My first prop build: IJ Holy Grail (DONE!)

MooMooEgg

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My sister came home with a huge box of air dry terra cotta clay and asked me if I wanted to make anything with it. So I thought for a second and decided this would be a pretty cheap way to get myself a holy grail from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.

I decided to model it after the tabletop scene where we first see the grail. My dad actually has a pottery wheel tucked away in the basement, but after a few ridiculously failed attempts at it, I ended up just sculpting it by hand.

And this is actually the very first time I ever attempted to build anything from scratch, so please forgive the rude and crude methods I used.

I first started with a rough build of grail in two parts: (1) the bowl and (2) the stem and foot. The clay seemed really heavy, so I didn't think the bowl could hold its own weight if completely sculpted on the stem. Both parts were oversized, and I wanted to just get a rough feel of them.

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After the pieces stiffened a bit, I attached the two pieces with a little more clay and let it dry completely before doing anything else to it.

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I started to do some heavy sanding to the grail with some course sandpaper (60 grit, I think) to smooth it out and tweak the shape. As you can see, it's starting to look a little bit better, but the bowl is still a little too tall and the stem a bit too short. The inside of the bowl is still pretty rough and the overall width of sides are still wide.

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So after a few more days' work with the coarse and some finer grit sandpaper (and many huge piles of clay dust later), I managed to refine the shape of the grail pretty close to what's on screen. Of course, I don't know the exact dimensions of the screen used grail (It probably would have been smart to ask someone here what it was), but it seems like it's good enough (the height is about 5.75", bowl diameter is 4.5", and foot diameter is 2.5" for my grail - no idea how close I actually got).

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I like the shape of the bowl, but it's not 100% centered on the stem and the raised flat area of the foot is a little sloppy due to the clay not being completely even. I also feel like the stem is a bit too short and thin, and it flares out a bit too drastically toward the foot. I probably went a bit overboard with the sanding to make everything as smooth as possible. I'm debating on whether to try and reduce the bowl height and tweak it to see if I can make the stem a few millimeters taller, but at the same time, I wonder if that'll cause the stem to get even thinner when I even things out.

I'll keep updating this as I start and work on the paint and leafing (which I need to do some research on - I have no idea how to proceed from here).



Update 8/17:

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On a spare bowl, quickly primed and painted, I started to apply the leaf. I really didn't want the leaf to look painted on or have an artificial chipping effect, so I ended up blotting, not brushing, the leaf glue on with a sponge brush to see if that would create a good effect. And I actually do like the results. I really like the way the practice run came out - the edges of the leafed areas are sharp and jagged like I was aiming for and look like natural wear and tear, imo. I'm just hoping that I won't go overboard with the leaf on the actual grail like I did in practice.


Update 8/21:

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Did a little more tweaking to the shape of the bowl and thinned it out a bit. The bowl is a bit smaller now, and the stem is a little bit taller to better resemble the on-screen version -- hard to really see since the change is so minimal, but I felt it was important to do. There was also a frustrating mishap where I put too much pressure on the bowl while sanding and cracked a huge piece off :cry. But I managed to repair that so it's not noticeable to anyone unless I point it out, especially since the whole thing is now primed and painted. So next was:

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...gold leafing the inside of the bowl. I really thought it would be harder than it actually was. Right now there's only one layer of leaf, and I plan on adding a few more just to ensure full coverage.


UPDATE 8/26

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Leafed the outside of the bowl. It came out alright, and I'm pretty glad I overdid it with the leafing.

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I began to do a wash with brown and sand colored paints (thanks Brad). I actually used a bit too much brown, as I did a few layers of it because it wasn't sticking to the leafed areas for some reason, so the coat covered up much of the terra cotta color, unfortunately. However, the wash with the sand paint lightened everything up pretty nicely. And finally...

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I applied a modest layer of "dirt", as shown on the grail when it's first shown. I mixed the sand paint with a few drops of black to darken it up and was hoping for a more pure grey color (would have been smart just to mix white with black... duh...), but it ended up looking a tiny bit green, which actually doesn't look that bad. Just used a sponge brush to dab it on and then another to kind of dry brush it softer. I really like how it came out =)

Here's a pic with no flash, and another next to my other Indy stuff ^_^

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It took a lot longer than I thought it would, but I'm really happy with it, even though it's not as perfect as I would like. I've been collecting props for a long time, and it finally feels good to actually make a replica of something with my own two hands. There are items in my collection that I think are way cooler than this, but I'm definitely the most proud of this piece. =)
 
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Re: My first prop build (WIP): IJ Holy Grail

Uber coolness there dude.
 
Re: My first prop build (WIP): IJ Holy Grail

Your start was looking kind of rough, but that last pic show an epic leap in craftsmanship. Honestly, there are a lot of bad Grail designs out there, but you're already a front runner in the pack at an early stage. I'll interested to see how you bring this home, because the standards for Grail 'weathering' are pretty high.
 
Re: My first prop build (WIP): IJ Holy Grail

Great Job Alex! The shape looks spot on!
 
Re: My first prop build (WIP): IJ Holy Grail

Thanks guys. I'm pretty scared about the weathering since I've never set to do anything like it before, and, like HeroWorship said, people seem to be highly critical of the weathering of most grails.

I'm definitely not going to try right away on this grail. I'll probably take some time and experiment on spare sheets of clay before even attempting to start on the real deal.

Like i said at the end of my first post... I have NO IDEA how to even start the weathering process, especially relating to the gold parts on the outside, but I'm sure through trial and error I'll figure something out.

*is scareddddd :cry*
 
Re: My first prop build (WIP): IJ Holy Grail

Gold leafing is easy. Paint the entire grail that Terra Cota color, gold leaf it in the correct areas then do a few light layers of an acrylic wash (brown and khaki colors).

That's how I did mine:

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Re: My first prop build (WIP): IJ Holy Grail

I'd drink from that. lol
That's too awesome, I hope this gets you to do more in clay,
you're good at it.
 
Re: My first prop build (WIP): IJ Holy Grail

I'd drink from that. lol
That's too awesome, I hope this gets you to do more in clay,
you're good at it.

Thanks for the compliment, but I think it's more that I'm better at slow, tedious sanding :lol

Thanks for the advice, Brad. I'll try and pick up the stuff over the weekend and practice with the materials. My goal is to try and find a way to make the gold leaf chipping on the outside look as realistic as possible instead of "painted on," which a lot of other grails seem to look like. I have a feeling there's gonna be a whole lot more trial and error over the next week or so.
 
Great job! You nailed it pretty darn well, and all from scratch!
These usually are in demand so maybe you would make another to put up on the evilbay.
 
Damn nice work there MooMoo. The leafing and paint work came out great. And I wouldn't sweat the off centered stem and wonky lip if I were you. Since the film grail was supposed to be a hand made cup, those "happy accidents", as we call them, actually add to the realism.

Bravo.
 
Looks great Alex. It's one of the nicest self made grail. The weathering looks perfect. Well done!
 
Thanks for the compliments guys! :)

Jimmy, if I could churn these out fast and as accurately shaped as possible, I would consider actually selling them here or on ebay or something. But because I can't really pop out a properly shaped raw grail off a wheel in a few hours, it just isn't worth the time or effort based on the methods I used for this one, especially now that I'm going back to school full time. I'm glad I finished mine when I did (a day before classes started)... otherwise, it'd probably be sitting around until I finished finals and had a chunk of free time during winter break.
 
Fantastic job on your Grail!!! :thumbsup When I first started reading the thread and saw the clay, for some reason I didn't expect to see the end result turn out as well as it did! My apologies for that....:$

Truly a great job!!

Is that a new Gobler Idol you have there???

GeordieIndy
 
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