ORCA scratch build

[flimzy]

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So, are you thinking the (brass?) hook protruding on the left would hook into the hasp slot? I would not assume so, because when the hasp is hooked that way, the door can still swing away from the wall, and not remain fully open (plus the banging in high seas).

Perhaps that is what was done/intended, but it does not fit with what I would consider "reality", which we all know this is not...


Food for thought, I guess. I suspect the brass hook serves some other purpose- perhaps to hold the table up, or... who knows, since it was a modified vessel. Its purpose may have been eliminated in the conversion, but the detail remained?

I’m not thinking it , it lines up exactly with the hole in the hasp and the tide clock would prevent anything else from hooking in it. I’m pretty sure from the reverse shots the all the timber work wasn’t from the warlock.
But thank you for questioning it as it made me test the theory. I took the frame and camera aligned it the best I could But when I dropped my model in it lined up perfectly apart from I'd got the tide clock slightly too low. easy fix.

if you look close the hook is screwed on off center of the timber edging to make it line up. Like something you would coble together to fix a problem. What we call in Set Dressing as adding personality to a Set.

 

[joberg]

^^
This! The set decorators did a wonderful job making sure that those small details did actually serve a logical purpose.
While facing the doors, the left hook is securing the latch. The right hook is securing the other one and going through a ring hook affixed on the door (upper right hand side of the door) as to not bang on the instruments.

 

[ID10T]

I just don't see how that hook could latch and hold the padlock hasp. The other side is clear. (and why not use a similar solution of the opposite side?)

Anyway, carry on! It's just a movie! No one is going to notice, right? Right?

 

[flimzy]

when back to grab another image and 1 frame on 1 frame.

these must be after they removed the tide clock . you see the screw holes later.

 

[ID10T]

Extreme left of the top photo above: I see the hasp is out, but I can't see if the brass hook is capturing it with that net there and being right on the edge of the frame...

 

[flimzy]

“The process starts upon the supposition that when you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. It may be that several explanations remain, in which case one tries test after test until one or other of them has a convincing amount of support.” –The Adventure of the Blanched Soldier, Sherlock Holmes.

None of these things are knowable, everything I am doing could be totally wrong based on assumptions made early on. Recreating a lost object
is a detective story, I think that's why we all have so much fun doing it. I got so much wrong on my first go, it didn't spoil the fun but every now and then you get something right, Like the "General Foam and Plastic Crop, Hot n cooler water bottle" or when the guy making the full size ORCA
found the handle for the spot light that give you a warm feeling in side. like in all scientific endeavors we go with a theory until another hypothesis is proven.

 

[joberg]

Extreme left of the top photo above: I see the hasp is out, but I can't see if the brass hook is capturing it with that net there and being right on the edge of the frame...

It's not hooked on the edge of the door frame, it's hooking the open latch part

 

[ID10T]

I couldn't determine, from that photo, if it's hooked on anything, which is why I brought it up.

Rather odd to mix brass and steel parts on a ship, but I get it was adapted and they used what they had probably... It might have been a different door originally- who knows?

 

[joberg]

I couldn't determine, from that photo, if it's hooked on anything, which is why I brought it up.

Rather odd to mix brass and steel parts on a ship, but I get it was adapted and they used what they had probably... It might have been a different door originally- who knows?

This cabin is rather eclectic in style/design. The set designers probably made the decision of making it that way; transformations along the years, replacement of latches/hooks and the likes. Some of different models or makes. Like in the real world

 

[flimzy]

on to a tricky one I've models the window but working out the construction is a brain tease as the inner and out seam to line up not leaving a glass
shadow, Think I've got it this time but I'll look again and change my mind tomorrow ;-)

 

[flimzy]

another mistake I bought over from my first build that I hadn't noticed is I assumed the window where all the same but I could make the plank count from the inside work until I made the rear window 32" which work with the cooker

so I rough look and it might be true. which would explain why in some calculations the winds work out to be 30" this would make the frame right.

 

[DCN]

another mistake I bought over from my first build that I hadn't noticed is I assumed the window where all the same but I could make the plank count from the inside work until I made the rear window 32" which work with the cookerView attachment 1793319
so I rough look and it might be true. which would explain why in some calculations the winds work out to be 30" this would make the frame right.

All these calculations! A model, Yes, but if you are thinking of building a full scale boat it wouldn't shock me. I truly believe you know Orca better than anyone who has ever modeled her. I know you love it!
Hey, been thinking, model boat group starts meeting in May? Are you still having a go at the R/C shark?

 

[DCN]

I think I found these on Orca Rebuild a few years ago, If they help.

 

[flimzy]

All these calculations! A model, Yes, but if you are thinking of building a full scale boat it wouldn't shock me. I truly believe you know Orca better than anyone who has ever modeled her. I know you love it!
Hey, been thinking, model boat group starts meeting in May? Are you still having a go at the R/C shark?

yep shark/ mini Bruce is still on the go I'm just waiting till I go back to work because the silicone is on the expensive side. I wouldn't say I know it any better than anyone else making a model or a full size version. None of us can definitively prove we've got any of it right, its just really fun having a go.
I went to Universal studios in 1990 and saw what was left of the ORCA but didn't think I'd one day make a model of it.

 

[joberg]

Great detective work flimzy

 

[flimzy]

you gave me an idea to test

I could get the lens right there not enough straight line information in the shot as all the shots inside the cabin where wide angle anamorphic
lens's

 

[Lt Washburn]

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How come there are two sets of reflections in the windows?

 

[flimzy]

How come there are two sets of reflections in the windows?

very interesting question :-/ I have no idea.

 

[ID10T]

Double-pane glass?

 

[joberg]

very interesting question :-/ I have no idea.

Seems that it's a two-pane glass window