MR CE's
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Lukes Roommate
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Considering Resin was used on Stunts AND Heroes, it is a fine choice especially seeing as this is for the budget minded collector.
Lord Abaddon
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Also, isn't "resin" a really broad term for many different types of materials put together to form a whole? I've had many "resin" props and models and there are so many differences in the actual material it's astounding.
I for one am thinking if they stay at $150 mark it would be more worth it for me. You could have a mix...the LE for the ones you really, really want, and the CE for the rest if you have to have them all.
And I love that new stand design.
I for one am thinking if they stay at $150 mark it would be more worth it for me. You could have a mix...the LE for the ones you really, really want, and the CE for the rest if you have to have them all.
And I love that new stand design.
Resin can be a decent material for a prop, I like metal myself. 
But for the price, its too darn expensive. I have talked with others on toy boards, statue boards, star wars fan boards, prop boards and the majority concludes the price needs to be a minimum of 50 dollars less and preferably 100 for what you are getting.
Every board mentions the cost of an FX in comparison to this and thinks its overpriced. I would have to agree. I think its going to be a hard one for the distributors to sell. They will need a fairly decent margin if they are to seel them at discount from the suggested retail. Unless MR lowers the price or improves on the product material quality, I think this line is going to be hard to sell.
But for the price, its too darn expensive. I have talked with others on toy boards, statue boards, star wars fan boards, prop boards and the majority concludes the price needs to be a minimum of 50 dollars less and preferably 100 for what you are getting.
Every board mentions the cost of an FX in comparison to this and thinks its overpriced. I would have to agree. I think its going to be a hard one for the distributors to sell. They will need a fairly decent margin if they are to seel them at discount from the suggested retail. Unless MR lowers the price or improves on the product material quality, I think this line is going to be hard to sell.
danvader
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Are the sleeve part and the top emitter disk made of metal or resin ?
I saw pics from toys fair 2006 and it look like painted resin......I know it is a non definitive prototype.....or perhaps it is because of the flash...
http://www.rebelscum.com/tf2006/tf06-MRminis/image24.asp
I saw pics from toys fair 2006 and it look like painted resin......I know it is a non definitive prototype.....or perhaps it is because of the flash...
http://www.rebelscum.com/tf2006/tf06-MRminis/image24.asp
vaderfanforever
Active Member
Originally posted by tripoli@Feb 14 2006, 08:50 PM
Resin can be a decent material for a prop, I like metal myself.
But for the price, its too darn expensive. I have talked with others on toy boards, statue boards, star wars fan boards, prop boards and the majority concludes the price needs to be a minimum of 50 dollars less and preferably 100 for what you are getting.
Every board mentions the cost of an FX in comparison to this and thinks its overpriced. I would have to agree. I think its going to be a hard one for the distributors to sell. They will need a fairly decent margin if they are to seel them at discount from the suggested retail. Unless MR lowers the price or improves on the product material quality, I think this line is going to be hard to sell.
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Tripoli is right. I think MR is a bit high on these sabers, even if they look like a "stunt" saner. $199 for a piece of resin?? I think not. MR overpriced the CE line. I think $199 is a bit high for a UNLIMITED number of an item. I would understand if it was limited, but they will keep making these things for ever. How fun is that? Plus I have heard rumblings that with the release of the CE line, the value of the LE and EE line will go down once these sabers are released. I think that makes sense.
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Lord Abaddon
Sr Member
I do agree that $100 would be better, especially when you consider the all metal Parks, Larbel, etc. sabers that have been out there of such high quality and not for much more. However in this case we do have to give ground for the license, and we know LFL isn't cheap in that regard. I think $150 would be fair, less of course would be better (when you consider the minis are $40 for all metal too boot).
But...one thing IMO...if they are painted? Forget it...that to me really kills it.
As for the price of LE, EE, etc. I have said they would go down. Other collectibles have shown when you come out with variations, especially when they basically look exactly the same, then the "original" collectibles aren't so collectible anymore. Plates, action figures, steins, cards, etc. have all fallen into this trap. I hope that won't happen with MR...but it's a tricky rope to walk.
But...one thing IMO...if they are painted? Forget it...that to me really kills it.
As for the price of LE, EE, etc. I have said they would go down. Other collectibles have shown when you come out with variations, especially when they basically look exactly the same, then the "original" collectibles aren't so collectible anymore. Plates, action figures, steins, cards, etc. have all fallen into this trap. I hope that won't happen with MR...but it's a tricky rope to walk.
Thinking about it, I bet there will be a lowering in price on the LE lines. But in the long run, the plastic may make the metal replicas all the more popular and could on the long run actually increase their value as they were limited. So I would not be all that unhappy about it as a collector.
The limited edition lines have rose up and down in value over the time they have been out. But if you look at the signatures and elites, they have held their value and grown over time. If a collector is getting them for the monetary collectors value, they really should be looking to the signature lines and elites. Otherwise, you should be happy just having a great replica in the collection.
The limited edition lines have rose up and down in value over the time they have been out. But if you look at the signatures and elites, they have held their value and grown over time. If a collector is getting them for the monetary collectors value, they really should be looking to the signature lines and elites. Otherwise, you should be happy just having a great replica in the collection.
ghostryder
Legendary Member
FAO just sold out on the Sidious LE at $ 200 and the le Yoda is still available at $ 239. So theses do end up being on the bargain bin from time to time, but eventually retain at least their suggested retail value. As the Star Wars franchise dies down a bit with time, those items exclusive enough or of high quality are going to demand high secondary prices. The unlimited won't because the supply is so great.
The fact the le's fall that low in value from time to time make me think the market won't bear the ce's at the high suggested retail. The bang for the buck with the average consumer just is not going to be there, especially when they see what they get for the FX blades.
The fact the le's fall that low in value from time to time make me think the market won't bear the ce's at the high suggested retail. The bang for the buck with the average consumer just is not going to be there, especially when they see what they get for the FX blades.
MikeyX
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Originally posted by tripoli@Feb 14 2006, 08:50 PM
Resin can be a decent material for a prop, I like metal myself.
But for the price, its too darn expensive. I have talked with others on toy boards, statue boards, star wars fan boards, prop boards and the majority concludes the price needs to be a minimum of 50 dollars less and preferably 100 for what you are getting.
Every board mentions the cost of an FX in comparison to this and thinks its overpriced. I would have to agree. I think its going to be a hard one for the distributors to sell. They will need a fairly decent margin if they are to seel them at discount from the suggested retail. Unless MR lowers the price or improves on the product material quality, I think this line is going to be hard to sell.
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Remember $199 is the Recommended Retail Price. Since the dealers will be selling these there will be plenty of competition and I think you'll see them for $150 and possibly lower.
As an aside I'm an LE/EE person myself - I'm not really into resin and cheaper parts. My prediction, for what it's worth, is that these will look absolutely fantastic from a distance, but up close or in the hand they will seem like what they are - a cheaper alternative.
MikeyX
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MRs plan - and it's just a plan (I've no idea if it will work or not) - is that by only selling LEs from their website for retail you won't see these crashing LE prices that we've seen of late, so there will be a real differential between the LEs and CEs in terms of price.
Value is a different argument though...
Lukes Roommate
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I really hope they DO re-issue all the sabers as CE's.
I could care less if the "value" of my LE's plummets, because quite frankly I'm collecting them for me, not the secondary market.
The CE's will give me something I can mess around with and not worry 'bout dirtying them up.
Plus I still have a lingering case of the "multiples" from my comic days, but with props that gets to be a TAD expensive :lol
I could care less if the "value" of my LE's plummets, because quite frankly I'm collecting them for me, not the secondary market.
The CE's will give me something I can mess around with and not worry 'bout dirtying them up.
Plus I still have a lingering case of the "multiples" from my comic days, but with props that gets to be a TAD expensive :lol
Qui-Gonzalez
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Well, remembering the "Special Features" on the Episode III disk, they showed some vacuum metalized resin sabers that looked amazing. That shows me that they can still look great for being made of resin, or even rubber. Now, that said, would I pay 200 for a resin saber? No, not a chance in hell.
Yeah I agree. I don't see anyone laying that amount of cash down for a little piece of resin with aluminum sleeve. Look at UC's LOTR swords. HUGE metal blades, leather grips, etc, and you can pick them up for $130. The retailers are gonna really push these. I want them to do well because I can't afford all the LE's even though I want them all. We'll jsut have to wait and see.
"MRs plan - and it's just a plan (I've no idea if it will work or not) - is that by only selling LEs from their website for retail you won't see these crashing LE prices that we've seen of late, so there will be a real differential between the LEs and CEs in terms of price."
If MR is planning to drop their sales distribution with the LE's to Sharper Image, QVC, FAO, and others, then yes, you won't see the drops except on ebay with the secondary market.
If they cut out that distribution nodes, they must feel they can afford to take the sales drop with the added income selling direct will give them. Icons tried this as a last ditch effort to keep afloat and it was another nail in their coffin.
Generally the sales tactic works if you are big enough and the demand is strong enough. Its a gutsy move. Some distributors are wary to add a company back on if they have been dropped like this in the past, caused a drop of product loyalty which is hard to re-establish. Some collectors like the hunt for a bargain and some just cannot afford the purchase without the discounts they find. If they base this on the strength of the franchise license, they have to realize that leaning on that strength instead of their own can backfire on them both for sales and with the view from the licensee.
If MR is basing this decision on the fact they think the CE's will be strong enough to keep their distributors market going, in my opinion, they are screwing the pooch with that marketing decision.
It will be interesting to watch how this all falls.
If MR is planning to drop their sales distribution with the LE's to Sharper Image, QVC, FAO, and others, then yes, you won't see the drops except on ebay with the secondary market.
If they cut out that distribution nodes, they must feel they can afford to take the sales drop with the added income selling direct will give them. Icons tried this as a last ditch effort to keep afloat and it was another nail in their coffin.
Generally the sales tactic works if you are big enough and the demand is strong enough. Its a gutsy move. Some distributors are wary to add a company back on if they have been dropped like this in the past, caused a drop of product loyalty which is hard to re-establish. Some collectors like the hunt for a bargain and some just cannot afford the purchase without the discounts they find. If they base this on the strength of the franchise license, they have to realize that leaning on that strength instead of their own can backfire on them both for sales and with the view from the licensee.
If MR is basing this decision on the fact they think the CE's will be strong enough to keep their distributors market going, in my opinion, they are screwing the pooch with that marketing decision.
It will be interesting to watch how this all falls.
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