Luke is a tool in ROTJ and Chewbacca is buck naked. SW Overthunk.

[WarPig]

Obi Wan has the rapid aging disease from the Star Trek episode "The Deadly Years."
He goes from padawan to Master in the prequels and was "too old to begin the training. So, how old was he? 20 years later, he can't remember how to pronounce his "old" name ("...follow old Obi Wann on some idealistic crusade, like your Father did..."
And he's suddenly "too old" to do things and he looks like some old crazy wizard.
He can't remember who Anakin was following off of Tatooine either, apparently, nor the purpose. I guess Jedi training might be some idealistic crusade...

And Yoda has it as well. In 20 years, he went from looking like Mark Hamill does now (Episode III) to an old decrepit creature - yet he's supposed to have lived for 900 years! Perhaps Vader found the "Picture of Dorian Gray" on Dagobah...

 

[terryr]

None of the lightsabers light up the peoples faces, or reflect in their eyes. Except yodas in Ep 3.
And with a hugely bright light in your face how do you fight anyway? You basically have the Sun on a stick. Jedis would be blind after a few years of that.

 

[Sym-Cha]

Quote ESB original sceenplay and movie :

DECK OFFICER : Your Tauntaun'll freeze before you reach the first marker.
HAN : Then I'll see you in hell!

Didn't these stories take place a long time ago in a galaxy far,far away ... :confused

This has always been an enigma and anomaly . . . from my point of view.

-Chaim

 

[PHArchivist]

Did you ever notice that the Death Star has the ability to reverse its poles?

 

[gunnerk19]

The whole stormtrooper, sandtrooper, tie pilot 24/7 wearing the helmet thing, especially in climate controlled /friendly atmospheres...

Yeah, big whoop, your HSIC (head Sith in charge) wears his helmut und mask alla time, but that's because he would die without it!

These young TK's and TI's are walking around the Death Star, which apparently provides fresh air for the Imperial Officer Cadre and human prisoners but not for enlisted folk; and the poor bastards assigned to Tatooine and Mos Eisley, mean temperature 116 degrees, and the MEPD Troopers are sweating their grey matter out thru their ears because they gotta wear them danged buckets...

 

[Satxer]

Quote ESB original sceenplay and movie :

DECK OFFICER : Your Tauntaun'll freeze before you reach the first marker.
HAN : Then I'll see you in hell!

Didn't these stories take place a long time ago in a galaxy far,far away ... :confused

-Chaim

Are you implying that Hell didn't exist a long time ago?

 

[thegreatgalling]

As for TESB, the only problem I have is Leia's laser brain line. Is she saying Han's brain is coherent and precisely focused? What kind of insult is that?

Ha. While not the best comeback in the world, I took it to mean that he was very "narrow" minded: namely thinking about (and thinking highly of) himself. A laser IS very focused, thus narrow, and one-tracked.

 

[Sym-Cha]

Are you implying that Hell didn't exist a long time ago?

I'm implying that 'Hell' is a concept of the Christian Believe System here on Earth! So was Han born and raised on Earth then? Or has he been abducted from here by aliens? Or warped back in space/time continuum by Q? I think it was a slip of the tongue by Harrison and when the annotated screen-plays were published they added it to the script or was it an intended 'mistake' (anomaly) by George in the
first place?

-Chaim

 

[DS Operative]

Did you ever notice that the Death Star has the ability to reverse its poles?

No... please explain!

 

[thegreatgalling]

Quote ESB original sceenplay and movie :

DECK OFFICER : Your Tauntaun'll freeze before you reach the first marker.
HAN : Then I'll see you in hell!

Didn't these stories take place a long time ago in a galaxy far,far away ... :confused

This has always been an enigma and anomaly . . . from my point of view.

-Chaim

I have thought this too at times, but here's the thing:

THEY'RE SPEAKING ENGLISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Certainly that is more crazy and harder to digest than jut the word (or idea) of hell.

This is a concept for a new thread, but is Luke even "human"? What I mean is I always kind of thought the characters weren't REALLY speaking English, but an alien language, and as viewers, we were only hearing english. To take it further, perhaps Luke REALLY looked more like a skinny Jabba, or was an alien, but APPEARED human to us, the viewers.

Evidence for above is in the written language of SW. We never see English, only alien symbols.

So since their language is translated, it makes sense that their words would too, like hell, lest it be:

"See you in RACKSHEsSsSsHHH!!!"

 

[thegreatgalling]

I'm implying that 'Hell' is a concept of the Christian Believe System here on Earth! So was Han born and raised on Earth then?

-Chaim

The concept of an afterlife is as old as time. Even certain tribes of Neanderthals buried their dead. The Ancient Egyptians, Sumarians, Aztecs, Greeks and Romans, all had ideas for an afterlife. So among thinking creatures, hell is an understandable belief. I think it's the word that really trips us up, but again their speaking English.

 

[Sym-Cha]

Good point,

perhaps a new thread
would be necessary
to evaluate this further.
ha,ha,ha!

-Chaim

 

[Treadwell]

Luke's fall was cushioned by powerful air currents inside the tibanna gas processor.

 

[Satxer]

The concept of an afterlife is as old as time. Even certain tribes of Neanderthals buried their dead. The Ancient Egyptians, Sumarians, Aztecs, Greeks and Romans, all had ideas for an afterlife. So among thinking creatures, hell is an understandable belief. I think it's the word that really trips us up, but again their speaking English.

Couldn't of said it better myself.

Concepts from any movie/show that wasn't revolving around the actual concept of Earth could have used the terminolgy. Look at Battlestar Galactica, that all takes place thousands of years before any real known human civilization of Earth. They talk about gods, and heavens and I am pretty sure even a hell like place. What's to say that it wasn't the same for Star Wars?

 

[terryr]

...Even certain tribes of Neanderthals buried their dead. ..

Yeah they buried their dead with flowers. But why? It may have been to keep meat eating animals away. I mean, you just can't leave them lying around. They stink.
Even modern cultures have a rule about getting rid of the dead as fast as possible.

Viking culture also had a Hel but it was a woman who was beautiful in the face and progressively rotten as you went down. She wore a cloak to hide it and went around seducing men to their doom.

 

[Treadwell]

Since "Basic" has been "translated into English" for our viewing convenience, it follows that some unpleasant afterlife concept (whether believed or considered just a story) in the SW universe has been translated to "Hell", also for our convenience.

Much simpler than establishing whatever that parallel concept is beforehand, just for the sake of using the term in a throwaway line.

Thus the English "Tractor Beam" graphics in the original version don't really bother me, since it is more important to make sure the audience understands what Ben is doing than to be linguistically correct to the universe.

 

[thegreatgalling]

Thanks for everyone's input, this has been
a great thread to read.

 

[thegreatgalling]

Luke's fall was cushioned by powerful air currents inside the tibanna gas processor.

That sounds like a fancy way of saying Sith farts.

 

[Wes R]

Immature, slightly twattish dork is a necessary side of the character and is absolutely right for the story.

I think he got that from reading Joseph campbell's books because it always seems in myth and legend the hero is a real ****** before he starts learning his lessons. Then again most teenagers are that way.

 

[Colin Droidmilk]

Yeah, probably. I love the whiny toshi station power converters Luke. I think Hamill does it great. It's more interesting to me than the Jedi Luke. As soon as he gets out of the farm kimono outfit... well, it just ain't Luke any more, y'dig?