I keep hearing Furiosa is actually good, it's just no one cares. If it is any good I will use my future AI movie fixing machine to not only replace Tom with Mel, but I will replace what's her face with Charlize, Adjust the story and make it all one good, non cannon breaking story.
It's one of the better movies I've seen in a long while and I'm so glad they didn't just make a rehash of Fury Road, but did something new. And even better that it works as 2/3rds of a single movie with Fury Road as the last third.
The trailer I watched is trash. And sells a completely different kind of movie than it actually is - I have a feeling it is actively hurting the movie. It even gave me hesitation of wanting to watch it. But I trusted George Miller and he didn't disappoint.
It's one of the best movies I've seen where I have zero desire to see it again. Fury Road is a hope-filled romp compared to this one.
Miller's history as an ER doctor seeing the pointlessness of human suffering and death really comes through – the trailers touch on it a little, but they undersell how much it's the explicit theme of the move.
Characters survive chances for meaningful sacrifice only to be injured or die in brutal and meaningless ways later. Lest you think it's accidental, Hemsworth gets a speech near the end that underlines the point.
The movie does suffer from basically being Fury Road, part 1. It feels incomplete, as if it needs the other movie to provide some closure. Unfortunately it's just a prequel, so we don't get any of that.
I've been thinking about this post a lot since watching Furiosa a couple weeks back, and I think this is my main "complaint" with the movie. Furiosa as a character isn't as interesting, nor her supporting cast, to me because they already exist in this bleak world of brutality and beastial insanity; they are of the environment. Max only exists in it, barely surviving. He wants to remove himself from the people in it but always helps whenever the need arises, even if reluctantly. Max is interesting because of that, he has a moral compass for the audience to navigate this world with him. It's not that he is unwilling to do what's necessary but he is willing to give and do more than just solely surviving.
I keep hearing Furiosa is actually good, it's just no one cares. If it is any good I will use my future AI movie fixing machine to not only replace Tom with Mel, but I will replace what's her face with Charlize, Adjust the story and make it all one good, non cannon breaking story.
The original three movies had a loose continuity starting with the second film because Miller started seeing the character in a different light. They only have a semblance of continuity in that there's an implicit understanding that each film followed an undetermined amount of years after the other one, by Max aging and the use of cars and design of the environment.
As much as I'd love to see Mel in the leathers again, even if a deepfake into the entirety of Fury Road, I think combining the two together does a huge disservice to the movie and is really misguided. It'd be like if you cherry-picked out of your own bias scenes from The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly and Fistful of Dollars and frankensteined them together to make one long "non-cannon" breaking story, "fixing" the casting because 80% of the cast are shared between both movies (in all of them, actually), and used in similar roles. Furiosa's biggest flaw, for me, is it's an entertaining lore-dump for Fury Road but wholly unnecessary to both the Mad Max series, and as a movie entirely.
FR is fine as-is as another entry into Mad Max and, moreover, as an exclamation mark for contemporary action movies. The only thing missing are more movies of its caliber (and Mel).
The original three movies had a loose continuity starting with the second film because Miller started seeing the character in a different light. They only have a semblance of continuity in that there's an implicit understanding that each film followed an undetermined amount of years after the other one, by Max aging and the use of cars and design of the environment.
As much as I'd love to see Mel in the leathers again, even if a deepfake into the entirety of Fury Road, I think combining the two together does a huge disservice to the movie and is really misguided. It'd be like if you cherry-picked out of your own bias scenes from The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly and Fistful of Dollars and frankensteined them together to make one long "non-cannon" breaking story, "fixing" the casting because 80% of the cast are shared between both movies (in all of them, actually), and used in similar roles. Furiosa's biggest flaw, for me, is it's an entertaining lore-dump for Fury Road but wholly unnecessary to both the Mad Max series, and as a movie entirely.
FR is fine as-is as another entry into Mad Max and, moreover, as an exclamation mark for contemporary action movies. The only thing missing are more movies of its caliber (and Mel).
Tom Hardy is not Mel. But the Namibia/CGI world in the new movies is not Australia, either.
These new Mad Max entries are different things from the 1980s movies in general. The old movies still used paved roads. There was evidence of past civilization (other than 20th-century cars & trucks). The film look was not as high in contrast or extreme in colors. The action was edited with less cutting and less center-framing. Etc.
Deepfaking Mel's face onto Tom Hardy in 'Fury Road' is sorta like putting young Marlon Brando's face onto Robert DeNiro in 'Godfather 2'. Yeah, you could, but it's not going to improve the movie. It's just a parlor trick. If the replacement actor was already good in the role then it's probably better to leave it alone.
Filmed in Oz and, I believe, in the location used for the original films. More than just color corrected, I believe they digitally altered the entirety of the location shots to look like Namibia. I don't recall a single shot that was entirely all in-camera.
It doesn't look like Oz in 'Furiosa'. The real Namibia footage was heavily altered even in 'Fury Road.' It's a fabricated CGI-land in both movies.
In FR Max warned Furiosa & the crew: "After 160 days you'll find nothing out there but salt."
The earth's land masses aren't big enough for that. Even in wasteland conditions, motorcyclists would easily cover 1000 miles in a week or two. They would reach a coastline soon enough as long as they kept going in (any) one direction. 160 days? That's almost half a year. And what's with all the salt?
Miller's MM world (in FR & Furiosa) is an inverted version of 'Waterworld'. Instead of the earth's sea levels being implausibly raised, the water is all implausibly gone. My point is, the fictional location of everything in these new MM movies might be on drained ocean floors. That's a tidy explanation for why it's not anywhere familiar to us.
There's loads more of the Namibia location, some left untouched by or slightly "beefed up," in FR than Oz in 'Furiosa' if we're comparing. Every exterior in "Furiosa," even for locked-down still shots, was nearly covered with CG. Watching FR again recently, there's so much texture lent by the mostly real environment in that entry than in Furiosa, which feels very sterile and 'soft' comparing the two.
So I got around to seeing it and while the Mad Max films are usually fun with corny dialogue and lots of stunts, this beast just seems so unnecessary.
The MM universe suffers from it's own world limitation. Sand and stunts and that's about it. I'm glad I saw it, but wouldn't go out of my way to watch it again. I'm looking forward to MM Wasteland if they get the chance to make it, but fear it'll be the same rinse and repeat.
Still, they'll get my money...the crazy little monkeys....
Edit: Spoiler - One of the best parts has you know who in it....
Came across this and made me think of trying to get all these "historical" accounts on film to fit together....... "Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
― Neil Gaiman, Dream Country
My concern now is Miller is getting up there in age, I suspect he will want to make something other than another Max film next, this all puts Wasteland out many years from being made. I hope he has it written down to pass the torch if necessary.
Going with the Mel Movies are their own thing, and these new ones are a reboot, it would be nice to see a Max centered Mad Max movie to complete the "trilogy."
NO MORE FRIKKEN PREQUALS. Move on in life.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pick it up with the great Tom Hardy right after Furry Road.
Going with the Mel Movies are their own thing, and these new ones are a reboot, it would be nice to see a Max centered Mad Max movie to complete the "trilogy."
NO MORE FRIKKEN PREQUALS. Move on in life.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pick it up with the great Tom Hardy right after Furry Road.
The sad thing is that Miller apparently had the prequels for Furiosa and Max, yet they chose to go with Furiosa’s prequel first. Now we may never get the Max prequel.
The sad thing is that Miller apparently had the prequels for Furiosa and Max, yet they chose to go with Furiosa’s prequel first. Now we may never get the Max prequel.
Well, I just realized we can't go with the reboot idea. At least I can't in my head as that darn comic Miller released and is official cannon says he went from Thunderdome to events just before Furiosa.
So in addition to the NO MORE PREQUALS rule I have established, and thus must be followed, we know what happens. If you must do this, make it a sequel. Lets see what's next.
Prequals suck. Always have as you know what happens to the characters. IMHO that is second only to God,...............and my wife
Well, I just realized we can't go with the reboot idea. At least I can't in my head as that darn comic Miller released and is official cannon says he went from Thunderdome to events just before Furiosa.
Basically, the film with Max would have detailed the events a year prior to Fury Road, and considering what I’ve heard about the comic and how there is overlap with the Mad Max video game, it might have covered Max rebuilding the Interceptor and a woman named Hope and her daughter Glory.
