Lord of the Rings Triple Review (UC Shards, MC Glamdring, Weta One Ring)

Jm419

Sr Member
Here's a review of three LotR props I picked up during the last few months. What with the semester ending about a week ago and the holidays occurring immediately after, I've not had much time to write up reviews of these props as they came in. I've had these for a while, now, but now that they're all here (the Ring didn't arrive until the 12th) and I have some quiet time this evening, I figured I would write these up together.

A friend of mine on another forum and I convinced each other that, due to the Hobbit's release this December, prices on LotR stuff were likely to soar, so we made our move to collect whatever we wanted before the premiere sent costs through the ceiling. I picked up the Shards first, then he got an Anduril and a MC Glamdring. At this point, I owned an Anduril, Narsil, Shards of Narsil, and a standard UC Sting - so my collection felt a bit off balance.


When my cohort got a MC Glamdring, I congratulated him, but I figured it was a bit out of my reach. I was looking on ebay one day when I happened to run across another MC Glamdring for less than $100. Knowing the price wouldn't stay there, I decided to watch it, and ended up bagging the sword for about $287, which was a pretty decent price considering the original retail was like $1200.

Here it is, Museum Collection Glamdring #696/1000. Pardon the photos; my golden retriever puppy got to the camera and damaged it, so I think the light sensor is a little out of whack.

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The hilt is silver plated, and weathered to match the movie prop. It's really well detailed, and the work feels solid, clean, and elegant - like everything else I've owned from UC, this is really top of the line. There are real sapphires on the hilt, and the silver shines nicely. (I do have a question - does the carbon steel blade need any special care, or is gun oil once a month all it needs?)

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Apparently there's a funny story behind these runes. They're actually reversed on the sword - while still "legible", they are out of order on the blade when compared to Tolkien's writings.

For instance, let's take the sentences: My name is James. I am twenty-one.

These two sentences are simply swapped on the hilt. While the original meaning of the sentence is as shown above, they would read, on the hilt,

I am twenty-one. My name is James.

I guess this isn't really an error, or at least, not one that injures screen-accuracy. The runes were apparently etched both ways on the original Hero Props, and Kit Rae can confirm this - the prop they received to model at United Cutlery had the runes as shown on their Museum Collection Sword, in the "reversed" format. However, a different Hero prop had the runes written correctly, so both versions are technically screen accurate.

Since I don't read Cirth, I have no problems with this. I think it's a bit of an amusing anecdote, but that's just me.

Note the fine grain of the metal in the first photo above. This really illustrates the quality of the sword; the finish is like this across the hilt, and it really looks like a 4,000 year old sword.

Anyway, continuing on...

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These are some shots of the pommel. I always liked the geometry of the LotR sword pommels - all the sweeping curves, especially on Narsil - and Glamdring is no exception. The geometry is complex but aesthetically pleasing.

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Here's the proof. The swords recently discovered by Redford films are in fact part of the original run of 1,000. They apparently had a problem - UC went bankrupt halfway through the run - so roughly a third to half of the swords were lost. My friend and I were initially skeptical that these were genuine, but they are, in fact, part of the original run. If you're still looking for a MC sword, pick one up - Redford Films has at least a few left, still in original UC packing.

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This photo and the trademark photo show the edge of this sword. The standard line of United Cutlery stuff has a false edge, with some exceptions, but Anduril and Narsil are both false-edged. Not so on this blade. This is a real sharp blade, and the tip is very, very keen - just like it should be.

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This is a real, wet-wrapped leather grip, and it feels like it. This is such a small detail, but it makes the sword feel like it should - real leather on the grip of a blade with real silver and real sapphire accents with a sharp blade and a full tang - this is truly one of the Holy Grails of LotR sword collecting. Aside from the MSSC, this is the best Glamdring available - if you're on the fence, jump on it. It's definitely worth the cash. :lol

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These darn things are hard to photograph - they're gigantic!

Glamdring, however, was not the sword I always wanted. The other, way-out-of-my-wallet's-reach sword was the original run of 5000 Shards of Narsil. Unlike the Glamdring run, the Shards were completed and sent out, but each one is unique. They're hand weathered and distressed, and they sure look the part of the real prop. Take a look.

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The edges of each Shard are cracked and distressed, unlike my original dremelled edges on my Pakistani knockoff. Well, those weren't perfectly smooth, but these breaks actually look like breaks - it looks like the sword actually shattered along these lines.

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As you can see, the hilt shard is removable:

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Here's a better look at the hilt shard. Pardon the lighting here - you can tell why I think the light correction sensor is going.

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The weathering is very precisely done on this. Small rust spots have formed on the blade during its 3,000 year stay in Rivendell, and they're all over. The leather is even "dirty." All in all, it's very well done, and I'm remarkably pleased to have this in my collection. Now I own all three stages of Narsil: pre-break, broken, and post-break, or Anduril.

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Here's the trademark on the blade. UC 1296 indeed. Bizarrely, this is on the "hero" side of the prop; this is the upwards facing face of the blade in the film, which means you can't have a screen accurate display. Ah well. I'll just leave it on the plaque - that looks pretty good to me.

Strangely, though, this does not have a steel blade, but rather cast aluminum. It makes sense, I guess, but it shines like aluminum, not steel, and the anti-corrosion coating is wearing off in places.

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This is something else that I thought was awesome. I bought this from another RPF member, who can identify himself if he chooses, and he took very good care of this. The wooden plaque is in very good shape, as is the sword itself, but the really cool thing is the number. I know it's a high number, but I'm not overly concerned with that - the cool thing is that it's "round."

Ok - you'll probably think this is weird, but let me explain. I'm an engineering student, and we like round numbers - ending in 5, or 0, and numbers that break down from 1000 easily are even better (for metric conversions). 10, 25, 50, 75 - we like those numbers, and even better are obvious fractional equivalents, like 125, 250, 500, 750, etc. Imagine my surprise when this came out to be an awesome number - 4250. If I'd have gotten to pick a number, this would have been like number six or seven on my list, out of the original 5000. 1, 1000, 5000, 2500, 4750, 4500, 4250. So, yeah, seven. Isn't that neat? Out of all the numbers, it's a cool one to get. That just puts a smile on my face.

Now that you think I'm a weirdo, I'd better entice you to stick around for the third part of the review:

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I picked up a nice One Ring replica from Weta. This is the new, Hobbit release, without the black-speech runes, which I preferred to the LotR version - the runes show on screen for like 2% of the Ring's entire screentime, so I wanted the "more" screen accurate piece - without the runes.

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The box it came in is quite nice; it "smells good," because it's still outgassing from the laser etching process for the title on the top of the box. It's real, NZ wood, and it's kinda neat to think that I have wood that came from Middle Earth.

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It's a Ring. How many ways can I photograph it? :lol I would like to point out that I did rotate the Ring, so these are two different photographs. You can tell because it shifted slightly. :lol

Honestly, while it's an obvious copy from the film, photographing this thing on a "blond" wood is the only way to go - otherwise, the color gets washed out. I've now owned like five One Rings, and this is a hard one to get right; the dimensions are off in one way or another in my cheap amazon "wedding bands", or the curve isn't right on the edge, or it's too thin, or something. This one, though, looks every bit the One - and it's heavy, too. Tungsten carbide has a molecular weight of 15.30 g/cc, compared to gold's 19.30 g/cc, so the Ring weighs about the same as if it were solid gold. It has a nice heft to it, and it's really nicely done. I wore it to the premiere of the Hobbit and got all sorts of compliments on it.

Even if it did take nine freakin weeks to arrive. :behave

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I know this is a bit of a sore topic with folks, but I figured I'd do a full review. The info on the inside is, in fact, laser etched. It's fairly upsetting, yes, that they'd do this - it goes roughly halfway around the inside, too, so it's hard to display in a three-sided case. It's not a huge deal, but it is fairly irritating that the mark is engraved and that it covers so much of the space. I'd have been much more amenable to it were it only over, say, a fifth of the inner diameter, but half is just too much. It also can't be removed subtractively, which means a trip to the jeweler's is in order to hide the maker's mark. I'll probably just live with it, but I'd prefer it was more tastefully done.

The Ring is just supposed to be flawless and unmarked, so the mark's presence is a little out of line. I understand why it's there, but I wish it wasn't.

Still, if you turn the Ring around, it looks good from one side:

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Even if you can see the "Wet" at right at the start of the maker's mark. Ah well; I enjoy it for what it is.

So that's it for me - these are the jewels of my Lord of the Rings collection. I spent more than I probably should have on LotR stuff in the past few months, but hey, I've got what I wanted, and before the prices skyrocketed due to the Hobbit's popularity. They're magical props - they really take you into the world they belong to. In terms of licensed props, UC does it best. Unless you go straight to the maker, of course.
 
Very nice pieces that you have here! I enjoyed reading your reviews as well. I didn't know that about the runes on Glamdring.
 
I read this in its entirety last night before falling asleep, but meant to comment today. First off, excellent reviews! Anduril is my "Grail" sword, so I can appreciate your attention to these pieces. Now all you need is a stone statue to properly display your Narsil :)
 
Lovely detailed review! These all look wonderful. I'm especially envious of that ring. :D Might have to pick one up soon, myself.

I'm a big picky sword collector and only buy functional weapons, but the UC wallhangers have always been very attractive to me. The only licensed replicas I'd normally care to actually own would be the Master Swordsmith Collection versions, but this "Museum Collection" version of Glamdring looks like an interesting middle ground. It's certainly leagues more attractive than the standard stainless replicas.

The only thing that gives me pause is that there is no info about the hilt construction, heat-treatment process, or any real specification of steel type beyond the fact that it's a high-carbon tool steel. The extended pommel shows no signs of peening through the end, which might indicate a simple screw-on construction onto the narrowed and tapped tang end. "Full-tang" is often tossed about with replica swords without taking into account the actual pommel interface with said full tang, which can negate the sword's structural integrity when it comes withstanding the leverage and stresses involved in test-cutting or forms. I don't feel comfortable owning a blade I can't cut with, and even with all the fabulous details like the sapphires, leather, and silver this won't fall into the functional blade category without my finding out some more info about the integrity of the blade.

But damn if it ain't gorgeous all the same! :lol Hmmm. Redford still has some for $400, and it's very tempting.

Anyway, as I said, great and thorough review of these pieces! They are all gorgeous. Do you by any chance know the accurate weight and center of gravity of the sharp and shiny foe-hammer?
I understand well the long desire for that one specific sword. It took me over ten years to get my own ideal Lord of the Rings blade. :) Glad you finally got your shards.
 
Great reviews. That's a damn good price for the Museum Collection Glamdring, and I was debating whether to pick it up... But then I saw it doesnt come with the wood/glass display case. :cry:cry:cry
 
Great timing on the review of the One Ring. I've been researching the exact one that you have for the past week or so trying to make a decision on whether or not to buy one. Based on your pictures and descriptions, I think that I'll go ahead and get one. Thanks for the help! :thumbsup
 
beautiful, im jealous! very good review.

Thanks much. :) They're wonderful props.


Very nice pieces that you have here! I enjoyed reading your reviews as well. I didn't know that about the runes on Glamdring.

It's kinda funny, huh? Kit might chime in; on another forum he explained why the runes are "reversed", and I think I got the story right. Just kind of a funny anecdote about the sword itself. Gives it some more character.


I read this in its entirety last night before falling asleep, but meant to comment today. First off, excellent reviews! Anduril is my "Grail" sword, so I can appreciate your attention to these pieces. Now all you need is a stone statue to properly display your Narsil :)

No, no, I don't need to spend any money. I just bought a MC Sting, too, so I'm officially out of hobby money for a while. :lol

Thanks for the comments! I have a UC Anduril, and it's a beautiful piece. They're remarkably magical, really. You really feel like somehow, these are the real swords of Middle Earth.


Lovely detailed review! These all look wonderful. I'm especially envious of that ring. :D Might have to pick one up soon, myself.

I'm a big picky sword collector and only buy functional weapons, but the UC wallhangers have always been very attractive to me. The only licensed replicas I'd normally care to actually own would be the Master Swordsmith Collection versions, but this "Museum Collection" version of Glamdring looks like an interesting middle ground. It's certainly leagues more attractive than the standard stainless replicas.

The only thing that gives me pause is that there is no info about the hilt construction, heat-treatment process, or any real specification of steel type beyond the fact that it's a high-carbon tool steel. The extended pommel shows no signs of peening through the end, which might indicate a simple screw-on construction onto the narrowed and tapped tang end. "Full-tang" is often tossed about with replica swords without taking into account the actual pommel interface with said full tang, which can negate the sword's structural integrity when it comes withstanding the leverage and stresses involved in test-cutting or forms. I don't feel comfortable owning a blade I can't cut with, and even with all the fabulous details like the sapphires, leather, and silver this won't fall into the functional blade category without my finding out some more info about the integrity of the blade.

But damn if it ain't gorgeous all the same! :lol Hmmm. Redford still has some for $400, and it's very tempting.

Anyway, as I said, great and thorough review of these pieces! They are all gorgeous. Do you by any chance know the accurate weight and center of gravity of the sharp and shiny foe-hammer?
I understand well the long desire for that one specific sword. It took me over ten years to get my own ideal Lord of the Rings blade. :) Glad you finally got your shards.

That's a beautiful Ranger's sword; I like it at least as much as the film version.

I'd be inclined to agree with you that this sword is likely less than functional. It's quite heavy, not very well balanced, and the steel is not marked in any way. "High Carbon steel" is not enough to go on to know if it's a high quality steel, you're right. Full tang means it threads into the pommel in this case, which of course, doesn't mean much at all. Still, it's a miraculously beautiful sword, and I'm quite pleased with it.

Thanks for your comments and compliments! :)


Great reviews. That's a damn good price for the Museum Collection Glamdring, and I was debating whether to pick it up... But then I saw it doesnt come with the wood/glass display case. :cry:cry:cry

That's true, unfortunately, about the case, but I'm not too concerned. I'll pick up a plaque on Ebay for it and hang it up like the rest. I'm pretty pleased with the price, yeah. Came out all right, eh?


Great timing on the review of the One Ring. I've been researching the exact one that you have for the past week or so trying to make a decision on whether or not to buy one. Based on your pictures and descriptions, I think that I'll go ahead and get one. Thanks for the help! :thumbsup

Awesome. That's exactly why I post these. Definitely go for the Ring; it's a phenomenal replica, if you don't mind the trademark too much.
 
That's a beautiful Ranger's sword; I like it at least as much as the film version.
Thanks very much! I'm smitten with it.
I'd be inclined to agree with you that this sword is likely less than functional. It's quite heavy, not very well balanced, and the steel is not marked in any way. "High Carbon steel" is not enough to go on to know if it's a high quality steel, you're right. Full tang means it threads into the pommel in this case, which of course, doesn't mean much at all. Still, it's a miraculously beautiful sword, and I'm quite pleased with it.

Thanks for your comments and compliments! :)
You're welcome! I did some digging and found an under the hood review of Museum Collection Glamdring #471. The steel type is still unclear, but it does have a proper heat treatment, which bodes well. It's probably something like 1060. The take-down revealed a hollow grip section and a short screw-on interface at the base of the pommel. The tang is at least nicely shaped, but it doesn't reach far enough into the pommel for the overall assembly to rely on it during hard use or heavy target cutting. Still, it's a much better hilt construction than most wall-hangers. It won't fail from swinging the sword around or trying out your best wizard poses. If you put a keen edge on it you could probably take on suspended sheets of newspaper or pool noodles. The lack of distal taper and overall weight would probably make it a little tough to get up to speed but when it's all said and done, even though I wouldn't go so far as the ad copy in calling this a fully functional reproduction, it's certainly more 'functional' than most replica swords out there, not to mention WAY more attractive. For the price you paid you got a very impressive treasure. :) Cheers.
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I'm still on the fence about that damn ring...its that tm that's conflicting me!

And great review...Made me me dig out my shards and other swords to look over and appreciate
 
I have both the swords and admit to being somewhat disappointed with the Shards. The thing does not hang right - The pommel sits at an angle on the plaque, so that if viewed from the side just looks...bad. Perhaps drilling a hole into the plaque could help, but I'm not sure I want to try.
Oh - and where did you get the idea that the shards were aluminum? Never noticed that...
 
Thanks for the great reviews Jm419! It made me grab a MC Glamdring from Redford Films while they still had their 15% off special. I also ordered a white scabbard for it and I'm considering a blue one as well. Perhaps I could display the sword with the scabbards crossed behind it....hmmmm
 
Thanks very much! I'm smitten with it.

You're welcome! I did some digging and found an under the hood review of Museum Collection Glamdring #471. The steel type is still unclear, but it does have a proper heat treatment, which bodes well. It's probably something like 1060. The take-down revealed a hollow grip section and a short screw-on interface at the base of the pommel. The tang is at least nicely shaped, but it doesn't reach far enough into the pommel for the overall assembly to rely on it during hard use or heavy target cutting. Still, it's a much better hilt construction than most wall-hangers. It won't fail from swinging the sword around or trying out your best wizard poses. If you put a keen edge on it you could probably take on suspended sheets of newspaper or pool noodles. The lack of distal taper and overall weight would probably make it a little tough to get up to speed but when it's all said and done, even though I wouldn't go so far as the ad copy in calling this a fully functional reproduction, it's certainly more 'functional' than most replica swords out there, not to mention WAY more attractive. For the price you paid you got a very impressive treasure. :) Cheers.

Wow, what a spectacular analysis. This is amazing; I should print this out and frame it next to my sword on the wall. The distal taper is probably what makes it hardest to wield, but it's a wonderful sword nonetheless.

Thanks for the link! I'll go have a nice read. :)


I'm still on the fence about that damn ring...its that tm that's conflicting me!

And great review...Made me me dig out my shards and other swords to look over and appreciate

Honestly, while the TM is a bit upsetting, this is as close as we'll ever get to a perfect replica of the One Ring in the price range. It's heavy, well made, and if you only see it from one side, you can forget the TM's even there. And hey, if you hate it, sell it - it's not like people won't want to buy it.

The shards are an awesome set, yeah. I'm glad I picked them up. Thanks for the comments!


I have both the swords and admit to being somewhat disappointed with the Shards. The thing does not hang right - The pommel sits at an angle on the plaque, so that if viewed from the side just looks...bad. Perhaps drilling a hole into the plaque could help, but I'm not sure I want to try.
Oh - and where did you get the idea that the shards were aluminum? Never noticed that...

The Shards are kinda funny, yeah. The hilt can sit at an angle unless it's adjusted right; I had to mess with mine to get it to sit properly. Mine does have a hole in the plaque for the hilt point to sit in; doesn't yours?

I read that they were coated aluminum on the Ultimate Collectors Forums, at Ultimate Collectors' Forums - Powered by vBulletin . They're a great resource; lots of reviews of the UC swords in particular with some nice discussion and photos.


Thanks for the great reviews Jm419! It made me grab a MC Glamdring from Redford Films while they still had their 15% off special. I also ordered a white scabbard for it and I'm considering a blue one as well. Perhaps I could display the sword with the scabbards crossed behind it....hmmmm

LOL, you're like the fourth person who told me that. I picked up a Museum Collection Sting, too, because of the sale... I did it to myself with this thread. :lol

Thanks for the compliments!
 
Wow, what a spectacular analysis. This is amazing; I should print this out and frame it next to my sword on the wall.
Hahaha, thank you! :$:)

The distal taper is probably what makes it hardest to wield, but it's a wonderful sword nonetheless.

Thanks for the link! I'll go have a nice read. :)
You're welcome! You'll notice that I actually commented within that thread and had forgotten about it until now. :facepalm:lol

And you're absolutely right that it's a wonderful piece all the same. Cheers.
 
Nice reviews!

I own #0605 and it's a beautiful sword. I was disappointed about the tang construction, but hearing the standard UC release could take a fair beating, I am confident this will stand up for display and showing people the sword!
 
Nice reviews!

I own #0605 and it's a beautiful sword. I was disappointed about the tang construction, but hearing the standard UC release could take a fair beating, I am confident this will stand up for display and showing people the sword!

To be fair, so long as you do non-contact swinging, the mc glamdring should hold up fine. If you decide to do sme cutting however, then all bets are off.
 
Ah fantastic especially about the ring. There are SO MANY out there I have never bought one in case a better (and affordable) variation comes out. I have the Weta Bag End on its way and might choose the Ring as my next Weta purchase! Thanks for these reviews.
 
I'm still on the fence about the Weta One Ring as well. Not sure if this one is better or the replica at F-Boutique is better.
 
To be fair, so long as you do non-contact swinging, the mc glamdring should hold up fine. If you decide to do sme cutting however, then all bets are off.
Exactly right. By the way, do you have any info about the hilt construction of your mind-numbingly-gorgeous master swordsmith's collection Glamdring? I trust Peter absolutely to create the weapons to be as functional as they were on set, but I'm always curious as to how this is achieved with extended scent-stopper pommels. (especially after finding out that the MSC Sting simply has its pommel 'cap' epoxied on. :confused)
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On shorter scent stopper pommels and historical examples, the pommel is slotted fully through and keyed to the shape of the narrowing tang, before the tang is peened over at the termination to rivet the assembly together. However, this becomes trickier to do with highly extended pommel forms like that found on Glamdring, unless the hilt components are made through investment casting.
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The other option for extended pommels with radial symmetry is to do a screw-on construction, but done the RIGHT way. Screw-pommels need not be inherently weak, as long as the base of the pommel isn't acting as a fulcrum on the last few threaded centimeters. My friend Brendan Olszowy is a custom sword maker who employs this method for certain extended pommel forms.
In some cases I will use a screw on pommel rather than a keyed and peened pommel.
I do my screw on pommels so that the base 7/8" insertion of the pommel is sitting on 10mm x 6.5mm flatbar (3/8" x 1/4") - the threaded part of it is only deep in the pommel.
I forge the end of my tang into 3/8" rod, thread the end of it.
The pommel has a 7.5mm pilot hole drilled about 5cm deep. Then the outer 22mm is drilled out to 10mm. The deeper part is tapped out to the 3/8" UNC thread.
I Fit the tang to the pommel, and then grind the flats down so it can fit through a guard and grip without a big ugly pilot hole.
This technique gives a plenty strong base (fulcrum) for the pommel to sit on. Try bending some 3/8" bar with 2" of leverage. I managed to put a set in some such bar by hanging a 5kg weight plate off each side and pounding it down on a central fulcrum - no sword is ever going to transmit that much shock to a pommel base. Much stronger than the threaded rods the cheap makers are doing.

A pic here to show how the tang is positioned inside the pommel.
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