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The fact that I've enjoyed and even loved certain episodes or aspects of this show is a testament to the care and thought that went into it. Despite my criticisms it's not bad.
Well, I guess if you like having a fun ride, being entertained, and having iconic Star Wars characters meet your expectations, then The Mandalorian is, indeed, the show for you.
Some of us, however, like to have our expectations subverted and to be given soul-crushing disappointment in our Star Wars experiences; The Sequel Trilogy delivered this so much better than The Mandalorian. As a matter of fact, in that sense, The Mandalorian didn’t even try—I dare anyone to try to have that argument with me.
So, yeah, if you like receiving exactly the tasty meal you ordered, leaving with your belly full, and your appetite thoroughly satisfied, then The Mandalorian is “your Star Wars”. For the rest of us, who like vomit poured over our meal, and a punch in the face from the server, we will continue to embrace The Sequel Trilogy.
Thank you very much.
This isn't accurate, though. Mark did in fact do the voice over for that episode. it's why he's credited at the end, and I watched an interview with Jon Favreau where he confirms it. So while we do see a CGI face for Luke (and the actor was a stunt player and not Mark) the voice WAS him, and so it's not true to say he had nothing to do with it apart from a CGI face.Honestly I don't understand why fans are going crazy and literally crying over a bad deep fake with a terribly dubbed lip sync that sounds nothing like Hamill and saying it's "bad ass?" Mark had nothing to do with it other than having his face used.
That's a totally fair and reasonable assessment. I apologize if my post came off as a bit combative. It's often said that Star Wars isn't Shakespeare, but I would argue that it's the Shakespeare of it's genre.Maybe I misunderstood some comments then, reading them I got the impression that some people were indeed saying Mando was qualitatively not as good as the OT, hence my own comment. But if you’re saying that Mando is not as good as it could on its own I somewhat agree, I would never say no the Star Wars with breaking bad level of quality, which it is definitely not. Wasn’t expecting that neither. Though in the end for me it was more than good enough to entertain me and I’m looking forward to having a lot more Star Wars regularly on D+, alongside the Marvel shows.
When I posted that I wasn't aware of Mark's involvement in the episode, so that was ignorance on my part. I don't begrudge any fan for loving something I don't. I may not understand it, but like I've said before it's not my place to tell anyone how to be a fan. I think Mandalorian has a lot to offer and I've truly enjoyed a lot of it. I too have my blind spots and readily acknowledge them though so I'm not going to sugarcoat it. I always admire how cool and collected your posts are kristen jones.This isn't accurate, though. Mark did in fact do the voice over for that episode. it's why he's credited at the end, and I watched an interview with Jon Favreau where he confirms it. So while we do see a CGI face for Luke (and the actor was a stunt player and not Mark) the voice WAS him, and so it's not true to say he had nothing to do with it apart from a CGI face.
I'm not one of those that *hates* the ST like you all do, but I also don't mindlessly defend them. There is plenty of crap in them, and I'm not at all happy with how it ended. Likewise, there are things in Mando that i don't think are all that great, but overall i really like it.
I guess I'm easy to please with Star Wars, and really the only things I don't care for are the animated ones...that's kind of my blind spot.
I think in this case it's because Favreau/Filoni are wanting to build a universe like they did with Marvel. I'm not saying I want that... only saying that it's likely why they are doing all of these appearances with known characters.Yes and I've said as much in previous posts for the last few weeks. If the show has enough faith in it's original material (characters/ plot) then it shouldn't have had to rely on known scenarios and characters.
That was my problem with the finale, but in an opposite way. Luke would've done the exact same thing, whether Mando & crew were there at all.Again not sure why we now have two of these threads (really it’s three with the All Things SW one) but my biggest gripe with Luke is that he’s a deus ex machina that undercuts all of the work Mando and friends have done the whole season. They had literally no idea he would show up, no way out otherwise, and then he swings in and cleans house. That’s just not interesting narratively for me.
It doesn't but it gives me kind of satisfaction that He truly is that hero he was meant to be. I understand everyone the scenes did nothing to. My hate for the ST and especially TLJ is so big, I needed to see Luke as He was shown in Mandalorian. It just showed me that Luke indeed became a great Jedi and not just Jake Skywalker. And I loved it because of Mark Hamill who really cares about his characters and has so much passion for his work. I truly believe that it was great and kind of a redemption for him as well.He risked his life to save Leia in ANH, and again in Empire he tried to rescue his friends and even though he failed, his efforts showed bravery. Focusing on his failure and not on the attempt seems foolish to me because he may not have rescued them, but he didn't give in to the dark side which is what his mentors feared. In Jedi he risked it again to save Vader and he won through his compassion. Then he did it again to save a stranger in Grogu. Too bad he didn't care enough about his nephew (or any of his family and friends) to show up in person in the ST. At the least the risk of death would have made him heroic and would have made up for his cowardice. Zero risk taken in the ST. Zero. If the projection killed him it would have been a stretch but he wasn't even afforded that small dignity. Luke is a hero because time and again he risks his life and is willing to die for his convictions. That's what makes him an icon. There's enough cynics in the world. Did we really need Luke Skywalker to be one of them too?
I guess in a small way I can understand the thrill of seeing Luke be a hero one last time in Mandalorian, but it ultimately it doesn't undo the damage.