MR Y-wing pipe misalignment issue

Wistanley

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I love the MR Y-wing to bits, but the first one I got had a few issues: some paint damage in a recessed area, and prominent pipes that were not seated correctly in their sockets. I get pickier when the price goes over $400, so I sent it back.

Y the First


Here's the second Y with the same problem (the other side was fine this time):


I'm not on an MR warpath or anything (and I commend them on their great product return organization), but I expect better QA with a high end replica.

My question: Is this a common problem? Is your Y-wing okay here, or are you seeing what I'm seeing?
 
Damn straight.

It's got to back anyway; I just realized MR sent me a model without a stand.
 
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This is the second "Y" I have seen like this. Mine actually came out very good I guess. I would send it back and request a new one.
 
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Damn straight. This never happens at China Lake.

It's got to back anyway; I just realized MR sent me a model without a stand.
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You're having some rotten luck...

Third time's a charm....they say. :)
 
You're having some rotten luck...

Third time's a charm....they say. :)
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I remain confident and upbeat. ;)

And it is going back.

How many pipes on the Falcon again? :confused
 
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How many pipes on the Falcon again?[/b]

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" There...Are...FOUR....PIPES.. "
 
The right pipe on mine has a little gap.
Spose' I could fix it myself if it bothered me.
But I seriously doubt an actual studio scale Y-wing could stand up to half the scrutiny the MR is getting on things like this. Im still stunned I can read Rolls Royce on the bottom.
 
Classic. You posted just in time. In a moment I would have said there were 3. :cry

Cessna, I was on the verge of letting it go this time, until I realized I was missing stuff.
 
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How many pipes on the Falcon again?[/b]

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" There...Are...FOUR....PIPES.. "
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um there are significantly more then four pipes... I can think of at least twice that many without going to the reference material... ;)
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I know I get the trek reference I was making a joke... maybe not a good one

Jedi Dade
 
I just received the 1st artist proof yesterday and sent the other 5 out the Y Wing building team. Besides the paint job I think MR did a fantastic job with what we sent them. $650 for a studio scale ship, that before now we only dreamed of owning.

If youÂ’re not happy I guess to each there own. The pipes are a minor flaw. If we were build an exact replica of the Y Wing it would have the following: Bubbles everywhere, gaps in detail parts, instead of injected Styrene Tubing for the piping you would have painted rubber coated wire bent to shape. Would that stand up to the collectors eagles eye?

I have said before I'm not thrilled with the paint and I personally feel the piping is minor detail especially if you examine the actual studio scale model, some of its pipes donÂ’t even make contact and are just hanging there. Does that make it not desirable, I'd take it in a heart beat.

The best thing we got going on this MR Y Wing the guys that made the darn thing visit this board everyday. 6 Guys to be exact. IÂ’m sure if someone is not happy with their Y Wing one of the 6 original Y Wing artisans would be more than happy to correct paintjobs and or tube alignment details. I guess that would give someone a true Artist "artists" proof.

MR has a great return policy. Understand that the gaps have soured you on your craft but like I said earlier where else are you gonna get a Studio Scale Y Wing significantly accurate to the filming miniature? YouÂ’re not going to be able to. This is the best thing out there.

I say great Job MR and if youÂ’re not happy with the Y send it to one of us and let us make it right for you. Each member will negotiate appropriate feeÂ’s of course. Cant wait to do the repaint on mine and get it diplayed.

Steve
 
Steve, don't take my posts to imply any criticism of you or your teammates. As I said in my first post:
1. The Y is fantastic, and I am thrilled to have it
2. Great return policy, MR.

My issues are on the production end, not the design end. As I said, I was on the wall about sending the model back for just the pipe issue. Very likely I would have taken care of business offline as you helpfully suggest in your post.

What tipped my decision the first time was paint damage in addition to the pipe issue. What tipped my decision the second time was MR's failure to ship a complete kit. I prefer a complete kit. I'm just wacky that way. ;)

You seem to be projecting on me arguments and motives I have not expressed. To take your comments in order, I have not:
1. Complained that the kit wasn't studio-accurate enough.
2. Made any comment at all about the fine artisans who made this product possible (save for implied praise).
3. Gone on an MR-bashing crusade.
4. Expressed regret that there is not an even better Y-wing on the market. (There was indeed a better Y on the market last year, but I waited for MR's version because I was willing to pay extra for a pre-assembled product.)

Whence come these extraneous comments? My sole question was whether this misalignment issue was common or not. Is it?

Am I out of line because I expect not to see misaligned parts come out of a factory? I can't think of many $500 products where cosmetic flaws are not only acceptable, but the customer is questioned for even mentioning them and told he should pay third-party repairmen extra to get them set right. There's a reason outlet centers sell their cosmetically flawed products at clearance prices: it's because they are unacceptable at full price. That's how things work in the retail world MR has chosen as its playground, a world of trade shows and retail accounts, not at all like our little community of artisans. The stakes and expectations are and must be different.
 
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um there are significantly more then four pipes... I can think of at least twice that many without going to the reference material... ;)
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I know I get the trek reference I was making a joke... maybe not a good one

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Yeah. And I was making a joke too. And I thought mine was a good one. :D
 
So... what ya gonna do? Send it back,....send it to Steve,... or make it work yourself?

Whatever happens,.. being that this is a known problem of some of MR's Y-wings, posting this fix would be a good thing for people to view as tutorial on fixing their own if they have the same problem.

What do you think?

Steve,.. what would your team's fees be for fixing something like that? Also,.. what other mods would you suggest be done and how much for those as well?
 
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I thought it was funny. ;)
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Well thank ya.

What I find interesting is that statement that the original pipes on the Y were nothing more than bent rubbercoated wire....probably coat hanger wire.

That sounds like somethin' I woulda done. And it CAN stand up to scrooo-tiny when done right. :D
 
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If it was just the pipe, I would save the repair until I'm ready to repaint. Seeing as I'm missing parts of the package, I have to send it back to MR regardless.

Whatever happens,.. being that this is a known problem of some of MR's Y-wings, posting this fix would be a good thing for people to view as tutorial on fixing their own if they have the same problem.[/b]
So it is a known (i.e., not unusual) problem? That was the question that prompted this thread. I didn't know. I would love to see threads about modding the Y-wing when folks undertake such projects (repainting, adding a pilot, etc.). If I tackle it myself, I will post.

Steve,.. what would your team's fees be for fixing something like that? Also,.. what other mods would you suggest be done and how much for those as well?[/b]
That was a generous offer by Steve, and I would welcome additional info as well.
 
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Hey, I meant no offense. I am sorry to hear of your previous encounters. I think the tube issue can be fixed with a bit of realignment and putty if necessary. A paint job like Dan S. did for his would basically make the ship. IÂ’m saying an original artist redo may cost an additional $500.00 If you read DanÂ’s tutorial you can see all the steps required and the time allotted to complete. I would be more than happy to pay Dan $500 to paint mine but IÂ’m sure heÂ’s to busy to tackle such projects and $500 may not be enough for such an artist then again who knows. IÂ’ll post pics of mine when I start the disassembly and repaint. (this is not the AP but another I picked up to test the repaint and DS base idea)

I plan on making every version of the Y wing as close to the reference I have then resell them. At this point I think we have 5 different painted versions out there. Some require parts others require just the paint job. I have designed a L shaped Death Star base that will fit over your existing base and it will look like the Y Wing is screaming down the trench its quite large but best of all it does not mess with the production piece what so ever. It actually makes the Y wing look fast.. sleek as it was intended to be. Will post proto type soon. Were even thinking of a plaque stating this Y Wing has been re mastered by the original prototype Y Wing master patter makers have a few places for signatures ect. It would be like sending your MR falcon and having Dean D himself paint it for you. Wow what a concept. Dean are you listning?

Working on TIEs and other projects so with that the juggling has officially begun.

Steve
 
How many Y Wings made it back from the Battle of Yavin anyways?

One we see on screen returning with our heroes.

And then I believe three pilots run up to Luke's X-wing after he lands.

There is an extra pilot that is not Wedge or the known returning Y-wing right?
I might have to look at the movie again.

Anything intentional there? or just a movie muck up?
 
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How many Y Wings made it back from the Battle of Yavin anyways?

One we see on screen returning with our heroes.

And then I believe three pilots run up to Luke's X-wing after he lands.

There is an extra pilot that is not Wedge or the known returning Y-wing right?
I might have to look at the movie again.

Anything intentional there? or just a movie muck up?
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Interesting question,... I always just assumed 1 Y and 2 X's made it back.
 
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