Nike Mag Markpoon clear sole replacements and ankle bubble

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  1. darthslick

    darthslick New Member

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    Since Nike released the 2011 Nike Mags back... blah blah blah:cry:cry...
    Ok we all know the story and many of us couldn't go out and buy us a pair
    Like many here I attempted to upgrade my Markpoon Nike McFlys with lights and what not... then the solder iron incident happened back in Nov of 2011. At that time S02 was upgrading Markpoon's McFlys for a price and I about jumped on the band wagon to save me some time but something told me not to.. so instead I bought a new pair of shoes from Markpoon. That was December of 2011. Then the first of January they arrived and the project started all over again but with a twist.... new clear sole replacements along with ankle bubble and of course new straps.

    I want to tip my hat off to Markpoon of course for these wonderful shoes. My biggest inspirations for this project came from Pitbull, MTB and lukebrynycz.

    And Kudos to S02 for taking on his own project with those many shoes at one time.

    Here are pictures of prototype one of my mags. I apologize for the pics. My camera is not the best.

    These are for my use only. I'm sure there are many flaws on detail, craftsmeship and accuracy but that's ok. No big deal. Cause if I wanted accuracy I would sell my sister for a pair of the real deals. ROTFL! JK.

    It's all for the love of prop making anwyways.
    The nice part is.. they're mine.

    My clear soles and ankle bubbles are designed from the 2011 Nike Mags but fitted to Markpoon's McFlys.



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    Still doing more tests on the clear soles. Enjoy!
     
  2. Jedifyfe

    Jedifyfe Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Very very cool! I would love to know more details like what material the rubber is, what type of adhesive did you used. Are you going to offer the soles as a kit?

    Thanks!
     
  3. Monster Dave

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    Fun! Glad you got a pair - I'd love to have a pair - but I'd want to wear them every day!!
     
  4. markpoon

    markpoon Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Hi darthslick,

    Great job! Amazing talent we have here at RPF!
     
  5. Captainjaze

    Captainjaze Active Member

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    DUDE SICK!!! I am interested as to how you did this! Its genius!!
     
  6. Pitbull

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    Outstanding bro just keep going they look sick :thumbsup
     
  7. airair

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    fantastic

    i don't get it though?

    did you create these clear soles from scratch using a clear material?

    if so, could you give instructions how you did it?

    im sure everyone here needs to know now! they look awesome!

    incredible really.
     
  8. cavx

    cavx Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Very cool. Like everyone else, very interested in how you did this. What I really like is how the whole clear part lights up and not just the arches on the real MAGs. I think it looks way better.
     
  9. airair

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    if this is a material we can go and buy and then stick onto our shoes, then it should be great.

    it may then be possible to do this for the k mags too, just cut out the rubber part and replace and glue with these clear ones.

    i would like to know how you made them, did you create a mould or are they just thin slices of material just glued on?

    are they ok for wearing outside?
     
  10. Caloss

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    i was looking at the grade an cuts real close and to me it looks like a transparent mat good job gives me ideas .thanks keep up the good work oh my question is how did you mold the back led covers for the back sole.
     
  11. Caloss

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    did you find a mini converter if not adafruit.com/ has all of your materials to complete your k mags light set EL panel 34.98 mini 12 volt 12V EL wire/tape inverter 4.98 i hope this helps.
     
  12. airair

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    do you have any pics of your k mags?
    have you ripped the soles out? and do you know which clear material you are going to use to make replace the rubber on the kmags?

    im interested too in doing something to improve the k mags
     
  13. darthslick

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    First things first... thanks so much for the compliments. Greatly appreciated as this project has be crazy.

    Lot's of questions so here we go. I started with 3D models for lower soles rendered then printed out of nylon polymer resin and the light bubbles are printed out of a clear laser 3D printed resin.

    The sides of the soles are made with plasticine modeling clay. Then they where hand sculpted with the use of a rapidly proed tool out of stainless steel. I had to do it this way because my 3D software couldn't go any further. Pain in my butt too cause it was really painstaking having to sculpt those individual squares by hand in the plasticine modeling clay.

    The molds where made from brush-able plate silicon and the shoe soles where made from UV stable water clear urethane rubber.
    --WARNING-- the 2 part mix is HIGHLY TOXIC and respiration and ventilation are required. --WARNING-- Do not walk outside with the mask on cause people might get suspicious and think you're running a Meth lab or starting a biochemical warfare. :lol Also vacuum degassing is needed as tiny air bubbles showed up in the test.

    The glue used to put the soles on to the shoe is Shoe goo. Plain and simple and it really does work. The smell reminds me of model glue.
    I walked around the shop with the soles glued on after 24 hours of adhering.... and no problems and very comfortable as you see I'm a size 10.5 US and Markpoons are 9.5. I've also done outside wearing in realistic places like on concrete, pavement and asphalt. No rock climbing or down a dirt road ;-) No problems but they did get a little light gray/brown underneath from dirt but was easy to wipe away with soap and warm water. BUT that's going to happen with any shoe ;-)

    As far as making kits to sell... I'm still in testing and I really don't know as there are too many questions on what I have so far. It's very crud right now. If I were to sell them they would be as clear soles and that's it. Not for perfection. The cost alone for the toxic clear urethane rubber alone is very pricey. So they wouldn't be cheap.

    I will be going out of town this weekend so I hope when I get back to have a video uploaded here late Monday night early Tuesday so everyone can see me wearing them and get a better look.


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  14. Captainjaze

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    WOW SICK DUDE!! Will you be offering these?
     
  15. airair

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    well thats where doc browns plutonium mask went!

    it looks amazing, you must have courage to do that!

    i wouldn't want to mess with anything toxic!
     
  16. Jedifyfe

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    Absolutely great. I would love a set also.
     
  17. OldKen

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    Fyfe, I thought you just finished yours??? You gonna tear em back down?

    These upgrades look UBER nice though.

    I just wish NIKE would take a hint and make these things already! They would make a killing.

    In a factory I'm sure these things would be easier than a LOT of the B-ball crazy patton leather mixed with neoprene etc.

    It's only 2012!

    Sorry for goin off topic. Again VERY nice upgrade! Looks very clear and professionally done! :)
     
  18. Jedifyfe

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    Yes I would for clear soles!! :lol
     
  19. cavx

    cavx Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Is this affordable yet? Last time I have anything like this done, it was about $700 per piece :eek

    At least the clay sides are DIY :lol
    *, and to think I sold my vacuum chamber and pump a few years ago.

    At least that product is readily available. Doesn't it yellow over time though? The last time I used it was back in the 1990s (maybe 1996) to rebuild the soles of my NIKE AIR PRESSURES (which I wore into the ground - I loved those shoes) and it was clear out of the tube, but within about 6 weeks, it had turned yellowish. It seemed hard wearing though and I wonder if it could be used to make at clear side pieces?
     
  20. darthslick

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    It's late Monday night and here it is as promised the video of my Nike (Markpoon) MAGS with clear soles and ankle bubble prototype 1.

    Once again these are for my use only. I'm sure there are many flaws on detail, craftsmeship, accuracy oh.. lol and lighting. I just barley put these on for the video so everyone could get a peak of the clear soles. To be honest the whole shoe is still a work in progress but it's all for the love of prop making anwyways. Right? And that's all some of us have since Nike (even though it was for a good cause) let us the "little people" with small pocket change down for the real deals. GODBLESS Markpoon and the many talents here to make our Nike MAGS look 80% like the real deals. I'm praying that on 9/8/15 will be at least $800 a pair with power laces. :confused

    I wanted to demonstrate what they look like in all types of lighting and in the dark. I tell you what.... the way I designed these... I don't need a flash light. ROTFL:lol You can even see the lights outside in the daytime(y)thumbsup And the plus of it all... I can wear them for a long time with lights on. Let me put it this way.... from the time a CON would normally start (10:30am-11:00am) clear til after it ends at 6pm. Heck... I'm sure around 8pm they might start going dim?

    Oh and I added one "non" canon effect to my shoe. :)

    Enjoy!!

    My Nike Mags - YouTube
     
  21. markpoon

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    Hi darthslick,

    Great job! These conversions just keeps getting better :)
     
  22. cavx

    cavx Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Very cool. Your not kiddin with how bright they are. Well done! You just need to build a TRON suit as well now :lol
     
  23. airair

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    Incredible, did you light up the mag strap buckle or is it glow in dark paint?

    fantastic work.

    and is that el sheet in the soles or led's? they are super bright and fill the whole area, i think these look better than the original lighting!
     
  24. darthslick

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    Yes a TRON costume would look cool with my Nike MAG "Headlights" LOL

    I used LED's for the soles and Glow in the dark paint for the buckles.
     
  25. cavx

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    I was wondering why the ankle buckle was glowing. A nice touch :thumbsup
     
  26. airair

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    I actually think the LED for soles is much better than el sheet,

    the whole thing lighing up looks so much cooler.

    :thumbsup
     
  27. airair

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    A question im curious about.

    how come certain polyeurathane rubber liquids are toxic and you have to wear a mask, while others are not?

    I looked at clone mags videos, and from what i can see, I do not think he wore any mask when making the clear soles for his mag replicas?

    He didn't need any for casting the heel cups and ankle straps, yet he does say they are shore A 50 hardness, and if you check the safety requirements on websites, they say to wear mask and not breath this stuff in?

    what polyeurathane was he using then?

    i'm getting confused now.
     
  28. cavx

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    Many compound mixtures give off nasty fumes. I specifically searched for a 'safer' solution with the stuff I found. I still recon it will smell bad and it will have to be used in an open, well ventilated space. Certainly not something you would do in the kitchen.
    From what I saw on his videos, he has already poured the soles and they are set. I'm sure in his thread he talks about having to wear a mask and have a ventilated room (mechanical fan to extract fumes) with the use of this stuff.

    The video of him layering in the MAG and NIKE into the mold does not show his face. I am sure he wore all the required PPE for that.

    It would be nice to know as well as I don't think he volunteered that information.
     
  29. airair

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    well the thing is, for the ankle buckle strap, he has used Polyurethane Elastomer.

    http://vimeo.com/37682372

    and pours in the liquid without any gloves!

    unless this polyerethane was a different type, shouldn't that still be toxic to be near skin?

    The safety aspect is putting me off from doing some molding stuff. Since i've never done this stuff before, I would rather research it properly, ensuring all safety aspects before rushing into doing anything.

    I'm pretty sure its easily achievable to do what clonemags has done, and you don't even need 3D modelling or printing for it. You can do it by hand sculpting then making the molds.

    Can't seem to get any info though from clonemag on what polyerethane he used, still no responses for ages.
     
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  30. cavx

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    Well that will be the same stuff I reported on in my clear sole thread. The guy that sells the stuff said it safe to use at home without specialized equipment.
    Can completely understand that.

    If you do any sculpting, please post images. My attempts at modding parts for these shoes has become quite frustrating. I am about to start MK2 of the buckle, though I added a small bit today to the first go and it looks pretty cool. If nothing else, these parts will make excellent greeblies for another costume.

    I can't work out his plan either. He mentioned his molds being only good for a short parts run, then does not disclose too much information that would be useful. I kind of think he is selling off what he done to pay for the "R&D", then will go into larger production.
     
  31. airair

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    Yeah, sure, i'm going to order some skulpty clay and start to make a new heel cup and ankle buckle, try get as accurate as possible and then bake them to harden them.

    My computer's old and can't run any 3D software, so it will have to be done the good old fashioned way, by hand. Whether they are good or not will be remain to be seen!
     
  32. cavx

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    Did some more work on my new ankle buckles on Friday. The more I layer them the better they are looking. I feel that they are a touch too big though.
     
  33. lukebrynycz

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    Where did this thread magically appear from?! Great work there mate. Cheers for the inspirational stuff, I'm sure I speak for all when I say it's much appreciated. If you're willing to do me a set of clear soles for my own replicas feel free to drop me a line. I'd be honoured to attach those to my shoes and make a video review for you!
     
  34. MTB

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    They look fantastic!! Great job man!

    Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2
     
  35. cavx

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    There are heaps if you do a search for "clear soles". This approach is not going to be very DIY so other including myself are working on other ways to achieve a similar result.

    Here is mine.
     
  36. darthslick

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    Thanks lukebrynycz I'm glad you like my soles so far. I'm still in testing so as of right now I'm not doing a run yet cause I want to make sure these look right.




    Thanks MTB I hope to have another video up soon.
     
  37. Skaar

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    Saw these shoes first hand today at Dallas comic con, And without question the best ones out there. Suck it Nike.
     
  38. Jedifyfe

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    What shoes are you referring to?
     
  39. cavx

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    I'm guessing by the comment

    he is referring to a pair of MP shoes.
     
  40. Skaar

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    DarthSlicks conversion, I have a pair of MPs I also wore and his blew mine out of the water. The soles are what he really did nail and is what makes his shoe look more like the real deal than anyone with the yellow of dyed blue soles
     
  41. darthslick

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    Skaar,
    It was great to meet you bro at the Dallas comic con. Funny you were the first person to notice right off the bat my mags in the parking garage before I even got in line for the convention. I knew wearing my mags would be a hit this weekend. LOL.

    It was awesome for someone here to see my shoes/clear soles in person. Thank you for the awesome comment on my shoes just like many others there that commented and took pics and... wanted to know if I could make them a pair (Full conversion) after explaining the story of the 2011 Nike Mag vs. The MPs. That got me to thinking for a minute lol. Still a few things to work on before I choose (If) I choose to do something like that.

    On a side note I am happy to say the way I do my light conversion on my shoes lasted 8 hours before the batteries went dead!
     
  42. cavx

    cavx Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    That is impressive! Have you posted the "how" in this thread?
     
  43. darthslick

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    Nope... I haven't
     
  44. airair

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    do you mean you left on the lights for 8 hours continuous before they died?
     
  45. darthslick

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    Yep Yep. That's what I meant!! ;-)
     
  46. airair

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    That's great! Just put a rechargeable battery in now!
     
  47. darthslick

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    Well... that's the catch. The "batteries" I use.. well... they don't make rechargeable batteries for them yet.
     
  48. cavx

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    Care to share?
     
  49. Caloss

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    How much would you sell a pair of led shields for i think your work is good i dont know that much about molding an casting but from what i see it looks good to me please pm me thanks keep up the good work
     
  50. NikeMags

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    Can I buy a pair?
     

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