would be to almost hybridize P1 with a Hellraiser flick. I know its not incredably popular idea but there has been so much done to make the preds into heros or at least protagonists already. They were ment to be monsters...time to show them aas such.
Real life hunters skin their prey after catching them (deer, rabbits, etc.), and the predators in the movies skinned people and hung them from trees. Doesn't make it a slasher flick. Which makes me wonder...why do the predators skin the people? Do they eat the skin? Is it scare tactics? I pretty sure they don't keep skin as trophies.I dunno. Predator is supposed to be a hunter, not a slasher or serial killer.
I'd hate to see things move towards the standard boring slasher flick.
The skinning i dont think would be suspenseful personally. It would lend more toward the horror genre and I hated Saw. It was terrible IMO. I got a lot of friends that lvoe it but they liked the first Hostel too tho. I just dont want the predator franchise to go that way. I know we can have different ideas. I dont think the pred as a killer just to be a killer. I think he is a hunter? Me growing up as a hunter and around hunters dont really think of a hunter as someone or something that skins its prey alive. That sadistic.... Unless you do a bad blood of coarse then it could possibly work.
The examples you give are good examples but I dont think we can achieve that in a pred or alien movie. The reason being is that we will be expecting whats making all the ruckus. That WTF moment wont be there because we will be like its a pred. I guess with enough good writing you might get something of a ooohhhhh I wonder if they are gonna make it or not?