New Elstree Studio documentary with discarded Graflex.

In the process of building the ROTJ Vader Graflex and the ESB Stunt sabers, I've been swapping out socket pieces and playing with graflexes, and I recognize what they did here a bit more. The blade needs metal to butt up against - I just put in the upper socket aluminum piece I recently found to be in these sabers and it works a bit better than a plate brazed to the Graflex :lol:

Didn’t even think of that, yes!!
 
...something really, stupidly obvious only just now occurred to me:

Since Roy’s 3-D modeling has worked out the wonky placement of the hero grips, couldn’t the grip spacing be used to definitively pin down whether or not a single Graflex hero prop was used for every single appearance in the film, both onscreen and in the publicity stills? Since the grip placement is so wonky, a secondary or tertiary prop would not have the same spacing.
 
In this photo, the larger size of the rivet in the lever pin seems to be consistent with an Inc pin on a shiney Folmer clamp (note no square clamp lever washer):

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But the thinner lip on the rear of the Graflex in the toe pic seems to be consistent with either a Folmer patent or non-patent bottom:

I agree that it looks like the hero was a thin lipped Folmer with a large rivet pin, are those large rivets specific to Graflex Inc clamps? My only vintage flashes (a Graflex Inc. and Folmer No Patent) have small or medium sized pin rivets. No where near the behemoth seen on the real prop. Do any of the replica flashes currently available feature a large pin rivet? My Graflex Shop Gen. 2 does not. Looks like Roman’s doesn’t either.
 
...something really, stupidly obvious only just now occurred to me:

Since Roy’s 3-D modeling has worked out the wonky placement of the hero grips, couldn’t the grip spacing be used to definitively pin down whether or not a single Graflex hero prop was used for every single appearance in the film, both onscreen and in the publicity stills? Since the grip placement is so wonky, a secondary or tertiary prop would not have the same spacing.
Actually yes! Crap, the grips didnt come off really significantly until Norway
 
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I'm not sure if that's true :)
 
Yeah, Roger C. Has said that he used “super glue” to adhere the ANH grips to the saber hilts.

Now, of it REALLY was “super glue”, and not some sort of industrial strength epoxy, then I am sure that grip loss was a frequent occurrence on-set as “super glue” forms a very weak bond between plastic and a metal surface.
 
I agree that it looks like the hero was a thin lipped Folmer with a large rivet pin, are those large rivets specific to Graflex Inc clamps? My only vintage flashes (a Graflex Inc. and Folmer No Patent) have small or medium sized pin rivets. No where near the behemoth seen on the real prop. Do any of the replica flashes currently available feature a large pin rivet? My Graflex Shop Gen. 2 does not. Looks like Roman’s doesn’t either.

The TCSS replica clamp seems to have a pretty large rivet. I used a TCSS lever to replace the super rusty lever on my patent Folmer:

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(I also recommend the TCSS on the basis of overall accuracy; against Roman's and TGS it's got the best overall shaping and is the only one to have that "hand shaped" look to the lever tip that the vintages have.)
 
I found the same photo on a Pintrest 'Mark Hamill' page also, I guess everyone thinks it's a real photo of Mark. I was excited to share the pic but I should have researched the photo first before posting.

 
So I can’t read through the whole thread but was it decided this was a hero prop or just an alternate/stunt? And if I ever want a very accurate ANH graflex does it NEED two rivets on The D ring and four on the sides?
 
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