MR Falcon owners - HELP!

Howard

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Hi guys.

First off, let me say the MR Falcon is superb and I love it - and in no way should this thread be considered a bash thread.
I just need to clarify something as I think my MR Falcon may have a problem.

Below is a pic of the two front forks. It seems to me they are
Misaligned, the fork on the right (as you look down on the model) being closer to the centre nose section.

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The gaps either side of the forks are different where the forks meet the hull, at either side of the centre nose.
Can anyone confirm their models are the same as this – or do I have a duff one?
I’ve illustrated below where the right fork meets the hull. There’s a cut out in the panel. Does your right fork meet at the same place?

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Also the side wall for the right fork.
You can see the pipe on the right ends near the box below it, but there's a gap where the box would fit against the hull plate if the side wall was slid to the right a little.
Is yours the same as this?

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Perhaps this is where the problem occurred in assembly?
The problem is, I’ve see the pics posted here of the skeleton and it looks as though the whole of the bottom section was one piece, with the top added later in assembly – much in the same was as the kit versions. So, I don’t know how this problem (if it is a problem) has occurred.

Any help and pics would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance.

Howard. :)
 
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Mine has the gap between the box and the hull plate but not the misalignment of the mandibles, the gap between the box and the hull plate may be smaller than yours.
mike
 
Thanks for the reply Mike.

Can you post a pic of the gap please?

Thanks!

Howard.
 
The gap between the mandibles on mine are equal on both sides. In the attached photo of mine, I enlarged the area where the cables meet the box. I believe this is how they are supposed to be.
 
Its not the jawbox out, funny how the mandibles could be out :confused
Guys are right though, the jawbox should be central there with an equal distance to the mandibles.
Id send that right back, its a lot of money, you want her as right as possible Howard!

lee

Just went back to check the pics again, its like a country mile in your first pic Howard, wheres the QC at?
 
Thanks for the pic ringa, and for the help guys!

Damn.
Okay - it's not as it should be, and yes it was a lot of cash as it's the signature edition.
I bought it off eBay from a U.K. seller a couple of weeks ago - so I doubt he'll take it back.

Perhaps I could cut into the mandible and straighten it?
Anyone pulled this model apart yet?

Barry - any help would be great!

EDIT:

I've just taken a look at Frank's in this thread:

http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=20498&page=2

It looks as though the gap where the side wall box is, is the problem with mine. Frank's is flush with the hull plate.
The mandible wasn't fitted properly.
Hopefully his means it can be (with great effort) be fixed.
 
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I wouldn't try fixing it. Talk to Master Replicas first about replacing it. Don't do anything you might regret in a BIG ($$$$$$$) way.
 
Yes Howard go to MR. The material they use is also VERY brittle, id hate to be prying around on her with that kind of outlay buddy!
I thought the mandibles were supported by an armature anyway? surely there is something way wrong inside the hull, maybe incorrect build practice?

lee
 
Yes, you guys are right. I'll not go poking around trying to fix it.
This set me back $3,687, and it has a big problem.

I'll pm Amy, to see if she can help, then Barry to comment on the build practice. I am interested how these were put together and how this could have happened.
The thing is, it has such a superb paint job! :cry

Howard.
 
Good choice Howard, the material is like a cold cast porcelain, maybe Barry will know more, but its sooo brittle it cracks at the opening of an envelope lol.
Good luck buddy, sad to see this happen, but im looking forward to you sortin out your bird soon, its a kicker that there pretty rare in the UK.
Keep us posted sir :)

lee
 
Thanks Lee!
Yes, they are really rare in the U.K.
Forbidden Planet have two of them, but at $400 more than I paid.
I'll update this thread as soon as I hear back from Amy.

Here's the pm I've sent to her.

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Hi Amy.

Please take a look at this thread:

http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=28752

I have a big manufacturing problem with my Signature Falcon.
I purchased it via eBay over here in the U.K.
Could you supply a replacement please, as it’s obvious this model shouldn’t have passed QC?

I understand from your thread:

http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=27716

You have three Signature Editions available?
If not, I'd settle for a non-signature edition, as long as it doesn't have any issues as per mine above.

If you pm me with everything you need to know (my email address / home address / photographic confirmation this is the SE number 27 / 500) I’ll do everything needed at this end to sort this problem out.
I only have the polystyrene box which holds the model and stand, but I’m an eBay user of over five years, so packing the model for its return to you will not be a problem, and something I can manage easily.
I would hope only the model itself needs to be returned, and not the stand and documentation?

Looking forwards to hearing from you.

Thanks for your time,

Howard.

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This is my ultimate Star Wars collectable and I've (no doubt like many members here) gone into debt over this must have item.
I'm sure this problem can be sorted out.
I've also sent a pm to Barry, perhaps he may be able to shed a little light onto how this happened.

Howard. :)
 
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When they have you return it, they have you keep the plaques (and base, I think), so the signatures don't enter into it.
 
I found this site with the picture of the actual ESB prop. Hope this helps!

http://www.studioscale.com/images/reference/Falcon/32 Inch/Maths/index.htm

It looks to me where the "tab" your are pointing to and where it meets the mandible is positioned the same as the actual prop. Still, something still does not look right as far as the position overall. My falcon looks positioned identically but I also have the problem with the box not meeting the 3 wires coming from the radar dish correctly as shown on the actual prop. Anyone with experience as to how I may remove this piece and re-position it?

Jeff
 
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Thats a shame it arrived with that problem. I went and looked at mine. One of mine is off by about 3mm but nothing too bad. If you look at the notches in the armour next to the jaw box , you can see that that is level. It appears that the mandibles were fitted off slightly.
Ive hacked into a few MR models , but theres no way i would touch the Falcon. The trouble is , as you say , here in the UK there are hardly any. I was told there were only about 12 Sig ED. There are lots of places saying they have them in stock when actually they dont. It took me forever to secure one.
Hope you can sort the problem out , the mandible does look way off

A
 
Thanks for the link, Jeff.
Very helpful as you'll see below.

Gunpowder - yes the more I look at the mandible the more it annoys me - especially for the money.

Here's where I believe the problems are.

In the picture below, my model is the bottom of the two, the top picture of the filming model.
The gap between the box and the hull plate is clearly visible.
Also notice how the wires do not match up to the details below them on the mandible surface, yet the details on the side wall do.
It's obvious the mandible top surface was not fitted flush to the saucer hull.

Notice the pipe to the left of the picture.
It begins on the side wall and ends on the mandible surface.
On my model it's attached at an angle and to the left of where it should finish on the mandible surface, because there's not enough room on the top of the mandible.
Also of note is the angle of the cut on the wire above this pipe.
The wire should end beneath the saucer hull plate, but as you can see it falls short of the hull plate and the end cut is at a slightly obtuse angle to the curve of the saucer hull plate.
Again, this would be corrected if the mandible was not 'toed in' too much.

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In this picture my model is at the top of the two.
Here you can see on the filiming model the wire coming from the right on the hull, meets the raised wire on the triangular plate.
On my model the wires are not in line.

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I believe there's a pivot point needed in the mandible somewhere, and a small adjustment would correct the problem.
Okay, the adjustment is small, but on a model of this size tiny adjustments one way or the other mean the difference between accurate profiles along a straight edge or not.

I'm waiting to hear back from Amy and Barry - but it's early days yet.
I've emailed Amy and pointed out this thread to her.

Howard.
 
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Just saw this thread.

Certainly my advice is to get in touch with MR Customer Service (Amy) and tell her the problem. No one should have to make alterations to their own model if they're not happy with it.

Most of the detail that dresses the main body components are injection molded plastic pieces. If, as seems the case in the pic in this thread, one has been glued on during assembly in the wrong place (I know that should never happen and believe me I wish it never could), then all the components adjacent to that part will be similarly out of position.

Anytime you're not happy with a product you've purchased you should contact the manufacturer and give them the opportunity to make it right. I would NEVER recommend having a go at it yourself. Why? You've paid perfectly good money for a piece that should be as perfect (okay, as near as) possible.

Those are my feelings on the subject.

Barry
 
Hi Barry,

Many thanks for your comments on this model.
Yes - it seems one mistake in assembly has a knock-on effect with the entire section of that particular area.

I've pm'd and emailed Amy - no reply as yet.
Saying that, I'm sure she'll be able to help me.

Cheers!

Howard.

Just saw this thread.

Certainly my advice is to get in touch with MR Customer Service (Amy) and tell her the problem. No one should have to make alterations to their own model if they're not happy with it.

Most of the detail that dresses the main body components are injection molded plastic pieces. If, as seems the case in the pic in this thread, one has been glued on during assembly in the wrong place (I know that should never happen and believe me I wish it never could), then all the components adjacent to that part will be similarly out of position.

Anytime you're not happy with a product you've purchased you should contact the manufacturer and give them the opportunity to make it right. I would NEVER recommend having a go at it yourself. Why? You've paid perfectly good money for a piece that should be as perfect (okay, as near as) possible.

Those are my feelings on the subject.

Barry
 
I'm still waiting for a reply from Amy.
I've pm'd and emailed her via the board function.

Does anyone know it she's on vacation - has anyone had any contact with her over the past month?

Thanks!

Howard.
 
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