Thanks again everyone for your input. Goodbye Lionel Ritchie, goodbye Richard Pryor, hello Billy Dee Williams' much less attractive half-brother :lol . As you can see I have made alotta progress thanks to the help from fellow board members, especialy Wampa, thanks for the advice and great reference material Tom :thumbsup . I will be posting full pics soon, just gotta do some more work on it. I am really excited about this project, I think the finished product will surprise alot of people here. Gimme some feedback guys... Thanks, Bill