ORCA scratch build
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well, I might have to sell version 1 to make room for version 2 so someone in America might buy it.
Waiting for clay to turn up to mold Bruce. underwater motors and drivers turned up today. I've got to talk to one of the submarine guys about
receivers and aerial. I could put it in the barrel if I have to. So I've got a few days to keep fiddling with ORCA V2
joberg
Legendary Member
probable but do you really what to hang around for version 2 as version 1 took me 5 years to finish?So, in that same thought; you're going to sell version 1 of the Spinner?
It's not clear but the silver stick with the white blob on it is adjustable ballast All the black is steel is going to be very bottom-heavy as I'm using a foam skinned silicone and the acrylic tube is 100 by 300 so it's going to take quite a bit to make him sink to fin height.
I've gone away from making him like a model submarine and gone with neutral buoyancy with a guide plain set so the faster he goes the more
he sinks, that way if I lose him I just stop and his fin pops up. But like all these things it works in your head until it hits the water.
Just on another note. Working animatronics out on the computer is an amazing thing totally not necessary as for year at Henson's creature shop
We would just sit at our desks with lolly stick and super glue or a bit of paper from the photocopier. (After all these years I can admit it, yes it was
me taking paper from the copier.) I can't imagine the workshop back then with us all using laptops. I mostly use intuition based on past experience
Silicon is not my favorite material for creatures as it is hard to paint, hair punch, and repair but I did make 2 crocodiles where the mech in the tail was a umatic ram pushing a polypropylene tail shape cruddy side to side but by the time it was cast in solid silicone and put in water the movement
was damped down so much it looked so organic. And I seem to remember the killer whales in Free Willy were done like that now I think of it. the guys that made them were Gienius's. Computers are great but you can't beat practical for practical things. Bruce gets a lot of stick but all the theories behind the design should have worked and would have worked in fresh water. Saltwater added to tides ooh it gives me shivers just thinking about it, One leaky valve or fixture that you can't see even if everything else is working fine and you're screwed. A film crew will wait for hours if the camera is down or the lighting is not right and not say anything but if a prop doesn't work you get scorn.
We would just sit at our desks with lolly stick and super glue or a bit of paper from the photocopier. (After all these years I can admit it, yes it was
me taking paper from the copier.) I can't imagine the workshop back then with us all using laptops. I mostly use intuition based on past experience
Silicon is not my favorite material for creatures as it is hard to paint, hair punch, and repair but I did make 2 crocodiles where the mech in the tail was a umatic ram pushing a polypropylene tail shape cruddy side to side but by the time it was cast in solid silicone and put in water the movement
was damped down so much it looked so organic. And I seem to remember the killer whales in Free Willy were done like that now I think of it. the guys that made them were Gienius's. Computers are great but you can't beat practical for practical things. Bruce gets a lot of stick but all the theories behind the design should have worked and would have worked in fresh water. Saltwater added to tides ooh it gives me shivers just thinking about it, One leaky valve or fixture that you can't see even if everything else is working fine and you're screwed. A film crew will wait for hours if the camera is down or the lighting is not right and not say anything but if a prop doesn't work you get scorn.
joberg
Legendary Member
Ok I'll keep you in mindI might win the lottery in 5 years...so, YES!
DCN
Sr Member
There is a lot of history and knowledge in that post.
The "Guts" of this build literally, is going to be so interesting to watch you build.
Don't put Quint in his mouth and break the jaw like John Milius and George Lucas did on the real shark. LoL
2 things arrived today in the post. 300mm long 100mm acrylic tube for bruce. and this old thing from eBay that needs its dial plate put back the right way and maybe I'll spray it black, but I can CAD it up and finally know the exact dimension of the shelf it sits on. One more real object to confirm my new Model.
I was just thinking rather than spray this black I could take it apart and mold the components. and cast them in ONIX remake the stickers stick an Arduino in with the sound from Steven Spielberg. then I can keep this one in its original condition. first used according to its logbook in 1967.
I love the way things used to be designed as fixable objects. even the manual shows you how to take it apart. Take that Apple with you anti repare
mentality
I love the way things used to be designed as fixable objects. even the manual shows you how to take it apart. Take that Apple with you anti repare
mentality
joberg
Legendary Member
well blow me sideways your right it was a white-on-painted black. I know they made a black version. Or is the black version factory-painted white plastic ? the white one has black painted part so it would make sense from a production point of view. I know when we get multiples of things to blow up we sometimes can't get them all the same colour so paint them to match. just found out the black version has a white speaker grill so it was painted in one way or the other.
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