Monks are generally NOT WOMEN (Momoa's Conan griping)

Discussion in 'Entertainment and Movie Talk' started by Nwerke, Nov 17, 2011.

  1. Nwerke

    Nwerke Master Member

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    I'm trying to watch it. And there's this monastery, see? Faux Tibetan style, and there's an attack, and for some reason the bad guys drag a *ship* up to the gates of the monastery, which causes alarm because somehow the four days of effort and loud grunting it took to achieve this didn't register with anybody inside, presumably they were way too busy contemplating the omphalos of the world or achieving enlightenment or something.

    And I'm still trying to get my head around that, when there's all this talk about monks. At the monastery. Which would be reasonable enough except that we haven't seen any - all we've seen is Jacopo Mugatu 'teaching' a group of nubile, slinky young women in white shifts.

    And then attack. White shift girl flees. Bad guy chase scene. Suddenly Conan. Rescues ensue, or kidnaps, hard to tell. More talk about invisible monks. And then this gem:

    Rescued/kidnapped nubile slinky girl: "I'm just a simple monk"

    - uhwaitwhat...the GIRLS were the MONKS? The MONKS were the GIRLS?! *, creepy or what, they don't have big hands or high foreheads or anything. It's a trap, but you can't tell, man! You can't tell!

    Somebody please tell me - what language is spoken in Hollywood? Much of it is eerily similar to English, but it's not that.
     
  2. Angelus Lupus

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    I'll give you a clue: It starts with "bull"
     
  3. ihs

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  4. Nwerke

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    Yep, yep, I know about the Conan thread, ta though. The point of this one was more to moan about horrible Hollywood manglish.

    Another one: calling a female officer 'sir'. It's like telling her you think she's Lady Gaga. Or calling a king or queen 'your highness', which is demoting them.

    I was recently present at an event where a local TV presenter did that to the queen - the real queen, HM Queen Elizabeth the Second. Cringearama!
     
  5. ihs

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    I have to plead ignorance on this one; if I ever came face-to-face with a king or queen, I think I'd politely bow my head and keep my mouth shut. The saying "I'd rather be quiet and let people think I'm a fool than open my mouth and remove all doubt" applies here. :lol

    Incidentally, and not that I'll ever be in this situation, but how does one address a king/queen? Is it "Your Majesty?" Is "Sir" or "Ma'am" appropriate?
     
  6. Angelus Lupus

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    "Your Majesty" is the correct form for addressing the monarch. "Highness" is for Princes and Princesses. ("Grace" for Dukes and Duchesses and I think Lord/Lady for most others).
    Queen Elizabeth II prefers the less formal "Ma'am" pronounced to rhyme with "ham", not "harm".
     
  7. Kerr Avon

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    I'd go with "hows it hanging Liz?"
     
  8. Nwerke

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    Eric, good plan, me too, ha ha. I did meet her once but I was only nine and it was just a crowd walk-by deal.

    Both - it's generally "Your Majesty" in the first instance and "Sir" or "Ma'am" thereafter. ("Your Highness" is for princes and princesses.) IIRC there are also more formal situations where you keep up the full shebang.

    You definitely don't want to cheek her with "Queenie" or "Your Queen-ness" or that sort of thing though, or so I'm told, as she's got more experience putting mere mortals in their place than almost anyone else alive. :lol

    Edit: Kerr, she'd squash you like a bug. :lol
     
  9. Angelus Lupus

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    I would love to see someone try cheeking the Queen (maybe getting handsy), only for her to pull mace or a taser out of her handbag and drop the sucker while smiling sweetly and saying something like "Sod Orf!"
     
  10. pennausamike

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    I don't care for this one, either.
    This is how things are with the new female police captain on "Castle".
    She said her mother was "ma'am", she is "sir" or "captain".
    Calling a woman "sir" seems like calling a woman "boy" or "man", to me.

    But there is a real-world equivalent.
    This is also cultural.
    I have no idea how to address royalty.
    In part because of a lack of cultural exposure to that etiquette,
    and in part due to fundamental distaste for the concept of "royalty".
    Socially I don't view anyone as better than me, up OR down the social ladder.
    A noble, polite, hard-working trash-collector is a better person than a philandering, lazy, stupid "royal".
    So, I'd be just as likely to "mis-address" a king or queen, and not even know to cringe.

    But I agree with your main point, Hollywood has its own special brand of distorting the meaning of words.

    Mike
     
  11. Jack T Chance

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    Here's what's even weirder.... In the credits at the end of the film, the actresses that played the monks were credited with the role of "Nuns"! o_O

    Ummm.... Bad translation from the original Hyborian Age language(s)? ;)
     
    Last edited: Nov 27, 2011
  12. Too Much Garlic

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    Yeah, that was one of the WTF moments in that film - girl monks?!?? Still prefer the old one.
     
  13. Nwerke

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    Nuns, ha! Gotta be usage-* editorialising on the part of the credits team. You'd expect those folks to have some grasp of language...guess they wanted to show it, lol.
     
  14. Too Much Garlic

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    Maybe have the credits guys work on the script in the future.
     

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