Penny Dreadful

I DVRed it but I am waiting to get 2 or 3 episodes in before I watch them--one hour is just not enough.
 
So far, an interesting start for Season 2. The naked chicks attacking the carriage was surprising. Kinda wondering how that's going to play out for the season. Like the tie-in with one particular character from Season 1 coming back as an antagonist for Season 2 (Note: I am not really sharing spoilers, as I'm not sharing the name or details). I've got a feeling that things with Frankenstein is getting really weird, and I've got a feeling that the Creature's Bride is gonna end up being his instead. And with the Creature, I've got a feeling things are going to backfire drastically with the creature's hiring at the wax museum.
 
I'm liking season 2 so far, but in some aspects it's turned into the Vanessa Ives show.:lol She's clearly the main focus yet again. I'd like more balance between her, Chandler, Gray and Frankenstein. Still has my attention and I still think the design and acting are top-notch. As for gratuitous sex and nudity, this show has NOTHING on Game of Thrones in that arena.
 
Well she IS the centerpoint of it all as this last - and AMAZING - Episode showed. The only thing that threw me off was that Lord Whatshisface the land owner looked a lot
like Mel Brooks as President Skroob in spaceballs.
 
Hi Guys,

We're planning a Penny Dreadful halloween party , anybody has some links to some paper replica props or some stuff that could help ? any suggestions , ideas are more than welcome :)
 
Anyone still watching? Brona/Lilly really delivered in her scene with "the monster." What will happen inside the castle next week?
 
I watch it every other week. That way I have two new episodes and I just make a movie out of it--popcorn, lights out, surround sound, the whole works. I love this show!!!


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I'm kind of confused on on how the Lilly figured out that she was an undead creation? She just had sex with that middle aged guy, killed him and then she knew?

And what is Victor addicted to? Is it heroin or morphine? I never picked up on him being a junkie before. Was that ever shown before?
 
jheilman said:
Anyone still watching?
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Yeah, but I'm really not sure why. Not that I need wall-to-wall action, but who would have thought a television series including Dorian Gray, Dr. Frankenstein and two of his creations, a werewolf, witches, the devil, and whatever Vanessa Ives is, would be so slow-moving?

Laspector said:
Spoiler alert!.....

I'm kind of confused on on how the Lilly figured out that she was an undead creation? She just had sex with that middle aged guy, killed him and then she knew?
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I think she has known since almost immediately after her reanimation, and has been playing dumb.

Laspector said:
And what is Victor addicted to? Is it heroin or morphine? I never picked up on him being a junkie before. Was that ever shown before?
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I would think morphine would be easier for a doctor to obtain, so that's my guess. If they have shown or hinted at that before, I missed it.
 
I'm fine with the pacing. But I think we'll get more action next episode. Is next week the season finale? Last season had 8 episodes and Sunday will be the 10th episode of season 2?
 
Laspector said:
I'm kind of confused on on how the Lilly figured out that she was an undead creation? She just had sex with that middle aged guy, killed him and then she knew?
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I too get the sense that at some level, she always knew. I did really love her tirade against the creature. You enter that scene with expectations. The monster will make demands, she'll refuse, he'll get angered and try to take her. She'll cower in terror. But no, she totally, and frighteningly, turned it on its head and became the one to fear.

Will the wolf of heaven sacrifice himself to protect Vanessa? How can Ethan/Laurence continue now that he has been exposed by police, killed Sembene and conspired with Vanessa to murder one of his former victims. OK, the guy had it coming. I hope Mr. Lyle makes it out alive. As peculiar as he is, he's a favorite of mine. His character is a scene stealer.
 
OK, thanks. IMDB has a slot open for season 3, so I guess we get more next year? This is one of my favorite shows. Penny Dreadful, Game of Thrones and True Detective, although season 2 of TD is making me miss Rust and Marty.
 
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OK, thanks. IMDB has a slot open for season 3, so I guess we get more next year?
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I haven't heard or read anything official, but I assume there will be a third season. I think there are currently too many plot lines to tie up in only one episode.
 
Agreed. I would really like the Vanessa/master arc to conclude this Sunday. That would leave it open to explore more Ethan, Frankenstein, Dorian, etc. That's assuming all of them survive, which they may not. Or, assuming Vanessa survives. Anyway, if there is a season 3, I'd like it to move into new territory.

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WOW, Penny Dreadful is at 100% approval on rottentomatoes. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/penny-dreadful/s02/ But, with further review, it's only 18 reviewers. Still a consensus, but not as big as I thought.

And yes, there will be a season 3. http://showtimeallaccess.tumblr.com/post/121682623322/were-thrilled-to-announce-that-our
 
And, now the wait till season 3 next year.

I'm confused a bit by Frankenstein's creations. Was the original monster (from the book and the original films) considered immortal? I never got that, so is this something new? I always understood that the doctor was reanimating dead tissue, but that's bringing it back to life. If it is now alive, it requires those organs to function to continue life like the rest of us, yes? Apparently, these new creations are as undead as zombies, in a sense.

I'm not sure how I feel about Vanessa's final confrontation against... a doll. Creepy in one sense. And, any realization of the demon would probably have been disappointing. If the scorpions represent the heart of the fallen one, what does it say that one has now melded with Vanessa?

I was literally wishing for exactly what happened when Mr. Clare made his jail-break. :D

So, everyone is on a separate path now. I must admit that Vanessa's final conversation with Mr. Clare brought a tear to my eye.
 
Season 3 would be awesome if the whole thing is Victor trying repeatedly to kill Lilly and Dorian, using lots of orders from the Acme company.
 
jheilman said:
...I'm confused a bit by Frankenstein's creations. Was the original monster (from the book and the original films) considered immortal? I never got that, so is this something new?
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I haven't seen the most recent episode yet, so keep that in mind.

It's been a long time since I've read the novel, but as best I can remember there were no definitive statements that Frankenstein's creation was immortal. Tough and impervious to almost everything, and I think it believed it was immortal, but I think that was left to the readers' interpretation. As for the original movies, in Son of Frankenstein the "monster" had lapsed into a coma after having been struck by lightning, so that implies it can be killed if enough physical trauma is inflicted upon it. But considering the number of times the "monster" died at the end of one movie and was resurrected for the next, who knows?

But we all know how this stuff works. Any given creature--werewolves, vampires, zombies, etc.--have whatever capabilities the storyteller wants them to have. Someone could produce another Frankenstein movie and state the Creature is definitely immortal, and another could produce one five years later and obliterate the Creature by vaporizing it with a nuclear warhead. As long as there's a buck to be made, Frankenstein's creation will live.
 
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Vanessa has certainly established her place in the supernatural hierarchy. She's top dog. She can defeat satan with words. So, moving forward, what does she choose to do? Looking forward to season 3.
 
jheilman said:
Vanessa has certainly established her place in the supernatural hierarchy. She's top dog. She can defeat satan with words. So, moving forward, what does she choose to do? Looking forward to season 3.
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Technically, Vanessa defeated one of Satan's arrogant underlings who thought she had things under control; Satan himself hasn't yet made an appearance. I'm guessing there will be more of that in Season 3 simply because the writers appear to be under the impression that Vanessa is the most interesting character in the show.
 
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