New Hasbro Vintage 2010 Luke's Snowspeeder

crackerjazz

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Hi, I wanted to post a reply to Sasmysquatch's fine repaint of the new snowspeeder, but strangely, I couldn't post photos. Anyway, I'm planning on doing that as well. I was working on accurizing the old snowspeeder when they released this new one this year for the 30th anniversary of ESB.

What I like about about the new mold:
1. The bottom has been redesigned to match the ILM model.

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That part where the hull blends with the flaps is incorrect on the old mold. I cut off the flaps on mine to position them flaps down.

2. The size of the engine humps have been corrected and now have grilles instead of venetian blinds.
3. It now has recessed panel lines
4. The front jaw angle has been corrected.
5. The cannon mounts have details now
6. The rear detail has been corrected.
7. It has cockpit details, including the rear gunner - needs
a bit of correction, though.

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I have several gripes:
1. It is smaller - to match 1:18 figures
as well as the new big AT-AT.
2. The guns splay outwards whereas they should toe-in
(this reminds me of the toe-in debate around
the Falcon mandibles:))

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The toe-in should be there as the angled humps dictate the cannons'
position as in this Master Replicas photo from Toybox.

3. The shape of the canopy is too pointed and too shallow and
the bottom frame angles upwards - it shouldn't.

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Don't worry about those cannons by the way - you have options on the new Hasbro for the cannons and the rear harpoon gun for play and display mode.

Correcting the new snowspeeder would involve:
1. Cutting up the canopy to shape
2. Modifying the hull to your re-shaped canopy
3. Closing up the tow-cable compartment
4. Cutting off the belly fins and landing gear
5. Sanding off the air intake ribs
6. Opening the air intakes
7. Correcting the starboard ram-air scoop
8. Correcting the air brake supports.
9 Cutting off the cannon supports that connect to the hull
10. Adjusting the angle of the cannons
12. Front air intakes need to be opened
11. Correcting the detail of the rear flaps
12. Correcting the cockpit detail - such as the rear gunner console
13. Filling the panel lines and making them finer (optional, I guess)
14. and as suggested previously, filling the screw holes
15. Shaving off unnecessary added details.

I waited a long time for this to come out as I wanted to do something
similar - a hyper-detailed cockpit with strapped-in pilot and gunner. This new Hasbro Snowspeeder can help in that regard as it is more scaled down and has some cockpit detail. And the new Legacy Collection Luke and Dak are so detailed you can probably re-create the full-size prop scenes.

But then, again, I thought about the fact that doing this wouldn't represent the prop with its ILM pilot/gunner. The ILM pilot/gunner were too large for the snowspeeder - but it had its own amour and the big heads/helmets almost filling the whole canopy is what makes the ILM snowspeeder look like the movie props.

Even the big pyro model had those oversized figures, although more detailed than the ones used for the distant flying shots.

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These are screen grabs from the Making of ESB documentary - the one hosted by Mark Hammill.

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These things have kept me mulling over them for the longest time, preventing me from doing anything further with my partially-built modified old Hasbro snowspeeder. I like looking at my half-built models models, though, it gives me satisfaction of what I've accomplished and the excitement of more building to come.

Here's my half-built conversion proudly "flying" on its mount:

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Finally got ahold of one of these today and plan on modifying it as well.

also snagged the Cloud car. since these are one of each per box and the only toy selling of that assortment, makes it tough to find one.
 
I bought one also to try my hand at repainting, but haven't gotten around to it. I didn't realize there was so much not accurate about it. It sure looks better than the original Hasbro Snowspeeder.
 
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Thanx for the side by side views of the two speeders. Its funny because i thought i remembered the original mold being so much bigger but in reality its lightly smaller than the original.
 
I think I saw that the Hasbro one comes with interchangable guns. Thick ones for play, and thinner ones more closer to the scale of the original. Are you going to display yours with the thicker guns?

Even with its flaws, still tons better than the original Kenner.

TazMan2000
 
I think I saw that the Hasbro one comes with interchangable guns. Thick ones for play, and thinner ones more closer to the scale of the original. Are you going to display yours with the thicker guns?

Even with its flaws, still tons better than the original Kenner.

TazMan2000

Actually, that mounted snowspeeder is the old mold. As for the new speeder I'll have to dig through my kid's toy stash for those thinner guns. :confused I recently bought an old hasbro x-wing to work on but I couldn't pry it off his hands. I think I got bitten by the hasbro-conversion bug - been reading too much of PHArchivist's old fantastic hasbro posts - that and my failing eyesight - can't do much of small models anymore nowadays. But the problem I see with big models is it's too tempting to put in the crazy small details. I guess there's no escape either way.
 
Just wondering if there was any progress on this ? I'm tempted to get one to attempt myself. How do the new Pilot figures look in comparison scalewise ?
 
Hi Paul, I'm not on my home computer to show comparison photos but the new mold is a bit smaller so that where the pilot seemed too small for the craft previously, it looks better now. You can actually simulate the full-size set with the actors in it. If you remember the Battle of Hoth scenes where they were preparing for launch from the base, where Luke and Dak were strapping in as well as the airborne actor shots - this is the scale I'm referring to. You can even repaint the figures and detail the control panels in diorama-like quality. Cesar Villar Toro did a realistically detailed one in Modeler Magic. And mind you, the one he did was an AMT one - which is way smaller. I'm posting it on here just so you can see what the beauty of a "realistic" one is.

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Some modelers, however, prefer that "oversized pilot figure" look - which is what the props look like - where the heads of the figures almost fill up the whole window when looking at it from the side. With the Luke and Dak figures you can't really do this. They're more in-scale to the craft "realistically". Actor-to-ship scale is what I would call it. You'd have to make your own bigger figures to achieve this. In the Studio Scale section, REL of Sovereign Replicas built one which you'd mistake for the actual prop! Remember the prop has non-realistic figures which are too big. I would even describe the figures as more toy-like in proportion to the ship, but this is what some modelers dream of achieving - getting close to that ILM prop as possible.
http://www.therpf.com/f10/studio-scale-snowspeeder-94014/index5.html


You will have to make some modifications to the new Hasbro mold- it's easy to spot that the cannons splay out whereas they should toe in. The shape of the canopy is a bit pointed when viewing from above - it shouldn't be that pointed. There are fins at the bottom which you'd have to cut off. Landing gears - I don't think they're visible on the film, even on the life-size props. I always go back to the photos on Modeler Magic:

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I just picked mine up.

I plan on some minor mods...maybe light the cockpit.

THis thing is amazing though!!!
 
Wow, these snowspeeders have certainly come a long way since I was a kid! These are just too cool!
 
The new snowspeeder has been sitting in the corner and has caught my eye again - in the negative sense. There's just something very wrong about that new speeder, which is the reason I still have my old Hasbro speeder on the mount.

The new one really needs a big modification to that cockpit. On the left is the new Hasbro, on the right is the Master Replicas one. Notice the gap (with the arrows).


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Because I am not familiar with this Hasbro "toy" especially compared to the SS model, can you tell me why you need to modify the hull to the re-shaped canopy and which area of the hull required the mod?
 
These must stay parallel from front to back.
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So what you need to do is cut the side console panels off:
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And add triangular styrene pieces to extend the hull upwards and fill that
gap.

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Then build a new canopy from there and rescribe the panel lines - I plan on
rescribing the whole thing anyway. The rear humps need to be extended
inwards too and the airbrakes need to be made wider. I'm doing it all a little at a time.

That hull mod should correct the shape of the canopy so that it will not be
so pointed when viewed from above. I'm using the Master Replicas speeder
(photo below) as my basis as it was a digital scan of the gray-striped prop,
I read somewhere. No idea how they did that but I trust their dimensions.
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This Master Replicas sideview shows the base of the canopy as horizontal.
That mod should also correct that.
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I've redone the cannons by cutting the tip off:
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Nice, huh? I'm sure this'll make a nice mounted desktop model once corrected.
Took this photo before I did the hull change but with one cannon tip opened up.

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Nice stuff. You're making me want to buy the very cheap 2010 version I am watching on the Evil Bay at the moment.
 
I love your conversion threads Crackerjazz! It's threads like this that get me excited about doing something like this also. Just don't get sidetracked from your Falcon conversion! :)
 
Thanks, Brad! I think I had over-falconitis and had to take a break : ) But don't worry, I've got a few things in the works for the bird.
 
can someone post a link/picture of the box? I see two different versions in my local store, I want to be sure that I get the right one
 
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