MR TOS Enterprise Paint Master

This is the first time I have participated in the whole "red ring" discussion so I don't want to rehash all that has gone before. I have no idea what the arguments are for and against. I simply offer this:

1. Greg Jein added it based on the incomparable research done by Gary Kerr (the pre-eminent expert on this model).

2. It is clearly visible in the attached color "beauty shot" made back in the day. Now I don't recall where I got this, from whom, or under what conditions. So I am not posting the entire photo. But you can see how clear the ring is and the copper color. It's not red.

3. It is clearly visible in the attached screenshot I got from Custom Replicas when I was assisting Jim Key with his TOS E recreation project. I don't know what episode this is from. But, since it is a screenshot, there is nothing secret or proprietary about this image so I see no problem in posting it.

There you have it. Based on this, it was definitely there -- at least at one point. That does not mean it was not later painted over or altered. Using Smithsonian photos is not useful to figuring this out since the model was not necessarily in original condition even when it first arrived there. Neither is referencing photos taken during the Pilot era since the ship was altered substantially after that. From various interviews we also know it was changed during the series run to modify the weathering and perhaps some surface details as well. Thus, this copper ring may have been present at one time but not others. . .

Hope this helps. :)
 
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Now there is some copper.

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touche.. and your statement about it being there at some point and not there at others is very true. Who knows what changes were done to it through its life, even during the show.

Bah.. we get what we get :) I still prefer it with out though and the copper color in the little screenshot looks way better than the red color that shows in the pictures of the MR E at wonderfest.

BTW, I thought that big E paired with the MR was the custom replicas E, the big 66 incher. Doesnt show any red on it in those pix.

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Phase Pistol...those pics were definitely entertaining...thanks.

Mechinyun...in your pic, the ring looks copper to me,..but who am I to argue that? LOL. I will also definitely take what I can get.

Star-Art...thanks for the great input and pic reference.

I am wondering what it will be?. ;P
 
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BTW, I thought that big E paired with the MR was the custom replicas E, the big 66 incher. Doesnt show any red on it in those pix.[/b]

It is and Sean left off this detail when he painted his model.

I think this ring was always there. Did you notice that in every single screenshot that Phase Pistol just posted the ring is plainly visible? Once you know what to look for, there it is.. ;) We know that most images from the show were not exactly clear. So many details could easily be obscured.

Don't feel bad. I just recently resigned myself that not all of the "rings" on the antenna dish were raised. All of my reference photos seemed to clearly indicate they were raised, yet it turns out that at least one of them might be recessed instead. It's hard to accept something that you had made up your mind wasn't so.

;)

BTW, you can check out my TOS Enterprise recreation here:

http://www.starshipbuilder.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1269

(Membership required to view images but registration is free.)
 
Now, about that round bow light on the top of the saucer in front.

Clearly it is not illuminated in the series, at least not enough to show up much at all.

Some have argued it was a hull painted access port to get to the 3 lights in the front.
This makes sense, as the lit squares on top are all near windows on the saucer. Yet I never have seen the top bow light lit as it was later at the smithsonian.

Anyone have any facts on this?
 
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That's an exceptional CG model of the big E, Charles.[/b]

Thanks.. Still not done, but getting there. . . :D

Cessna, IIRC Gary K. posted in another forum that this round "port" was a piece of frosted plex just like the lighted box windows on top. So it was probably meant to be illuminated. If not, it would have been painted over. . .

That hole was definitely there -- one way or another. I've seen it in resto pics. :)
 
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That's an exceptional CG model of the big E, Charles.[/b]

Thanks.. Still not done, but getting there. . . :D

Cessna, IIRC Gary K. posted in another forum that this round "port" was a piece of frosted plex just like the lighted box windows on top. So it was probably meant to be illuminated. If not, it would have been painted over. . .

That hole was definitely there -- one way or another. I've seen it in resto pics. :)
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It doesnt seem appropriate to light it though even if frosted. It will be interesting to see what MR does there.
 
Pretty damn good job, dmerski.

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Dymerski did not paint this ...he is doing the Falcon....OHHHH wait until you see the Falcon.

Dymerski
 
whoopsie. Mixed up MR SS thread info. Next thing ya know I'll be calling the Enterprise the "32 incher".
 
Barry

Please pass on to the MR TOS E team that (and I'm sure I speak for many here) how much we appreciate the care taken on this product and attention to detail. Nitpicking is a Trekkie trait of course, and as modelers we can be tough critics and it's part of the fun too. But just to make it clear I want Big Thanks to go out to the TOS E crew for their efforts AND keeping us in the loop with all the photos that have been released. That is showing of great respect to the consumer of this product as far as I am concerned. I do not recall any other products being shown early on in development as this one is, and public scrutiny early on on any project in development can invite interesting comments. Looking forward to the day when we all are unpacking that big box in our living rooms with google-eyed family or friends looking on thinking were nuts. or more likely jealous :)
 
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Yea, ditto here...I have cleared off one credit card to buy both versions..... :D

Roger
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Unlessss I missed something following these threads,Where has it been stated there are two versions???

Lynn
 
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I think They are planning on releasing the Series version and the Pilot Version....

Roger
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Interesting....news to me. That would be nice. Is this true or conjecture at this point Barry?
 
Hey cool....

scroll down and there's an article about Us, New Voyages, there.

I have some info coming about the red ring and about the "port" top window thing soon...

-r.
 
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