Mission: Impossible - Fallout (2018) - Nuke remote trigger device

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  1. sschueller

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    Hi everyone,

    My first post :). I want to build the beautiful trigger device they had in the movie and I am looking for some input regarding parts if anyone has any suggestions on sources. I think I will make it into an egg timer or maybe an alarm clock.

    Has anyone else already started a project to build a replica of this thing?

    My initial plan is to model the whole thing in the Fusion 360 and 3d print a mock up to get the size.

    The rotary encoder and antenna on top seem quite standard as well as the flip trigger. However the red key thing and black thing below I can't quite place. The display appears to be an LCD with two different backlights or possibly an OLED.

    I also don't have any high res screen caps so I can't make out what it says on the buttons. If anyone has a better image that be great.

    I will add to this thread my progress.

    Here are some screens:

    vlcsnap-2018-09-29-21h24m46s550.png vlcsnap-2018-09-29-21h32m21s811.png vlcsnap-2018-09-29-21h24m57s758.png CropperCapture[159].png

    Parts found so far:

    My Key:
    (v) = Verified the item which was used in original
    (m) = Matches
    (a) = Appears to match
    (s) = Similar
    (c) = Custom made
    (?) = unknown

    - (a) Antenna -> appears to be a regular 433 Mhz 5db with SMA connector (1pcs 433Mhz Antenna 5dbi With Sma Male Connector for Walkie Talkie Baofeng Interphone-in Antennas for Communications from Cellphones & Telecommunications on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group)

    - (s) Red button flip cover -> SCHUTZ 20-26 - Sicherheitsabdeckungen, rt

    - (?) Rubber recessed buttons -> Looks like a custom set of rubber buttons. Should be able to get those made if we can get the correct labels and dimensions.

    - (s) Display -> LCD appears to be CGI. This RGB LCD would fit: IPS 2.4 inch 262K SPI TFT LCD Screen with Adapter Board ILI9341 Drive IC 8/16Bit Interface 240(RGB)*320-in LCD Modules from Electronic Components & Supplies on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group

    - (a) Rotary encoder -> 3 PC Guitar and Bass metal knob volume and tone knob guitar replacement-in Guitar Parts & Accessories from Sports & Entertainment on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group

    - (?) Key -> Looks custom or like some sort of military / aviation connector?

    - (?) Screws -> appear to be standard M2 or M2.5, may also be rivets but difficult to tell from the screens


    I created a parametric model based on the screens I have. You can download it here: MI: Fallout remote trigger prop by sschueller . It is incomplete at this time and most likely not accurate. If you make changes or improvements please let me know.
     
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  2. Lycaon

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    Re: MISSION:IMPOSSIBLE FALLOUT Nuke remote trigger device

    I had the same idea (fusion360 + 3D printing). Unfortunately the Blu-ray/digital release date isn't till November/December, so its gonna be a while till we get good reference images.
     
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  3. Lycaon

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  4. sschueller

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    Thanks, sadly that one doesn't match the one in the screens. It seems the be most popular one and I have been finding it all over the place. The one in the screens appears to be more symmetric and has no visible bolts on the side.

    EDIT: It looks quite similar to this one http://elcodis.com/parts/1791777/26PN.html . Just without the hole which doesn't appear to be an option.
     
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  5. Lycaon

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  6. Lycaon

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    I managed to get some higher res images of the prop.
    Screen Shot 2018-10-01 at 10.01.19 PM.png Screen Shot 2018-10-01 at 9.58.45 PM.png Screen Shot 2018-10-01 at 10.06.52 PM.png Screen Shot 2018-10-01 at 9.58.19 PM.png Screen Shot 2018-10-01 at 10.07.25 PM.png
     
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    Looking around for an LCD, I can't find anything that really fits.

    Some observations:
    - There is a black frame around the display which is quite common with charter and graphic LCD displays
    - There is a slight yellow or red background which would indicated a inverted LCD module and not OLED as that would have a complete black background
    - The viewing angles is quite extreme in some of the screens so that would again point towards OLED as LCD (unless IPS) does not have a great viewing angle.
    - The resolution of the text in the screens is quite high which would point more towards a regular LCD (like a phone or tv) but those never have a black plastic boarder around them.
    - The LCD could be CGI :(

    I found this which is a bit too large and only one color. Also the resolution is too low in my opinion.
    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Whi...2864-OLED-Display-Module-IIC/32839780525.html
     
  9. Lycaon

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    I think they most definitely did screen replacement in post-production, the display looks way too sharp and the environment lighting doesn’t really seem to affect the display.
    I’ve been trying to find the typefaces they’ve used, to recreate the screen graphics in After Effects but I haven’t found anything yet. Looks like I may have to build my own font which is a major pain.
     
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  10. sschueller

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    Makes sense since it would also make it easier in the cutting room to switch scenes and make sure the timer reads the correct time. Now I hope there will be some DVD extras with a shot of the actual device before post production hopefully with a screen and not a green mask :/.
     
  11. Lycaon

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    I began working on my model today. I started by importing all the images into Photoshop to correct for all of the perspectives and then 'patched' them into one image so I could get a better idea of what I was looking at. I then brought it into Fusion360 and calibrated the image to the dimensions of the flip-switch I found (whilst accounting for z-depth) and started sketching. My overall model is a bit smaller when compared to yours, so I may have made a mistake. I have to say though, your file is way way more organised than mine. Also I'm guessing that the LEDs are 3mm, 5mm feels a bit too big.
    Also I've been looking at the flip-switch cover some more and they're going for 90$ a pop, I may need to model that too.
     
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  12. sschueller

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    Did you happen do find the flip switch without a hole from apem? I can only find one with the hole and like you said they are quite expensive. I added the one with the hole (apex has the 3d models on their website if you login) to my model.
     
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  13. Lycaon

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    Look at my earlier post, I found one without the hole. Series 26pn sells anywhere from $80-100 CAD
     
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    The 26pn appears to be shaped a bit different. There is a bevel, see picture below. Anyhow because of the price I think I will try to buy a cheap one on ebay and 3d print the lid to match. I removed the hole in the flip guard in my model on thingiverse.

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    Do you have any experience in 3d printing semi flex materials? I was thinking of printing the device in a material similar to hard rubber.
     
  15. sschueller

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    I modeled more parts (update on https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3129088).

    - The key is modeled correctly with the rubber cap and prongs.
    - Added some screws (M1.6) and adjusted the holes to fit
    - Adjusted LCD cutout for 1.8" graphic LCD (https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-8-COG-12...erial-ST7565P-3v-w-RGB-Backlight/291037052683)
    - I still need to decypher the remaining buttons however.

    Here is a render from Fusion 360

    Remote Trigger v92.png Remote Trigger v92v2.png

    Funny thing when you look at screen caps over and over you notice all kinds of "mistakes". For example in the screens of the laptop showing the device the white line on the key goes in the opposite direction as on the actual device in the movie. You can also notice a shift in the LCD counter when jumping between frames which clearly point to it being CGI. In one scene the antenna is completely bent and broken, later it is in one piece again :)
     
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  16. Lycaon

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    Whilst Tom Cruise was out of commission due to his broken ankle, the script went through major rewrites and what portions of the movie they had was heavily modified. Continuity must have been a nightmare!
     
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    The font appears to be Anvylon Regular or very similar (https://www.myfonts.com/fonts/crestaco/anvylon/regular/glyphs.html)
     
  18. The Searcher

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    Good job on the 3D model! However, I would recommended double checking the display’s aspect ratio.
     
  19. Lycaon

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    *, you hit the nail on the head. How on Earth did you manage to find it, I tried running it through one of those online font image analysis things and got nothing. I'll start working on the screen graphics right now.
     
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    The display is not according to the movie right now as the only LCD I could find so far is that size I have in the model. I am still looking for an LCD that matches better so I can adjust the model back to how it is in the movie. :)

    - - - Updated - - -

    I used https://www.myfonts.com/WhatTheFont/ but had to go through a few pages until I found it. The 0 and 1 is what I was looking for.
     
  21. Lycaon

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    Are you hoping to make the prop fully interactive ie: the rotary encoder drives the countdown and the flip switch activates it? I have no idea how to do that stuff, so I think I'm gonna lay-off of doing the animation until I can figure out what's required.
     
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    I was thinking of making it interactive with an arduino but I am not sure what exactly it would do. Maybe you can dial a time with the rotary encoder and have it count down if you flip the switch. Maybe an egg timer or an alarm clock? You set the alarm time with the rotary encode and then flip the switch to enable or disable the alarm.
     
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    Does anyone have any pictures of the back? I can only find blurry screens of the back. There appears to be some sort of clip but it's unclear.

    Latest work with alternate larger LCD:
    Remote Trigger Alt v110 v10.png
     
  24. Farrells Props

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    I was waiting for this thread to be started when I saw the prop for the first in the film. Amazing work!
     
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  25. sschueller

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    Some updates:

    - I found the flipcover (with hole) for around USD 28.- (SCHUTZ 20-26 - Sicherheitsabdeckungen, rt)
    - I integrated a color LCD (IPS 2.4 inch 262K SPI TFT LCD Screen with Adapter Board ILI9341 Drive IC 8/16Bit Interface 240(RGB)*320-in LCD Modules from Electronic Components & Supplies on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group)
    - Latest version is "Remote Trigger Alt v110 v48.f3d" on thingiverse which uses the color TFT LCD.

    What I need some help with it trying to figure out how to make the connector for the key (the round thing that gets plugged in next to the flip switch guard). In the movie it appears to be two pins but I don't know of any connector like that. I was thinking of using a USB connector but they are too deep to fit in the case.

    Additionally I have no experience with finishing 3d printer parts to look like they do in the movie. Any suggestions would be very welcome. I usually print in PETG as it keeps the dimensions the best.
     
  26. sschueller

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    I wrote some code for an ESP32 to simulate the timer. "Scanning" is when the ESP32 is looking for wifi, then when connected it shows "Linked". The signal strength bars is the actual wifi signal strength from the ESP32. Rotary knob can be pushed to control either the minutes, seconds or milliseconds. The red LED on the board is the "Safe On" button light.

    Sorry the LCD colors don't come out right over the video but they are the same as in the movie. I am also still dealing with a bit of flickering even though I am using the HW SPI bus now.

    Here is a quick video:

    P.S.: Yes it's white and the LCD shines through, I didn't have any black PETG left :). I may paint this one or print another one.
     
  27. Lycaon

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    How 'sandable' is PETG? I've only ever used PLA which is an absolute nightmare, I have to use automotive filler primer before I can even think of sanding it. I'm curious as to what sort of results you get from PETG because I've just about run out of filament and need to restock.
     
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    I prefer it over PLA although it is a bit harder to print. The dimensions are much more accurate (it doesn't shrink much) and it tends to bend instead of snap unlike PLA. However for good results you need to make sure your filament is dry and you need to print slower than PLA. You also have to use a heated bed or it will warp.

    When it comes to post processing I have zero experience so I can't tell you how it is to sand.
     
  29. bend215

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    Great work, everyone! Has anyone had any luck identifying the firing key? I've scoured the internet, but haven't had any luck. We know it is knurled, has a red inside with two oddly-shaped prongs, and it has a lid. Any ideas for where it could have come from?
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  30. Lycaon

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    I've tried everything from circuit breakers, kill switches, battery isolators. I'll let you know the second I find something, but it may be a scratch built component, I don't know.
     
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    Yeah, I originally thought it was a scratch built component. But the more that I look at it, the more that I think that it was at least based on an existing part. Especially considering the part has a red interior with small screws (?) opposite the protruding contacts.
     
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    Looks like it could be a military / aviation waterproof connector without a cable attached and the end cut short. They usually have a cap of some sort and come with many different pin configurations.

    Something like this: GX16 Waterproof Aviation Connector Plug Socket Sensor Encoder 2/3/4/5/6 Pin New JUL10 dropship-in Connectors from Lights & Lighting on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group
     
  33. bend215

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    I agree. This is what I was leaning towards as well. Do we have an approximate outer diameter of the connector? This might help us narrow it down a bit.

    I've also never seen this oddly-shaped 2-pin configuration either. I've been searching and haven't found anything remotely similar.
     
  34. sschueller

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    In my model the outer diameter is 16.5mm but I did size up the model slightly for the LCD so something like 15-16mm could be the actual size.
     
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    I think the key may be custom. I went through hundreds of items at Enabling The Electronics Revolution | Amphenol and other places. I can't find anything that matches, especially odd is that rectangular pins as it seems an odd choice for any connector to not use round or square pins.

    On another note, I am making progress on getting a PCB for the Electronics :) :
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  36. zapwizard

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    Here is my guess on those contacts. They look like the back-end of a over-mold contact. The end that is normally embedded in the plastic. Specifically it looks like the back-half of a US electrical outlet terminal. These normally have a hole, but sometimes they have a half-round like seen in the image.
     
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    Great job on the trigger so far! One thing I’d like to point out is that the numbers should turn red at the 5 minute mark instead of the one minute mark. Also, I found some screen grabs from a better transfer than the Chinese bootleg:
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    Some more work in progress. Testing the PCB now but will need to make another run as some of the parts are off. I may also switch to a ESP32 dev board as there is room for it and it makes it easier with less SMD parts.

    Can anyone recommend a good place to do SLS 3d printing? I think the case would come out quite nicely with the rough finish of a SLS black carbon nylon print.
     

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  39. Rymo

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    Great job so far! I just watched this movie a few weeks ago, and my first thought was "I wonder if anyone on the RPF has attempted to build a replica of that detonator?"
     

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