Neill Blomkamp's Chappie (Post-release)

So he was religious, and a nut job...I stand by my previous statement
There were a couple of moments that seemed to show that Jackman's character had some religion - but, to say he was a "religious nut job" based on those very minor moments is reading a whole lot into this movie. Anyone might say something vaguely religious or even make sign of the cross (as Jackman did)... but that hardly makes them religious.

There are much deeper metaphors in this (that didn't work IMO) about religion... any movie where a robot asks its creator "Why did you make me so I would die?” is trying a bit too hard to make those overtones... even if that whole issue is just as quickly dropped and not really pursued.

But as far as Jackman's Vincent being a "religious nutjob." No, he's just a nutjob with a gun.
 
So he was religious, and a nut job...I stand by my previous statement
Of course you're entitled to do that. Calling the character a "religious nutjob" implies much more than what was shown in this movie - he's not taking actions because of any religious beliefs.

I might utter or do something considered religious but that doesn't make me religious - that might be more to do with upbringing. Again, you're reading much more into Jackman's character than what was shown and trying to create controversy where there is none.

He doesn't preach, he doesn't take action because of any possible religion - a few simple words and a small action doesn't make one a "religious nutjob."
 
Is Chappie set in the same world as Disctrict 9? I ask because Ninja has the same Reaction Force Battalion gazelle logo on the back of his vest that we see on the MNU armor in Disctrict 9.

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Just got back and UGH. No... not ugh... @#$%@*&^%#*&%@#*&%^~!!!

What did I just watch? I mean... seriously?

This was one of the most poorly written movies I have seen in quite a while. It was not entertaining. It wasn't meaningful. It wasn't... anything.

I am absolutely convinced that De Antwoord has some kind of massive secret against Neil that they used to blackmail him.... I just can't think of any other reason for their involvement in this mess. It really felt like a horribly conceived vehicle for them and little more.

Hugh Jackman's "religion" that has been brought up previously... just sad and pathetic, but mostly ****-poor writing from someone who clearly couldn't think of anything better. Actually Hugh's character from start to finish was so poorly conceived he might as well have been twirling his mustache while he talked about Moose (and squirrel).

Deon? Hello. Massive white-collar criminal.

Tetravaal? Worst security for a company EVER!

I could go on but my brain is just on fire right now... and like Chappie, I am angry. There was SO much potential for this story and they actually dance AROUND several very very interesting ideas, and then flit away from them to instead focus on Ninja shooting a gun sideways for the thousandth time.

Why, Neil? Why?

You dazzled us with District 9.
You beat us over the head with your heavy-handed preaching in Elysium.
You... I don't even know what you were attempting to achieve with Chappie...
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE DON'T RUIN ALIENS 5!!!
 
Its rare for me to pass up the opportunity of a sci fi film on general release but I'm afraid I will with "Chappie". "Ex Machina" has already tackled the same subject this year from a VERY different point of view as a small ensemble piece and that was a very quiet,thoughtful and cleverly involving piece of cinema.

That's what's been bugging me about the look. I know you mean the new British film Ex Machina, but the first place my brain went was Appleseed's OVA of same name. Chappie (and the other police bots) remind me a liiiiittle bit too much of Briareos. Hm.

--Jonah
 
I saw this movie... this freaking movie with my Dad earlier today and he asked me "Is Neill becoming the next M. Night?". That's a question I really considered because the defining moment for me when M. Night was starting to fail was when his movies were becoming self-indulgent. Casting this rock band was a risk that did not work. I say risk because despite how much I didn't like the characters, they did show 'some' degree of acting that I could have warmed up to if only they had a better story. Their motives are simple yet their actions are so extreme I can't for the life of me think of a way to care about them.

Speaking of extreme, does anyone else feel that Neill's style of telling a story is to be as "in your face" about a character's behavior at all times? For example. The evil drug lord. I don't think Neill believes you can convey how bad a person is unless you dial up his performance to 11 and give him some of the most asinine dialogue that sounds like fan fic dialogue written by a 10 year old. How is this intimidating? Why do out main characters not try to kill him when they have the opportunity like when the cops show up?

The security... that freaking security...

Security: Hey, did you take that one and only flash drive that can be used to modify all those police drones five days ago?
Main Guy: Oh, man! It was a complete accident! I'm sorry.
Security: Well, we want it back. If you don't bring it back by tomorrow, I'm going to write you up.

Unbelievable. And you know what kills me? Neill probably thought that taking the flash drive and having it go unnoticed by the whole company would be unrealistic so he added that telephone conversation in hopes that it would fix that issue. IT DIDN'T! IT MADE IT MORE RIDICULOUS! And it gets worse especially at the end when our main tech guy accesses the armory and walks out of the factory in broad day light with enough weapons to destroy their 'indestructible' ED-209 knock off.

My recommendation? Go watch Short Circuit 2 instead. That movie does almost everything this movie does to a T but way better.
 
Sure it has problems. What movie doesn't? I wasn't expecting perfection. I expected to be entertained and I was.

So you're defending a movie with an argument that can be made for every movie ever made? Come on, Clutch. No one here was asking for perfection and problems are never the same, nor equal in how much they can affect the enjoyment of a film. Tell us why you liked the movie despite it's problems.
 
Not sure where the negativity for this one is coming from.

Definitely back to the level of District 9 after feeling Elysium was a bit of a stepdown.

Don't know why people are confused by the characters, they all seemed clear cut to me, what they were doing etc.
 
I really enjoyed Chappie as I enjoyed District 9. I did not like Elysium and I prefer Chappie, no doubt about it.

I can understand some people didn't like it but in my point of view, this movie surprised me in a good way. For me It was something new and not a licensed marvel movie reboot number X... I mean it was not a prequel of something already done before...
 
I saw it this weekend. It had some fun moments but over all meh. Did anyone else wonder why the tech worker character didn't ask to be taken to a hospital with what was seemed to be a (not immediately) life threatening wound? I know they were trying to find a way to set up the consciousness transfer but for me that for me was just silly. Yea, I know there is a bunch of silliness but that stood out to me.
 
Why the hate ya'll..... I actually really liked this movie. Awesome effects and an original movie overall. Definitely better than Elysium but I do have one complaint. Hugh Jackman's character was just stupid. But overall I really liked Chappie.
 
I also agree that the hugh jackmans character was a bit weird and I thought dev patel overplayed his role which was a tad annoying but overall a pretty interesting movie. Im probably one of the few but I also really enjoyed Elysium, its nice going in and seeing something that really blows you away and is quite different, especially when compared to Hunger games and The Winter Soldier lol.
 
Just got back and UGH. No... not ugh... @#$%@*&^%#*&%@#*&%^~!!!

What did I just watch? I mean... seriously?

This was one of the most poorly written movies I have seen in quite a while. It was not entertaining. It wasn't meaningful. It wasn't... anything.

I am absolutely convinced that De Antwoord has some kind of massive secret against Neil that they used to blackmail him.... I just can't think of any other reason for their involvement in this mess. It really felt like a horribly conceived vehicle for them and little more.

Hugh Jackman's "religion" that has been brought up previously... just sad and pathetic, but mostly ****-poor writing from someone who clearly couldn't think of anything better. Actually Hugh's character from start to finish was so poorly conceived he might as well have been twirling his mustache while he talked about Moose (and squirrel).

Deon? Hello. Massive white-collar criminal.

Tetravaal? Worst security for a company EVER!

I could go on but my brain is just on fire right now... and like Chappie, I am angry. There was SO much potential for this story and they actually dance AROUND several very very interesting ideas, and then flit away from them to instead focus on Ninja shooting a gun sideways for the thousandth time.

Why, Neil? Why?

You dazzled us with District 9.
You beat us over the head with your heavy-handed preaching in Elysium.
You... I don't even know what you were attempting to achieve with Chappie...
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE DON'T RUIN ALIENS 5!!!

I saw this movie... this freaking movie with my Dad earlier today and he asked me "Is Neill becoming the next M. Night?". That's a question I really considered because the defining moment for me when M. Night was starting to fail was when his movies were becoming self-indulgent. Casting this rock band was a risk that did not work. I say risk because despite how much I didn't like the characters, they did show 'some' degree of acting that I could have warmed up to if only they had a better story. Their motives are simple yet their actions are so extreme I can't for the life of me think of a way to care about them.

Speaking of extreme, does anyone else feel that Neill's style of telling a story is to be as "in your face" about a character's behavior at all times? For example. The evil drug lord. I don't think Neill believes you can convey how bad a person is unless you dial up his performance to 11 and give him some of the most asinine dialogue that sounds like fan fic dialogue written by a 10 year old. How is this intimidating? Why do out main characters not try to kill him when they have the opportunity like when the cops show up?

The security... that freaking security...

Security: Hey, did you take that one and only flash drive that can be used to modify all those police drones five days ago?
Main Guy: Oh, man! It was a complete accident! I'm sorry.
Security: Well, we want it back. If you don't bring it back by tomorrow, I'm going to write you up.

Unbelievable. And you know what kills me? Neill probably thought that taking the flash drive and having it go unnoticed by the whole company would be unrealistic so he added that telephone conversation in hopes that it would fix that issue. IT DIDN'T! IT MADE IT MORE RIDICULOUS! And it gets worse especially at the end when our main tech guy accesses the armory and walks out of the factory in broad day light with enough weapons to destroy their 'indestructible' ED-209 knock off.

My recommendation? Go watch Short Circuit 2 instead. That movie does almost everything this movie does to a T but way better.

I have to agree with both of my esteemed colleagues. I went in to this movie with high hopes, and d*mn near fell asleep. I couldn't wait for it to end.

I loved both D9 and Elysium and was hoping for a threepeat, but it was not to be. I also agree about the casting of Die Atwoord, disaster!!!

Some things I hope not to see in his next film.

- Not set in South Africa
- Not set in some shantytown
- Not have some social commentary

Okay, rant over.:D
 
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