Movie Cliches that need to be Retired.

1) There is no longer such thing as a fine, upstanding person of good moral fibre and character who thinks nothing of doing the right thing, IE a hero; The protagonist passed off as a hero is a deeply scarred person, haunted by demons and almost unbearable personal tragedy. They have a chip on their shoulder the size of Nebraska. They don’t talk, they growl in a low, threatening voice to express their tragic past and show how tough they actually are. Only by the end of the film are they healed or redeemed by their heroic actions and usually find new love.

2) Low tech always beats high tech. Ninjas with swords and shurikens will always take out men with guns, advanced body armour and night vision. By this logic a caveman with a rock should be able to take out a tank regiment.

3) Space/diving/NBC-suits’ helmets have a bunch of lights in them with the only purpose of illuminating the face of the person wearing it.

4) Cursed villains who have so many cool powers (Super-strength, immortality, great looks, chick magnet, cool castle, etc) it’s hard to call them “cursed”.

5) Convoluted plotlines that are never really explained or left ambiguous on purpose so that people think it has a “deeper, hidden meaning”.

6) No matter what time period, the hero always has exotic custom-designed signature weapons and equipment, often anachronistic or almost impossible to find in that time period. (Samurai sword in Roman times, some advanced automatic weapon in Renaissance times.) (Yes I know this goes against everything RPF stands for …)

7) There is never more than one superhero active in the world at any time

8) Highly trained female combatants wear corsets to look fabulous and restrict their breathing when fighting. Wouldn’t be sporty otherwise ?

9) No hero stoops so low as to wear even the most basic body armour, except when the villain guns them down, do they reveal they were wearing something all along.

10) In every fight there is always a human colossus who is immune to every single punch you can throw at him. If there is a female sidekick she’ll be the one to take him out, while he’s wiping the floor with the hero, though she will hit the hero at least once by accident.

11) Some women are identical clones of a distant ancestor despite generations of genetic drift. In other cases they are a prefect duplicate of a completely unrelated person. They never have a simple passing resemblance.
 
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It made sense in Saving Pvt. Ryan. That and, I guess, what, removing frames? Whatever they did to make everything sort of herky-jerky when shooting action sequences.

But the camera is also shaking in calm sequences, establishing shots and even bloody talking scenes where no one is moving. I remember when Joss Whedon in his commentary for Firefly's second pilot talked about how using shaky cams was his way to distinguish the show from other science fiction shows like Star Trek. He even takes a jab at Lucas for incorporating that technique in Attack of the Clones which I always get a laugh at.

Than came JJ's Star Trek..... Not only are there shaky cams, but the image looks flat as #*!($.
 
I remember when Joss Whedon in his commentary for Firefly's second pilot talked about how using shaky cams was his way to distinguish the show from other science fiction shows like Star Trek.
I also remember him saying that he wanted an "invisible handheld cameraman" feel. And when his real, visible, handheld cameraman wasn't jiggling around enough, he threatened to tickle him.

An invisible cameraman would not purposely shake the camera! :darnkids
 
Whenever a knife or sword is pulled out it does that metal on metal 'ziiiinng' sound. Doesn't matter what it is being pulled out of. Leather, wood, flesh, a sofa. It always goes zing.

Any woman can be controlled by grabbing her above the back of the elbow. It doesn't matter how tough she is. Just grab her there and she has to go wherever the guy says.
 
For me, quick cuts and shaky-cam hit their nadir with Quantum of Solace.


Oh man are you right on there. To me quick cut fight scenes means the actor/director was too stupid, or lazy to bother learning/filming a decently choreographed fignt.
 
Whenever a knife or sword is pulled out it does that metal on metal 'ziiiinng' sound. Doesn't matter what it is being pulled out of. Leather, wood, flesh, a sofa. It always goes zing.

Any woman can be controlled by grabbing her above the back of the elbow. It doesn't matter how tough she is. Just grab her there and she has to go wherever the guy says.

Yeah, I seem to recall noticing this in The Last Samurai. I also seem to recall laughing out loud as the metal sword blade >zhhhiiinnnggs< out of a BAMBOO scabbard.

This may have been mentioned earlier, but the total lack of shrapnel in films (as well as other blast effects like disorientation from being concussed) always makes me roll my eyes. One film in recent memory got this right where it WASN'T (as I recall) necessary to the plot and was simply included for what I gather was authenticity: The Peacemaker. Yes, that godawful film with George Clooney. It's actually the only thing I really remember about the film.

Oh man are you right on there. To me quick cut fight scenes means the actor/director was too stupid, or lazy to bother learning/filming a decently choreographed fignt.

I know. I still recall the opening car chase sequence where my sense was "Ok...something hit the car...um...somewhere, and then...er....it pulled on something, I think?" The effect was annoying enough as it was in the Bourne films where it was done to place you "in" the fight. Ok, fine. You could still SORT OF follow the fights. But in QoS, you'd get these nice static dolly shots and then as soon as a fight sequence started it was off to shaky-cam-land, and then they'd double down on it even further by apparently letting the editor take a break while they swapped him out for his ADHD nephew who'd just been fed three bowls of Cap'n Crunch soaked in Redbull.
 
How about the Batman Begins fight at the docks. Batman is doing something with some other guys, but who knows what. There's fight sounds coming out, while the camera bounces around like its on a bungee.
Bruce Lee could beat up 70 guys and he'd show you every move.
 
No matter how long the bad guy and the good guy fight--be it 2 minutes or 20 minutes--the cops will never arrive until it is over!!
 
Cg camera following a cg flying thing over a cliff or down into a bottomless pit (LOTR, Avatar, John Carter etc. ad nauseum), usually with flying thing impossibly maintaining dead-centre position in the frame.
 
Not sure if it has been mentioned or not but Matrix stop motion, 360 camera rotation, fight scenes.... :wacko
 
Along the lines of the ridiculous sword noises- every sword is stronger than every other weapon. The swordsman can cut your rifle in half with a single swing. Especially if they have a katana, those can cut through trees because they were forged with blood.
Also the sword will never get dull or need to have the blade replaced. The only time the sword will break is if someone else cut it in half with thier sword to prove a point
 
Yeah. The only movie I can recall with sharpening is Samurai II. He goes to get his sword sharpened [polished] and the guy says 'that sword's too good for me' and sends him to his master. He says "I don't deal with bums like you".

With hundreds or thousands of Samurai there must have been constant line ups.
 
Ok. I am currently under influence of pain and sleep meds. But I have 3 to 5 partial scrpts/storylines to addrress all of the cliches. If anyone is intersted please let me know after my brai box gets back to normal.

Story 1: a drifter and collectorjust trying to make hi delivery. desert punkswho have been watching aaction movies thank they can take his stuff and kill him. The guy they try to steal from is ex sodier who has bcome prist/parson/chaplin. His job is ti get his goods to the th=ownes and outriding settlements, The Preacheman is bringing medicines, seeds for planting, machines to help rebuik=ld HE s the breaker of the= trope and teh cliche He is here to bring normalcy back to the area, To try to stop the rapes and murders. His cargo, is multiples. Seed stock for planting, but the pl;anting requires a mind to control it or it will be out of control. This one man this preacher is he to teaxch people how to live again nut just how to surviuve He is the 1st story

Story2 the younggeneration who don't want to folow the rules. They are bored, armed, without any outlet theri anger and desire fir actiion. The subbrogate their own authority and wish to lash out at any one for any reason, as long as it is :FUN: They see no problem with waisting resiurces shooting their weapons ans killing some of the few whi=o are there to support them but the die has been cast. They will descend into the lower levels and huntbecause itis entetainment. With the Parson/Ministr=er screaming at them of how that is the games of the old lord, not them the YGes as they will be called nowignore him and enter the underland to hunt for sport and to hunt for hedonistic pleassure.

Story3 Thecreature under the land whose whole existennceto to serve those aboove them

And I am halting here. My meds are putting me into a somehat fugue state. I will work on this later after my brian recovers

Mark
 
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