New Elstree Studio documentary with discarded Graflex.
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The MPP has a right angle milled out of the top corner along its length. I think this was so the surface of the bubble strip ended up flish with the rails. The Graflex here appears to have a flat trapezoidal slant sanded off.
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Vader MPP bubble mounting
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Vader MPP bubble mounting
I had my scrap aluminum out because I had been working on my Holiday Special shroud. Thought I’d mock up a clip just for fun. It’s not going to get riveted on, but I might do some false rivets using some spare ones I have from Roy. I might do some photo comparison analysis with it.
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It's the same idea, though, removing material from the top of the bubble strip so that the bubbles sit higher and it fits close to the top surface of the clamp face. They just went about it in a different manner. Looking at the ESB strip they may have milled it out but I think they used the edge of a flat file to make the cuts because you can see some points where it nicked some of the bubbles. On this "new" Graflex it looks like they tried to use a round file -- again you can see nicks along the surface of some of the bubbles and the curvature of the cut. On one side of the strip it looks like they went back over it to cut it down farther because it fits into the rail better than the other side.
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Where's that d-ring from? If you don't mind me asking?
I took it out of a Wannawanga clip!
Ah yes, I recall someone telling me that before but I must have forgotten. Still, what got me onto that way of thinking is even where it is mounted it is not the same spot of the toe pic, and I could not replicate it using all the possible positions with the clamp and tube.
However, I always thought this was the same saber as the toe pic.
On my RR Replica bottom, even though it is not the patent version of the Folmer, I placed the clip between the 'E' and the 'H' as it seems to be stamped in a similar spot as to this new saber. Now I inserted the 3 cell tube, but did not turn it to lock it in and this is what it looks like.
So maybe it is the bottom part from this pic. The grips angles do look different to the toe pic ones, though that always could be photography angles. Can someone cross examine this idea, as I think I am going nutsXD
If the 3 cell bottoms were all stamped exactly in the same orientation then you would have solved the case
I still pray someone makes a Folmer pat# bottom!! Wish wish wish
This would give us a accurate ranch/dagobah saber and now this one as well
If the 3 cell bottoms were all stamped exactly in the same orientation then you would have solved the case
I still pray someone makes a Folmer pat# bottom!! Wish wish wish
This would give us a accurate ranch/dagobah saber and now this one as well
Lol, I don't solve things, just ask all the dumb stuff to eliminate it XD
I checked my other vintages, and yes the stamping is all off. If only it were that easy.
Folmer pat bottom replica, yeah, bring it on.
Cool job. To me from what I can tell, it looks like the prop person riveted down the double loop, then folded the loop around the d ring back towards the pop rivets. Might have to make one myself.
I think it’s very likely that the upper view prop reference photo features the same prop as seen in the toe pic. Maybe even shot during the same session. Publicity photos of the actors using the props, then some shots of the props themselves, for reference.
Makes me wonder about the Solo hero DL-44, too. Do the black-and-white prop reference photos match the publicity photos of Ford holding it, in terms of details and condition?
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Here is a running list of the potential mysteries solved by this, just to keep track. Am I forgetting anything?
- D-ring rivets or screws
- D-ring number of rivets (new)
- D-ring tab shape
- D-ring placement
- Bottom stamp
- Bubble strip bubble shape (round or flat)
- Bubble strip side shape
- Blade socket (new)
- Red button type
Yep, I still think they are the same. In short, I was asking the question: 'What if the toe pic prop, bottom 3 cell tube was not turned all the way, just stuck in? Would it then be closer to matching this new find, as a possibility. I understand all the stampings are out of whack. My stamping orientation on my replica was just in a similar spot if not turned. This made me question, these props bits can be interchanged, and the people doing the swaps might not turn the bottom. Cheers
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