Nike Mag V2 Mod Discussion (Page 58 Shopping List)

[TheNutrient]

So Basically there are more pairs than just the auctioned ones? They've been scamming us all along then.

 

[Jedifyfe]

So Basically there are more pairs than just the auctioned ones? They've been scamming us all along then.

This is normal. The friends and family pairs were pairs that were not meant for resale. They were display pairs at the auction and/or discarded pairs from NIKE. There were probably about 100-200 extra pairs. Most of them had issues, whether it was lighting issues or construction issues.

 

[MitasTouch]

I really hope Nike doesn't try to screw the whole Back to the Future fanbase in 2015 by only making a set amount of MAGs for ridiculous prices again. I understand the first time was for charity and I respect that, but making it almost impossible for fans without a lot of money is aweful.

 

[glasses]

Where did you find those images? As much as I like the sock toe on the screen used shoe, those just look wrong. I'd have to say they made the right choice for display shoes.

EDIT: Actually, after finding Nike MAG friends and family on YouTube, I have say it is a shame that both shoes don't have the sock toe. Maybe the angle and light, but they looked great.

It looks like the strap is a slight bit wider and the tongue slightly longer.

You're right they probably went with the toe box look for display cases knowing people wouldn't be walking aroundin them too often, but on feet they look just the like film with the sick toe, there's no way to do this look? I mean if you open the toe and take the hard material out without trimming it down wouldn't it be loose when you glue it back down?

 

[MitasTouch]

I'm sure airair said that only the cloth parts change. They are not making new rubber parts

Well he said disassembled versions could possibly be sold, so modding the ankle bubble to stick out more shouldn't be too hard. If they're still glued on to the heel cup a little heat and prying gets it right off.

 

[airair]

You're right they probably went with the toe box look for display cases knowing people wouldn't be walking aroundin them too often, but on feet they look just the like film with the sick toe, there's no way to do this look? I mean if you open the toe and take the hard material out without trimming it down wouldn't it be loose when you glue it back down?

When you open the V2 toebox, there is a very stiff piece of fabric in there. This piece is solid when dry but when you put heat over it, it becomes soft.
When they glue the uppers in the factory, they use a shoe last which has a big military boot toebox on it, and this stretches the grey fabric at the toe area.

Here are some pics of when the stiff piece is removed and when the grey toebox is glued back down, and yes without the stiff piece in the toebox, the grey fabric is much softer, loose and you can easily stretch it, and gives a perfect sock feel. I've done it on many pairs.

Like I said before, even if you do this modification, because the grey soles are too low at the front, it looks way off, as the soles should slop upwards at the front tip, not downwards like these V2 and HC ones.

Go look at a picture of the screen used and 2011 shoes and then look at the V2 and HC ones, and you will see the difference in the height of the grey soles at the front. Add in the fact that the V2, HC grey uppers are too forward by at least a cm, this is what gives the knockoffs a sort of cartoony feel. On feet though, its less noticeable, but no matter what you do, the flaws are always going to be there.

I think Jedifyfe posted some great comparison shots of the 2011 shoe vs a modified pair toebox.

 

[glasses]

When you open the V2 toebox, there is a very stiff piece of fabric in there. This piece is solid when dry but when you put heat over it, it becomes soft.
When they glue the uppers in the factory, they use a shoe last which has a big military boot toebox on it, and this stretches the grey fabric at the toe area.

Here are some pics of when the stiff piece is removed and when the grey toebox is glued back down, and yes without the stiff piece in the toebox, the grey fabric is much softer, loose and you can easily stretch it, and gives a perfect sock feel. I've done it on many pairs.

http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii495/airair1989/v2toeboxsock_zpsd3d466b1.jpg

http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii495/airair1989/v2toeboxsock2_zpsa8fbf9a4.jpg

Like I said before, even if you do this modification, because the grey soles are too low at the front, it looks way off, as the soles should slop upwards at the front tip, not downwards like these V2 and HC ones.

Go look at a picture of the screen used and 2011 shoes and then look at the V2 and HC ones, and you will see the difference in the height of the grey soles at the front. Add in the fact that the V2, HC grey uppers are too forward by at least a cm, this is what gives the knockoffs a sort of cartoony feel. On feet though, its less noticeable, but no matter what you do, the flaws are always going to be there.

I think Jedifyfe posted some great comparison shots of the 2011 shoe vs a modified pair toebox.

is it hard to remove the material? I've seen jedifyfe YouTube video on how to slim the toe but he just cuts it down instead of removing anything

 

[airair]

is it hard to remove the material? I've seen jedifyfe YouTube video on how to slim the toe but he just cuts it down instead of removing anything

It can be tricky. The key to making the reglueing easier is to ensure you peel off the entire grey fabric toebox from the grey rubber soles as cleanly as you can.

Once you have the toebox open, you need to unstitch the grey fabric layers, and then you can remove the stiff piece. Sometimes it will peel off fairly easily but sometimes you will need to heat it up to soften it.

It sounds easy but you have to be careful when reglueing. I've seen people ruin their shoes by thinking it's an easy job!

 

[glasses]

It can be tricky. The key to making the reglueing easier is to ensure you peel off the entire grey fabric toebox from the grey rubber soles as cleanly as you can.

Once you have the toebox open, you need to unstitch the grey fabric layers, and then you can remove the stiff piece. Sometimes it will peel off fairly easily but sometimes you will need to heat it up to soften it.

It sounds easy but you have to be careful when reglueing. I've seen people ruin their shoes by thinking it's an easy job!

well i know its not easy from what i hear thats why im so scared ahaha

 

[cavx]

This is normal. The friends and family pairs were pairs that were not meant for resale. They were display pairs at the auction and/or discarded pairs from NIKE. There were probably about 100-200 extra pairs. Most of them had issues, whether it was lighting issues or construction issues.

The shoes in the video looked firat class. Each shoe even had its own black bag. The black box looked way nicer than the yellow one and shoes did not look like seconds.

The only thing that I would have wanted is for both shoes to be the same - ie both have the same type of toe.

 

[cavx]

well i know its not easy from what i hear thats why im so scared ahaha

Do you want the slim toe of the 2011 shoe or the sock type of the 1989 shoe?
Size pending, you can get a nice result from applying steam. Too much and you end up with wrinkles.

In my case, I got wrinkles on my wear pair. I don't mind because it has given a sock type toe box without surgery. On my display pair, I went with the smooth 2011 look.

 

[DL4567]

The 2011 shoe doesn't have this, although I have seen some 2011 pairs called "Family and friends" which come in a black box, rather than yellow one. These ones for some reason have 1 shoe with the EL Panel in the soles unseperated, and have 1 shoe with a sock toebox. A bit strange why that is, but i've seen at least a few of these pop up on the web from time to time. Maybe those could be a "sample pair", but Nike themselves therefore did actually try the sock toebox method before deciding to go with a different and more solid toebox on all the 1510 pairs they made. Maybe they felt a screen accurate toebox didn't look right.

here are some pics of that 2011 shoe which has 1 foot with a sock toebox. So Nike obviously changed their mind on the final look for the 1510 pairs.

http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii495/airair1989/magtoebox2011alternate_zpsc6cd5962.jpg

Fascinating. I had no idea those existed until now. And it looks terrible IMHO, so I'm glad they made them the way they did.

 

[MitasTouch]

Does anyone find it odd that MJF has never been seen wearing the 2011 MAGs? Like you would think that the person who first wore these shoes would have at least a few promotion pictures wearing them.

Also airair, will the posible V3s come with electronics? I think it would be best to leave them out. Especially since the on/off switch and charge port were popping out through a hole in the back.

 

[glasses]

Do you want the slim toe of the 2011 shoe or the sock type of the 1989 shoe?
Size pending, you can get a nice result from applying steam. Too much and you end up with wrinkles.

In my case, I got wrinkles on my wear pair. I don't mind because it has given a sock type toe box without surgery. On my display pair, I went with the smooth 2011 look.

Well I want to do the steam approach because it sounds more forgiving but I have yet to see any tutorials on how exactly it works and it's hard to follow whenever some one tries to explain

 

[Jedifyfe]

The shoes in the video looked firat class. Each shoe even had its own black bag. The black box looked way nicer than the yellow one and shoes did not look like seconds.

The only thing that I would have wanted is for both shoes to be the same - ie both have the same type of toe.

These black boxes and the shoes were not that great. I was at the LA event and these were the shoes that were on display. Trust me...they were not as nice as the release shoes.

 

[cavx]

These black boxes and the shoes were not that great. I was at the LA event and these were the shoes that were on display. Trust me...they were not as nice as the release shoes.

Just found a HD version and the box is a bit tattered. So were samples sold off to family who work for NIKE? The shoes themselves still look OK on video. His lighting makes part of one of the clear soles look slightly yellowish. I am sure it is not. I still think they pairs should be pairs and not one of each type.

 

[MitasTouch]

I can just imagine all of the prototypes just being tossed after the final was made. What a waste...

 

[DragonGalvy]

It sounds easy but you have to be careful when reglueing. I've seen people ruin their shoes by thinking it's an easy job!

Yes that's quite believable. 'Less is best' when re-gluing any shoes, I've done some repairs of various things over the years. If it's not enough, you can always add more, but if it's too much it sqiushes out all over the place and on cloth uppers - yuk!

 

[Jedifyfe]

Just found a HD version and the box is a bit tattered. So were samples sold off to family who work for NIKE? The shoes themselves still look OK on video. His lighting makes part of one of the clear soles look slightly yellowish. I am sure it is not. I still think they pairs should be pairs and not one of each type.

You make it sound like NIKE should care about their customers. LOL. All they cared about was getting this project done and moving forward. They are not a movie prop company nor do they care if these extra shoes matched. I saw 4-5 huge cardboard boxed filled with these shoes, just tossed in there. Then there were two underpaid people starting to repackage these leftover shoes back together. They could've cared less if the shoes matched. They were just shoving the shoes back in the black boxes. Let alone that most of these shoes had flaws to begin with. Some of the lights were already failing or the fabric had weird wrinkles in them. You guys have to get over the fact that NIKE just wants $$. That's it. The 2011 MAGs were a fluke and not meant to really to be a wearable shoe. Maybe the 2015 will be better, more sturdy but I have my doubts.

 

[cavx]

Well I want to do the steam approach because it sounds more forgiving but I have yet to see any tutorials on how exactly it works and it's hard to follow whenever some one tries to explain

HERE is a video I did today on the steam method toe slim. Unfortunately I ran out of space on the video card and the auto focus goes a bit screwy for some reason in parts, but you get the idea. I can't re-shoot this as I don't have any other pairs on hand but I hope it helps.

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You make it sound like NIKE should care about their customers. LOL. All they cared about was getting this project done and moving forward. They are not a movie prop company nor do they care if these extra shoes matched. I saw 4-5 huge cardboard boxed filled with these shoes, just tossed in there. Then there were two underpaid people starting to repackage these leftover shoes back together. They could've cared less if the shoes matched. They were just shoving the shoes back in the black boxes. Let alone that most of these shoes had flaws to begin with. Some of the lights were already failing or the fabric had weird wrinkles in them. You guys have to get over the fact that NIKE just wants $$. That's it. The 2011 MAGs were a fluke and not meant to really to be a wearable shoe. Maybe the 2015 will be better, more sturdy but I have my doubts.

No your right, NIKE care only to make $$$ or in the case of the 2011 MAGs $$$$.

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I can just imagine all of the prototypes just being tossed after the final was made. What a waste...

Yeah they could have tossed them our way