McQuarrie Stormtrooper Thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars Costumes and Props' started by imaginager, Dec 15, 2005.

  1. imaginager

    imaginager Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Pics are in post 114.
     
  2. glim999

    glim999 Sr Member

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    Wow. Great work. I've always loved the concept troopers. Can't wait to see more
     
  3. Seeker

    Seeker Well-Known Member

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    Sweet work. Keep it up.
     
  4. Lord Abaddon

    Lord Abaddon Sr Member

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    Whoa...very nice. I too would love to see one completed.
     
  5. Funky

    Funky Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    How cool would a set of THAT armor be?. :love
     
  6. JaseTheHACK

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    That's a great sculpt. Well done.

    It looks like it'd be a piece of cake to vac mold in two pieces.

    J
     
  7. Jimbo890

    Jimbo890 Well-Known Member

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    WOW, nice.
     
  8. blufive

    blufive Sr Member

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    Wow. Beautiful.
     
  9. darth_sayder

    darth_sayder New Member

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    Cool sculpt, cant wait to see finished product
     
  10. Trallis

    Trallis Well-Known Member

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    awesome idea for a project and awesome sculpt. keep us posted on this.
    My one observation(not a criticism) is that he last illustration shows the helmet having a real mean look to it. yours looks less mean than that one, but i assume you were working off of the other pics too, where it isnt mean at all.. once again, great sculpt
     
  11. moffeaton

    moffeaton Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    That is gorgeous... I love the clean lines... would have loved to have seen this sculpt in the prequels.
     
  12. Stormy320

    Stormy320 Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Wow - that looks great.
     
  13. Yorpheus

    Yorpheus Well-Known Member

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    I agree. I think it's the shape of the eyes. The ones in the illustrations being slightly more rectangular shaped with rounded corners, and the sculpted eyes being more almond-shaped.

    Looks friggin' awesome, man.
     
  14. deralis

    deralis Well-Known Member

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    I'd be cool to see the full armor w/lightsaber and shield....
     
  15. SithLord

    SithLord Sr Member

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    Woah...nice work.

    :cheers,

    t
     
  16. Boba Frett

    Boba Frett Sr Member

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    Great work... :thumbsup :thumbsup
     
  17. Armidala

    Armidala New Member

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    WOW
     
  18. Tim Allen

    Tim Allen Sr Member

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    wow thats spectacular...Ive always wanted tio sculpt one of these. Im assume thats clay??? And if so...what kind? I always fear of using clay because once it dry's it will shrink 2x. Did you use a specific "treated" clay to avoid this?
     
  19. B-Movie Zombie

    B-Movie Zombie Sr Member

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    Oh My. :eek
     
  20. voice in the crowd

    voice in the crowd Sr Member

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    WOW that looks fantastic :)



    I agree on the eye shape needing a small change but I think possibly the lack of (lifeless chilling) lenses and the frown not being painted add to it not looking so mean. I think with the frown and lenses in place it will look mean enough :D

    Do you have a normal helmet to put next to it to get an impression of scale?


    Brilliant work :thumbsup

    Cheers Chris
     
  21. Star Wars Helmets

    Star Wars Helmets Sr Member

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    That is really great work

    One suggestion I have would be over the back. You's has the droopy "fettled tumbelhome" we all know and love :lol, whereas it looks like the McQuarrie had a more angled rear section/undercut.

    Looking superb though

    Cheers

    Jez
     
  22. HDPE

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    Very cool.
     
  23. hollywoodhardware

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    Love it.

    Thomas
     
  24. phase pistol

    phase pistol Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Sweet. :D :thumbsup

    Realizing you're not finished, and that yours is a your own interpretation, AND that each McQuarrie sketch has different details (and none is "real" :lol ), here are my observations, humbly submitted for your consideration.

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    - I think one key to the McQ "look" is the severe downward curve of the side tubes and "long, flat" face.

    - the top dome is very flat, and so is the brow

    - the one-piece eye "goggle" has a sharp, inward bevel coming back from the flat surface of the face (not a raised "rim" as on yours)

    - the center of the mouth is deeper (vertically) than the sides, by a considerable amount (the top "lip" curves sharply up, the lower lip is parallel to the front edge of the faceplate). note also the texture (or probably engraved lines) on the "floor" of the mouth cutout.

    - note how deeply recessed the center "knob" under the mouth is; the lower "lip" of the faceplate is kind of a "hood" over the chin cavity.

    - the two downward "plugs" or "aerators" on the chin diverge sharply outward

    - although the first two of four McQuarrie concepts (which I reproduced at the bottom for comparison) feature an upward, circular curve at the temples which "bites into" the top cap, other representations show a flat rim to the top cap all around, which, if nothing else, I prefer :D

    - in a related issue, the back part of the helmet seems to overlap the faceplate (as tho they were two vacformed pieces), lacking a separate "ear piece" like the final helmet has.

    What do you think? :)

    - karl
     
  25. MegaPrime33

    MegaPrime33 Well-Known Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I have always been a huge fan of the concept art. This is incredible. Great job.
     
  26. Clutch

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    I'm not crazy about the red cap. :)
     
  27. Betamin

    Betamin Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    That looks great...
     
  28. pnerves

    pnerves New Member

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    Amazing. You wouldn't have a front view of the McQuarrie TIE concept would you?
     
  29. fettster

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    that looks amazing.

    I think it will definatly be better as a fibreglass cast rather than vacuum form.
    It has really nice, sharp edges and it would be a shame to lose those
     
  30. Darksaber212

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    Awesome job. Can't wait to see the finished piece. :thumbsup
     
  31. Ghost Host

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    pretty cool.
     
  32. imaginager

    imaginager Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Pics are in post 114.
     
  33. Clutch

    Clutch Master Member

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    the caps from push-ups?
     
  34. imaginager

    imaginager Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Push-ups? I'm not even sure what those are? Well, my football coach - back in the day - wasn't certain I knew what they were, either. So, nothing's changed there... :D

    BTW, someone asked about the clay. It's Klean Klay.
     
  35. phase pistol

    phase pistol Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Well, I am a man of strong convictions. :lol

    I see what you're saying... you really did shoot for that "Older Stormtrooper" look as opposed to the concept sketches. Fair enough.

    I would point out tho that the "OS" you're referencing appears to me to have been done "after the fact"... not really as a preliminary design sketch prior to 1977, but perhaps as a re-imagining of what an earlier Trooper design might look like. I can't prove that, it just seems logical to me given how different the OS design is from the "Art of Star Wars" sketches.

    - k
     
  36. Clutch

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    A push-up is orange flavored sherbet in a push up tube.
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    :p
     
  37. Hairyloft

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    That is looking the business, Love the concept idea of using Ralph Mcquarrie's art the stormtrooper and Mandalarian concept stuff is very cool. I'll keep watching for updates.
     
  38. imaginager

    imaginager Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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  39. phase pistol

    phase pistol Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Oh I see... that's your avatar. :p

    No, no criticism intended... just pointin' stuff out. :D

    I note that even in your avatar, the aspirators point outward, away from a recessed chin piece... in the OS painting they point inward off of the side tubes... as in the final trooper helmet design. That's one of the things I was keying off of. But that sketch your posted last, which is in Art of Star Wars and is definitely pre-production art, does quite closely resemble the OS painting.

    Did I mention I like your version as well. :D :thumbsup

    - k
     
  40. Clutch

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    I love the concept of Stormtroopers with lightsabers.
     
  41. phase pistol

    phase pistol Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    BTW where does that "Old Stormtrooper" painting come from? I had been assuming it was from the book "The Illustrated Star Wars Universe", but it ain't in there. :confused

    - K
     
  42. phase pistol

    phase pistol Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Ah yes, the Original Concept, before the Dark Times, before "Episode IV"... :lol

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    Yeah those proto-stormtroopers roaming the corridors brandishing one-handed saber and shield are quite a sight. :D

    I had forgotten a couple of years ago Hasbro issued an action figure of the McQuarrie Stormtrooper. But the sculpt sucks Ronto eggs.

    http://www.galactichunter.com/reviews/03sa...tormtrooper.asp

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    The fig is actually pretty lame... mine broke seconds out of the package. :(

    The Trooper Saber on the fig does look quite a bit like this "McQ" saber that I had made for me a few years back tho. :p

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    - K
     
  43. DL 44 Blaster

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    *.. I knew someone would have beaten me to this :lol


    The helmet looks AWESOME... I agree on the lenses needing to look "meaner". Perhaps bringing them up to the top with only a radius at the bottom rather than having them come together like a tear.

    Steve
     
  44. troopermaster

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    Top job on the sculpts Allan :thumbsup

    Your helmet will look awesome when it's vacuum formed.You are putting ideas in my head with these sculpts buddy. I have always liked the concept drawings too.

    Keep up the good work.

    Fantastic.

    -Paul.
     
  45. Darth Kahnt

    Darth Kahnt Sr Member

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    Very well done. I am a huge fan of Ralph's work and your piece is a great tribute to his work.
     
  46. OldKen

    OldKen Master Member

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    cool stuff, ive been saying for years someone needed to do this, and i see your working on a vader as well eh?


    deffinately keep us posted...


    man paul, just when your trooper is nearing completion, people have to go and put other projects in your head... LOL...

    cool stuff.
     
  47. KevVader

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    ....very cool. :thumbsup ....are you going to tackle the armor as well?
     
  48. lonepigeon

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    It's from The Mos Eisley Cantina Pop-up book (1995).
    The painting was a new one done for that book though. It's not original ANH concept art.
     
  49. imaginager

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    Pics are in post 114.
     
  50. phase pistol

    phase pistol Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Do we really know if the Cantina Popup Trooper (as I shall dub thee :lol ) illo was actually painted by McQuarrie at all? Or is it just done in the style of McQuarrie?

    - k
     

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