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[youngnpred]

hey everyone. This will be the start of my first predator sculpture (yay!) I want to create something of my own, but still reminiscent of the predator. Im hoping to go for a closed mouth. However, im having some trouble. Im not sure where to go from here or how to do it. I posted pics so you can see the progress so far. Let me know what you think; good? bad? or just plain ugly. I really appreciate all of your critisims (and praise if any). please feel free to tell me what you honestly think even if you flat out think i should just start over. I would love tips on what to do and any other suggestions. Like i said, although im making my own version of the pred, it still needs to look like a predator.

thanks again, joshua

so far ive just done the rough structure ps the inner mouth isnt complete lol

 

[Obraxis]

Looking good so far, maybe look up other sculpting threads to see how they did it.

Kepp it up

 

[Usurper]

More sculpts woohoooooo

Either way closed or open mouth, the chin needs to be alot smaller ( unless you are going for a Scar tye pred ) just get your 1st stage rough shapes worked out that you are happy with , then you can start on getting the symetry sorted, although NOTHING and NO ones face is perfectly symetrical, so do not go overboard trying to make the left as perfect as the right side etc. just close and no huge diffrences.

do you have any drawings of the kind of pred you are aiming for? easier to advise if we see what you are aiming for.

 

[crawjaw]

Congratualtions on getting started as many folks dream of making their own Predator but never get round to it.
Difficult to advise how to proceed without concept pictures but I agree with Usurper that the chin is a bit big.
It all depends how far removed you want to be from the classical Predator form.

Once the basic shape is established I personally wouldn't tinker too much with the mandibles as these are one of his signature features.
May be play around with the crown and dreds or create a real mean looking stare.
Best bit of advice I can give you is get masses of pictures for reference and use these for guidance.

Mind you I haven't completed my own so my advise may be not worth much.

 

[pdisc]

looking good

 

[youngnpred]

oh no, all advise is welcome! The chin you say? i definately agree. ill decrease the size of that. well, i have one picture that i drew for the design, but im not 100 percent sure if I should do that. Here are some pics of it, its sort of like a 'gilman pred' (i wanted it to have some P2 pizzaz). i appologize for the bad quality pics, i dont have a sccanner so i had to try to take them with my camera and camera phone.

(edit)

 

[Xalener]

You only had to take one picture

 

[youngnpred]

hahaha sorry, i didnt think you could see it. lol
but i fixed it haha

heres another update. I decreased the size of the chin and started the mandibles.

 

[BadbloodNC]

Here's just a thought.

When facing the model, I think the right brow is very straight, while the left brow has a curve to it and seems to sit alittle higher than the other.

I also think that the center of the head, and the crests on the outside, seem to have a very sharp angle than a smoother transition.

Otherwise, I think it's running along great. I guess those two comments are more symmetrical points of view, but like it was posted before, get your rough shapes in first. Looking good sir!

 

[Usurper]

Chin is stilll HUGE.

I suggest ripping off the mandibles and getting your major shapes done.

 

[youngnpred]

oh okay, i see what you mean about the eyebrows, and ill see what i can do about the smooth transition.

still too big of a chin??
now do you mean in width? or just all-together?

 

[frosty]

I agree with what others have said, your a bit lop sided when you look at it head on, the chin does look pretty big,maybe leave the mandibles of till you get your symetry right.
good luck with it, your of to a good start

 

[youngnpred]

okay, so i decreased the chin once again. both in width and length. I also, reworked the crown to make it a little more symmetrical, as well as the brows. I also made the crown transitions a little smoother as it was mentioned it was a little rough. I think its at a pretty good point right now. Im going to redo the mandibles (because i thionk i got the shape right) (just so i continue with the progress). I will post a pic as soon as i can, so you can let me know if its still off or what.
thanks guys

 

[BadbloodNC]

looking forward to seeing it!

 

[Usurper]

If you go by the 1st 2 preds for facial sizing, they both had pretty small chins, yours is still 50% too big in width and depth in my opinion.

 

[INFERNAL PREDATOR]

if u make the eyes a little less wide,lower the angle of the eyebrows, make the eyes wider apart and flatten the dome a bit u have urself a good sculpt for casting

 

[youngnpred]

hey everyone, i havnt taken any new pic because my sis borrowed the camera on her trip to sacremento.
but im having a terrible time with wrinkles. any tips?
i remember there was a how to forum on it, but i cant find it.

 

[Xalener]

http://www.theeffectslab.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10057

 

[youngnpred]

thanks xalener! im going to have to try some of those techniques.
but for now, heres an update. as you can see its still rough. the bumps on his head i put on to make it a little more organic. (note they are not symmetrical; as i intended) The wrinkles i was trying out, im not sure if i like them, so im going to retry them
anyways here we go. Oh! also, the teeth in the mouth were just for reference. hopefuilly i can get a set of P2 teeth somewhere?

sorry for the bad quality. the top of the crown has been texturized. i forgot to mention that. and i realize the nose lining is lopsided (oops )
thanks josh

 

[Unforgiven Hunter]

Are you sculpting in water-based clay?

-Chris