Move along helmet, first helmet made for the Star Wars movie?

[budspencer]

Hi all, this is a post i made at fisd, but not a lot of people are discussing it...thought i would post it here to see what people think...

i know this is just fantasy thinking and far fetched but i sincerely think that the move along helmet might have been the first helmet pulled and assembled for the movie.

why am i saying this?

well look at all the defects of the helmet ( which makes it great and legendary by the way)

the time frame the sandy were made in.

the real bad pull around the teeth area

the crack in the tube and behind one ear. bad assembly or struggled with assembly...

the badly cut ear piece...

the weirdly cut eye area...

the black grill on the hovi mix tips...


all signs point out that this might have been one of the so called mythical "prototype helmet" some people are talking about on the net.

 

[gizmo]

You will never know.

 

[GINO]

If I'm not mistaken, I think it is confirmed that the sandtroopers were the first troopers made.
Think of them as 'prototype' stormtroopers.
By the time the rest were created and used on set, their design had gone though some refinement with the inclusion of some additional pieces added to the armor.
The trooper helmets were also later refined after the sandtroopers with the addition of the black stripes in the trap and tear areas. They were also painted/detailed much less sloppy.

As far as the move along being the first, I'm sure all the sandtrooper helmets were formed and finished at the same time.


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[Supa troop]

As far as the move along being the first, I'm sure all the sandtrooper helmets were formed and finished at the same time.


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which is what i told you on the FISD :wacko

 

[Art Andrews]

Gonna have to agree with Gino and supa troop. I think it is pretty common knowledge at this point that the sandtroopers were almost like prototypes for the final stormtrooper design. They are very rough, but I feel that the details you are pointing out aren't unique to the move along trooper. The Davin Helmet and Lewis Trooper helmets both have some of the same issues. As Gino said, I would guess all the sandtroopers were formed and finished at roughly the same time and I think it would be impossible to state as fact, or even go too far with supposition about the Move Along being literally the first.

 

[budspencer]

i know it would be impossible to tell unless you were there...where is Andrew when we "really " need him.... ahahah

nah i am just stating this because of the obvious details on the bucket.... this would make a nice urban myth though ahahah

 

[budspencer]

If I'm not mistaken, I think it is confirmed that the sandtroopers were the first troopers made.
Think of them as 'prototype' stormtroopers.
By the time the rest were created and used on set, their design had gone though some refinement with the inclusion of some additional pieces added to the armor.
The trooper helmets were also later refined after the sandtroopers with the addition of the black stripes in the trap and tear areas. They were also painted/detailed much less sloppy.

As far as the move along being the first, I'm sure all the sandtrooper helmets were formed and finished at the same time.


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agree 100% with you Gino but still even if they were pulled the same day, you still have the first of first so to say.... since Andrew seemed to have only one mold he could have only pulled one helmet at a time...even though they were made the same day...imagine sixtuplet helmets, or whatever the name would be for 6 babies....

ah well...all in good fun....

 

[gizmo]

Logically he would have formed all the sandy helmet parts at once then went on to assemble them rather than just forming one then assembling it and go back to form another.But Andrew and logical shouldn't be used in the same sentence unfortunetly. And yeah it's commen knowledge that the sandies were made first then refined a little for the stormies. It's a nice theory you have though.

 

[hallam]

logically he would have been trying to fullfil whatever Lucas needed to shoot the next day (or whenever).

For some reason it is an iron law of big budget movies that the critical props are always ordered sometime past the last minute. So the first scenes to be shot (possibly rehearsed) would be the first props to be made.

Didn't the guy have other employees to support his business making panels for cars? So the idea that anyone would be tracking which helmet came out of the mould first or got painted or whatever is a bit odd. Think bunch of mechanics making props for low budget space movie with unknown director...

Oh and there is no Internet in those days and very few bookstores that would carry books on prop making.

Logically the guy on the vac press makes helmets and put them in a stack next to it. Then the pile of helmets is taken to the next guy and he starts work on whatever is on the top of the pile. Then someone drops the stack and....

 

[Luke Warmwater]

You mean this one?


Move along helmet by WF&DT, on Flickr


May I have a moment alone? by WF&DT, on Flickr

 

[TK765]

The other flaw/assembly issue is the face is rotated too far to the right side.