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Marvel's The Defenders (Netflix)
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Riceball
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I believe that The Defenders doesn't start until August so you still have some time. I'd probably start around late June/early July so you won't have too long before the end of Iron Fist and when The Defenders start.
Well, the brief interaction they showed between IF and LC in the trailer already looks like fun.
matty matt
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I'm still working my way through Iron Fist but this looks great. Can't wait to see them all together.
firesprite
Master Member
Danny looks marginally not as horrible as in his own show. Hopefully being around Charlie Cox who actually learned to fight shamed him into putting more time and effort into training.
https://www.google.com/amp/io9.gizm...f-that-happens-in-iron-fist-so-1793445273/amp
If you don't want to watch Iron Fist before The Defenders.
If you don't want to watch Iron Fist before The Defenders.
Riceball
Master Member
The thing is, I don't think that it was Finn Jones' fault, based on everything that I've read so far it seems like it was the production's fault, bad choreography combined with little time to practice made for bad fight scenes. Unless he came to the role as an ace fighter from the get go ala Jackie Chan or Jet Li there's no way that Finn could have done any better, even if he himself practiced more, I'd argue that even Jackie Chan and Jet Li would have had a hard time if they were only given a short amount of time to learn their fight choreography for a scene.
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firesprite
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I will grant that, to a point, though when you are adapting a property like Iron Fist, there should be the understanding from everyone involved that the fighting has to be superb. It's kind of his whole shtick. However, the characterization of Danny was also terrible. Part of that was the weak script, but a lot of it was also the fact that Finn just has no freaking gravitas. He came off as an idiot at every turn because he was doing this 'hippy dippy surfer *** martial arts master' thing. And don't even get me started on the relationship between him and Colleen....
Fawbish
Sr Member
Im finding if you view it in the light of "12 year old kid learns nothing about the adult world but grows up believing he is a weapon" it does ease the characterisation a little.
Still doesnt resonate with me and I havent finished the last 4 eps yet, but looking back its better to use that filter. Which fits the narrative.
firesprite
Master Member
Allow me to clarify: my issue is less with Danny (because I do bear in mind that he's mentally and emotionally stunted), but with the fact that no one calls him on it and says "Hey, this isn't cool."
Fawbish
Sr Member
Absolutely - I don't think I'd actually realised that's what annoyed me, but its perfect. It doesn't keep the verisimilitude alive because there arent realistic reactions to his actions.
But not to keep on with negative stuff, it is what it is. The Defenders trailer has me excited. I loved the use of Nirvana, gave the whole thing a nice grungy feel. I'm more than happy to see Jessica Jones come back into play.
And of course - there is no life without Matt Murdock. That guy :love
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