Making that old MPC Snow Speeder kit shine!

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  1. 3d-builder

    3d-builder Sr Member

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    Hey guys i think this is a great little kit and I always have!
    There are a lot of things I like about it and think it's worth
    the time to make it just a bit more accurate. I made a video
    but have some pics first sorry about that.

    What I am thinking to do is and have done so far:

    Sand all raised detail off the hulls including panel lines (DONE)
    Sand all parts that have unnecessary details such as ribbing (In Process)
    Build a new seating for the cockpit
    Scribe panel lines

    I am trying not to get to crazy with it.....but
    lets see what happens, the list above could grow on
    the fly! I wanted a build up that would allow for some scratch
    building, but allow me to get into painting
    relatively quickly and enjoy what the model kit
    offers. LOL

    Kind of a model to relax to between the escape pod and
    A-wing figure I would let G catch up on his A-wing then I
    would get back to it.......good enough excuse eh? Anyway
    I love the speeder and hopefully you guys will like it and it
    will kick start some more!

    Ok first off i sanded all the raised panel lines off the hulls
    top and bottom, same with the engine boxes front and rear,
    and all the funky out of place raised detail and ribbing. As an example
    if you know the kit the ribbing on the laser cannons comes to mind.
    I think for a kit MPC did a great job the first stage coming out of
    the big rear box, but the second stage not so good! So i did
    some sanding of the ribbing and cut away a piece of it you will
    see in the pictures. The laser cannons were a quick fix which consisted
    of sanding the raised ribbing on the surface and fitting to brass compression
    fitting for the tips. The seam lines were bad at the tips and sanding only
    proved to eat them up more and destroy the shape. I left some of the plastic
    tip and fitted the compression fitting over the top so it fits
    snug.

    Ok in this picture you can see the original kit part in my hand
    I sanded the ribbing off and cleaved off the funky end. You can see the finished
    part on the model. Looking at the Studio scale model it looked to me that the diameter
    there was the same as the laser cannon in the front, so that's what i went for. I just
    used some evergreen tube and fit it in after i opened up the front.
    http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a40/3dimensionalmanagement/MPC Snow Speeder Kit build up/007.jpg

    In this picture you can see i drilled through so i could run
    the plastic tube through both parts. This allowed me to
    set the rear box and the front box in place, then push
    the tube until it hit the rear fascia of the front box. I dropped
    a little solvent on it and locked it in place, the rest was trimmed
    away in the big box because the housing for the rear break has
    to be fitted latter.
    http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a40/3dimensionalmanagement/MPC Snow Speeder Kit build up/002.jpg

    One done....
    http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a40/3dimensionalmanagement/MPC Snow Speeder Kit build up/005.jpg

    Both done...
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  2. youngwm

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    Looks like you are off to a good start and have a good plan!!! Can't wait to check out the progress..
     
  3. 3d-builder

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    Thanks guys much appreciated as always!!

    I got into making the windows a little taller
    and wider, I used tape to mark them off.
    If you do it with pencil there is
    to much handling involved during filing
    and you loose your reference marks.
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  4. yuumi2891103

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    Yahoo!!
    I have been dieing to see your next build :lol
     
  5. ozzyguanche

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    Actualy I think it's a great kit as well. Will be watching the progress with interest.

    Ozzy
     
  6. 3d-builder

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    Thanks guys...:thumbsup

    Ok i wanted to make that little sensor area in the front
    of that speeder a lil more accurate, it was a raised panel
    shape prior i sanded that off. Marked it off drilled a few
    holes for pilots and then filed it all out.
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    I used some evergreen V-groove plastic it's so small you can't see the
    grooves in the picture.....but the scale of the grooves works well.
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    Ok i found out i needed to do a little filing of the tub to get the
    evergreen V-groove to fit, and I had to sand off the two little
    placement tabs for tub as well.
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    All nice....
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  7. 3d-builder

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    Ok onto that dreaded cockpit and tub.....well it's not that bad.

    Just started by taking some measurements to get some heights and
    widths. I am going to build new back to back seats in here, one that
    looks like the Fine Molds 1/48 scale speeder. Before I did anything
    i carefully scribed out the original seating assembly. I didnt want to
    attack it with a dremel because I wanted to remove it clean. I cut a new bottom
    out of some plastic stock and glued it in place.
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    The tiny FM seating arrangement and the beginning
    of the side frame template for my seat.That's the
    only template i created for the seat i just worked
    on the fly after that. I used some Evergreen sheet
    a V Grove pattern so it would have some detail.
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    The kit's head rest was way to long if you ask me
    so i used to chunky pieces of evergreen stock
    and sanded it to shape.
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    The pilots....LOL I know these figures that came with this
    kit get a bad review every time ......deservedly so! I am
    going to try to have mercy on them! LOL I have no idea
    what I am going to do, but pretty sure those heads have
    to come off and arms shortened! That's if i keep them i am
    leaving this totally open if it doesn't work out I will source
    something else. I did cut them at the knees and get them to sit well
    in the seats, i will fill the knees with clay and clean them up later.
    The figure is hollow on the backside so they sit low, their shoulders
    are not up high enough, so i will have to build under the legs and give them
    some booty to get them raised up! LOL The (3rd) picture shows the correct height
    they need to sit at.
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  8. 3d-builder

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    Ok the instrumentation......
    Because the speeder has this back to back seating arrangement,
    it's impossible to adjust the seats forward or aft in the tub without
    changing the distance from the instrumentation.To solve the monkey
    are dilemma that plagues this kit i shimmed in back the rear instrumentation,
    so it would sit closer to the figure/ rear gunner. I just cut a piece of styrene
    to fit and did a bit of sanding to make everything fit.
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  9. Dedalus5550

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    I think this is one of the better (the best, perhaps) kits from the MPC liine-up. I mean this in the sense that when I first saw most of these models (perhaps all of them) I had seen the movies once or twice, I was only in my teens, yet I still saw serious shape flaws. But not with this bad boy (excepting the shape of the pilots). For instance, if the MF really had the same dimensions as the MPC kit, it wouldn't be more than a side note for me as far as modeling subjects go. If the studio model speeder were exactly like the MPC kit, I'd be totally satisfied (as long as normally-proportioned humans could sit in it). By this measure, I like this kit. I've got three in the stash, and would rather part with FM speeders I have instead (and they also have accuracy issues).
    Mike Todd
     
  10. 3d-builder

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    More with the seating......

    I wanted to get started with the angle
    pieces that come off the seat,s and span
    out to the sides of the tub. To do this
    I used some square stock from my evergreen
    supply.
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    I filled the sides with some evergreen strip.
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    In the first picture the shoulders have been trimmed to
    a lower angle, the second picture shows how
    it fits correctly in the tub, and does not come through
    the canopy.The third picture i wanted to show that i
    had filled the holes at the top of the shoulder with
    some Apoxie sculpt.
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  11. 3d-builder

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    Things were looking a little blah inside so i decided
    to add some more evergreen strip on the sides,
    i used some channel.This also helped to begin to
    figure out exactly where the seats would sit, as
    the channel is on each side and the seats sit
    in the middle of it.
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    Next i really felt it needed a little texture
    on the sides underneath the channel. So
    i found the small square pattern from
    my evergreen supply. I had to keep inserting
    the front instrumentation mark some lines,
    and then make a template that would fit
    below the channel and be cut out so the
    front instrumentation could drop in. The same
    was done for the rear.
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  12. 3d-builder

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    I worked on the canopy and a bit on
    the lower hull. On the canopy i just
    added some of the same evergreen
    sheet i used on the side walls of the
    tub. So it has a matching design wanted
    it to have sort of a padded look.This mod
    will not allow me to use the clear canopy
    part that came with the kit, that's
    ok i will go with out the clear part like the
    original filming miniature.
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    On the lower hull i added a piece of polystyrene
    at the back to close off the area like it is on
    the filming miniature, i also used some Apoxie
    Sculpt to fill in the runners that span to the front.
    You can see a gap the way the kit was designed
    and it was pretty bad, so I felt i needed to do something
    about that. At the front of the lower hull it comes up short
    and you can see a gap there also, so again I added some polystyrene
    to even it up.This also allows for a gluing surface to the top hull
    where there wasn't one there before.
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  13. 3d-builder

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    Decided to jump around a bit and worked on the rear heat sink
    a bit. The part from the kit is not bad but has some issues. The
    fins are a little rounded over on the edges so i sanded them flat,
    and at the ends they have this wonky widening that goes on. I
    went ahead and sanded that wonky wideness away.You can see
    in the picture the bank on the top and the wideness that comes
    with the kit part "AS IS," and the correction on the bank bellow.
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    The fins also have a strange angle to them on the top,
    so i marked a line and straightened them out making
    them much more 90 deg.
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    I also noticed on the studio model on the lower hull the
    little inlets looked open so I opened them up on my model
    kit as well. Not sure how deep it should run hollow, i may extend
    the channel back so you dont see all the way in later on.
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    I also started marking out some panel lines on the
    top hull they are scribed I just don't have a picture yet.....
    next update
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  14. 3d-builder

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    Here are the results of the scribing guys......
    i also decided to model this with the circuitry access panel
    removed, as seen on one of the filming minis.

    Roughed in with pencil.....
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    opposite side...
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    Thats where I am at pretty much brought this all up to
    date now.:thumbsup
     
  15. tek2graphics

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    Wow that's beautiful! If you don't mind me asking, how many hours do you think you've spent on this so far? I have an unbuilt kit and would LOVE to do what you've done so far!
     
  16. jedimaster

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    Nice work, I used some of Mikes 1/24 pilots for mine. With his permission of course.[​IMG]
     
  17. IEDBOUNTYHUNTER

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    Looking good. and im crazy. you got me beat.
     
  18. 3d-builder

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    Oh man sorry i never keep track of that stuff .:facepalm
    I would say i have less than 20 hrs so far......and it's
    getting there.:lol
     
  19. 3d-builder

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    Jedimaster that's going to look real cool with the big AT-AT!

    I did get a little done today before leaving for work,
    managed to get the circuitry access panel framed up
    on the underside of the top hull.
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  20. jedimaster

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    Sweet. I did this on my studio scale model. Unfortunately the inside surface wasn't flat so working out the dims for the styrene was a *****. Also I forgot to drill the holes in the girders before I mounted them. Also a *****. Watching with interest on the smaller model.
     
  21. 3d-builder

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    Oh man feel your pain on the girders!:facepalm
     
  22. jedimaster

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    This took me forever as the inside of the hull was a mixture of tissue and resin. I had to sand it as flat as it would go and place sheet styrene down and then work out the angles for the girders. Man... Never again. I don't think I'll be doing it on the smaller speeders but im looking forward to yours.

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    Just need to finish the smaller pipes and detailing, and a repaint. I'll get there one day.

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  23. clancampbell

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    Amazing....simply amazing!

    Rich
     
  24. 3d-builder

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    That looks excellent on my SS scratch build i just winged it
    in this area i used some piano wire and had fun!!
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  25. jedimaster

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    The golf cart material too wasn't it?
     
  26. youngwm

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    What a great job you have done so far and nice detail of progress.. When you say you want a clean cut not using the dremel do you acomplish this with an exacto knife? Wish I had your skills dude really great work!!
     
  27. 3d-builder

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    LOL yea it was a grille section where the air cleaner was.....it was real metal so i said ......"That will do just fine" LOL
     
  28. 3d-builder

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    Yea most of the time.....but if i have enough room to use the dremel
    i will. I just make sure to leave some of that reference line to hand
    sand with a file.
     
  29. cod289722

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    Thank you for all the tips, and outstanding work. I hope to be able to have an idea and mind and then make it come to life just like that!:thumbsup
     
  30. 3d-builder

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    Your most welcome.....:thumbsup

    I am calling the open circuitry access panel
    done! I had to re-do it once and not going
    there again! Hopefully it shines with some
    Tamiya primer I am picking up tomorrow.

    To get started making the grid i used some
    of that blank board you use to make a circuit
    on. I did have to open the holes up.......i think
    mine could have been a weee smaller? I taped
    the board to some styrene using it as a guide
    and re-drilled.
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    I just used a bunch of evergreen stuff for the two
    girders and detailing.
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    This pic is of some strip styrene around the edges,
    it's supposed to simulate the lip the panel would
    rest on if it were in place.I think the filming mini
    looks like this a bit.
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    And just to be safe some gaffer tape i got from the theater at work.....LOL
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    Last edited: Feb 27, 2012
  31. IEDBOUNTYHUNTER

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    MMMMMM, Gaffe tape, love it.
     
  32. Ray22

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    That grid area looks Kick * Mike!
     
  33. jedimaster

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    Nice work mate, now I'm tempted to do this on one of my 3..... Hmmmm.....
     
  34. 3d-builder

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    Thanks guys.......:thumbsup

    Jedimaster def do it it will break up
    the diorama in regards to the speeders!:thumbsup
     
  35. 3d-builder

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    Thanks guys much appreciated!:thumbsup

    Ok finally some primer! If your on the
    fence about buying the Fine molds kit,
    VS. the old one and you can scribe panel

    lines and you like the bigger size........LOL
    This should make you fall on the side of the
    fence for the old kit! LOL

    P.S. Nothing is glued down yet still have more
    detailing on the small and large boxes.

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  36. Scott Graham

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    Nice job!
     
  37. BTTFSpencer

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    Looks expensive! :D
     
  38. Ray22

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    Another Masterpiece from the Labs of 3-D Management, will look sweet next to the studio scale Mike.
     
  39. 3d-builder

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    Come on down i can get you into a used speeder for
    under 10k LOL:lol:thumbsup

    I did some detail work on the inner air
    brake housing, I was able to stuff about
    8 small parts in there and 2 hydraulic lines.
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    I also came up with a quick spring
    like thing that is missing on the
    lower air brakes, it's to big but
    it's getting it done! LOL
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  40. crackerjazz

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    Wow, that looks good! :)
     
  41. Ray22

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    Saaaaaweeeeet! Lol.
     
  42. Too Much Garlic

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    Some people are just too * talented... but man... so enjoyable to watch creativity and ingenuity unfold.
     
  43. tek2graphics

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    DITTO!!!

     
  44. franz bolo

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    Double Dog Ditto! :thumbsup

    FB
     
  45. daverep

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    ...wow...
     
  46. 3d-builder

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    Thanks guys got panel lines
    done on the bottom.

    If you sand the lines and let
    them fill in, especially on this
    kit with the color it was molded in,
    it will let you see your handy work.
    Taking a mulligan on this one the lines ]are not exactly
    the same on each side.....LOL But at least there straight
    so that's helping me out a bit.......hey it's the bottom
    any way right?!
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  47. BTTFSpencer

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    What a mess, oh, and awesome build! Love the details.
     
  48. Ray22

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    Rock on Brother Mike! Rock on!
     
  49. 3d-builder

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    Ok just about got the bottom knocked out ......
    have to add a few bits and those skids that
    go at the front on each side

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  50. tek2graphics

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    wow, that's coming out great! how much time do you think you've spent on it so far, if you don't mind me asking?
     

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