Looking for a Indy Fedora.
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Re: Looking for a cheap but believable Indy Fedora.
Christy's 'Adventurer' is the cheapest movie-accurate Indy hat on the market. I think they are U.S.$98 at www.hornethats.com in thier fedora section.
The Akubra FedIV is around $50 more I think, but you are paying for a more durable quality felt.
Buying an Indy hat is all about preference of use. Is this for a simple costuming event, or a continuing interest in THE hat worn by Indy? If you're truly serious about Indy's hat, it would serve you well to take some time to save up for something higher quality.
Christy's 'Adventurer' is the cheapest movie-accurate Indy hat on the market. I think they are U.S.$98 at www.hornethats.com in thier fedora section.
The Akubra FedIV is around $50 more I think, but you are paying for a more durable quality felt.
Buying an Indy hat is all about preference of use. Is this for a simple costuming event, or a continuing interest in THE hat worn by Indy? If you're truly serious about Indy's hat, it would serve you well to take some time to save up for something higher quality.
CB2001
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Re: Looking for a cheap but believable Indy Fedora.
So... You're a... Top man, eh? J/k
So... You're a... Top man, eh? J/k
JoMamma_Smurf
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Re: Looking for a cheap but believable Indy Fedora.
You noobs need to hang around COW a lot more:lol
You noobs need to hang around COW a lot more:lol
CB2001
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Re: Looking for a cheap but believable Indy Fedora.
That's funny. I bought my hat from the Cracker Barrel. And yet, when I displayed the picture of it here, it got negative reviews because it was an official Indy hat. Weird.
That's funny. I bought my hat from the Cracker Barrel. And yet, when I displayed the picture of it here, it got negative reviews because it was an official Indy hat. Weird.
Trotsky
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Re: Looking for a cheap but believable Indy Fedora.
If you want screen accurate, the offical hat really does not do it. At all. It may be a nice hat for you, and that's great!
The relationship between the "official" hat and a screen accurate hat is, in my mind, night and day.
I have two Feds, a III and a IV and while they are not Adventurebilt they are pretty damn close to my vintage hats and, when bashed correctly, the movie hat.
The offcial hats lack, most glaringly, a tall, straight crown that can be bashed with a little bit of steam. The offical hats are short and tapered which are fine for hats but look off when compared to the screen.
The pinch is ALWAYS wrong on the dorfmans and the official hats. Not "pinched" enough in the front, just two indentations on either side. Indy should have an actual, honest to gods pinch.
I suppose what I am saying is that if you want a hat to wear, the official or dorfman are fine but if you want a SA hat, you will end up spending more when you buy an official then down the road sell it cheap and buy a better yet still inexpensive Akubra or Todd's. Many people on COW (Club Obi Wan) and the Fedora Lounge have did the same thing. I read and researched and got the Akubra, which I could not be happier with!
If you want screen accurate, the offical hat really does not do it. At all. It may be a nice hat for you, and that's great!
The relationship between the "official" hat and a screen accurate hat is, in my mind, night and day.
I have two Feds, a III and a IV and while they are not Adventurebilt they are pretty damn close to my vintage hats and, when bashed correctly, the movie hat.
The offcial hats lack, most glaringly, a tall, straight crown that can be bashed with a little bit of steam. The offical hats are short and tapered which are fine for hats but look off when compared to the screen.
The pinch is ALWAYS wrong on the dorfmans and the official hats. Not "pinched" enough in the front, just two indentations on either side. Indy should have an actual, honest to gods pinch.
I suppose what I am saying is that if you want a hat to wear, the official or dorfman are fine but if you want a SA hat, you will end up spending more when you buy an official then down the road sell it cheap and buy a better yet still inexpensive Akubra or Todd's. Many people on COW (Club Obi Wan) and the Fedora Lounge have did the same thing. I read and researched and got the Akubra, which I could not be happier with!
aceofknaves88
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Re: Looking for a cheap but believable Indy Fedora.
I think it depends on which movie hat we're talking about, since the original "Raiders" hat looks different from the "Temple" hat, which looks different from the "Last Crusade" hat. The official hat most definitely does not resemble the "Raiders" hat, but looks closer to the "Temple" hat, which I know from reading isn't a very popular hat.
Here's the Cracker Barrel hat next to the "Temple" hat:
If you read the description of the "Temple" hat on IndyGear.com, it matches the official hat almost exactly: "The Temple of Doom fedora they ended up with had a slightly lower crown. Where the Raiders fedora was made with a stove-pipe shaped crown, the Temple had a good amount of taper to it which is immediately noticeable. This fedora also omitted the high tight pinch and instead sported a high, almost un-bashed light pinch."
I think most people forget this stuff because everyone (including myself) thinks immediately of the hat worn in "Raiders" when they think of Indiana Jones.
I think it depends on which movie hat we're talking about, since the original "Raiders" hat looks different from the "Temple" hat, which looks different from the "Last Crusade" hat. The official hat most definitely does not resemble the "Raiders" hat, but looks closer to the "Temple" hat, which I know from reading isn't a very popular hat.
Here's the Cracker Barrel hat next to the "Temple" hat:
If you read the description of the "Temple" hat on IndyGear.com, it matches the official hat almost exactly: "The Temple of Doom fedora they ended up with had a slightly lower crown. Where the Raiders fedora was made with a stove-pipe shaped crown, the Temple had a good amount of taper to it which is immediately noticeable. This fedora also omitted the high tight pinch and instead sported a high, almost un-bashed light pinch."
I think most people forget this stuff because everyone (including myself) thinks immediately of the hat worn in "Raiders" when they think of Indiana Jones.
CB2001
Master Member
Re: Looking for a cheap but believable Indy Fedora.
Wicked. So, the Cracker Barrel hat is more of a replica of the "Temple of Doom" hat than a "Raiders" or a "Last Crusade" hat (I already know that the "Crystal Skull" hat isn't the same as the previous ones, as I watched the making of documentary on the DVD. And I think they mentioned that for each film, the hat varied in style anyway).
I think it depends on which movie hat we're talking about, since the original "Raiders" hat looks different from the "Temple" hat, which looks different from the "Last Crusade" hat. The official hat most definitely does not resemble the "Raiders" hat, but looks closer to the "Temple" hat, which I know from reading isn't a very popular hat.
Here's the Cracker Barrel hat next to the "Temple" hat:
If you read the description of the "Temple" hat on IndyGear.com, it matches the official hat almost exactly: "The Temple of Doom fedora they ended up with had a slightly lower crown. Where the Raiders fedora was made with a stove-pipe shaped crown, the Temple had a good amount of taper to it which is immediately noticeable. This fedora also omitted the high tight pinch and instead sported a high, almost un-bashed light pinch."
I think most people forget this stuff because everyone (including myself) thinks immediately of the hat worn in "Raiders" when they think of Indiana Jones.
Wicked. So, the Cracker Barrel hat is more of a replica of the "Temple of Doom" hat than a "Raiders" or a "Last Crusade" hat (I already know that the "Crystal Skull" hat isn't the same as the previous ones, as I watched the making of documentary on the DVD. And I think they mentioned that for each film, the hat varied in style anyway).
Capn_Jack_Savvy
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Re: Looking for a cheap but believable Indy Fedora.
What is the difference between the "Cracker Barrel" version and the "Dorfman Pacific" version? They are both licensed by LucasFilm LTD and has the little Indiana Jones pin in the hat ribbon.
What is the difference between the "Cracker Barrel" version and the "Dorfman Pacific" version? They are both licensed by LucasFilm LTD and has the little Indiana Jones pin in the hat ribbon.
CB2001
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Re: Looking for a cheap but believable Indy Fedora.
I think it's the same hat, Jack. It's just being referred to as "The Cracker Barrel" hat because I and aceofknaves88 both got our fedoras from the Cracker Barrel store. The Cracker Barrel had them available when the fourth film was out in theaters and had both the Indiana fedora and the Jones Senior fedora on sell (at least the one where I got mine had both of them).
BTW, Knave, did you keep the "Indiana Jones" pin on your fedora or did you remove yours? I kept mine on there as you can see in my picture.
I think it's the same hat, Jack. It's just being referred to as "The Cracker Barrel" hat because I and aceofknaves88 both got our fedoras from the Cracker Barrel store. The Cracker Barrel had them available when the fourth film was out in theaters and had both the Indiana fedora and the Jones Senior fedora on sell (at least the one where I got mine had both of them).
BTW, Knave, did you keep the "Indiana Jones" pin on your fedora or did you remove yours? I kept mine on there as you can see in my picture.
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Capn_Jack_Savvy
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Re: Looking for a cheap but believable Indy Fedora.
Got it! Thanks! Confused!
Got it! Thanks! Confused!
CB2001
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Re: Looking for a cheap but believable Indy Fedora.
No problem. Sorry for the confusion (in fact, saying confusion reminds me of a fan film idea I had came up with after buying my hat, dealing with Henry Jones, Jr.'s grand son, who gets named Indiana, and it being set in the 1980s. But I won't bore anyone with that).
No problem. Sorry for the confusion (in fact, saying confusion reminds me of a fan film idea I had came up with after buying my hat, dealing with Henry Jones, Jr.'s grand son, who gets named Indiana, and it being set in the 1980s. But I won't bore anyone with that).
aceofknaves88
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Re: Looking for a cheap but believable Indy Fedora.
I still have the pin on mine. I want to take it off pretty badly, but I'm afraid of what removing it would do to the ribbon.
It's funny you mention having an idea for a story about Indy's grandson, because I had one that involved a grandson named Tennessee who, rather than getting mixed up in archeological problems, gets mixed up in cryptozoological problems (like finding a live Bigfoot and having to protect it from hunters.) Tennessee, much like myself, is terrified of insects and arachnids, his very own version of Indy's fear of snakes.
I still have the pin on mine. I want to take it off pretty badly, but I'm afraid of what removing it would do to the ribbon.
It's funny you mention having an idea for a story about Indy's grandson, because I had one that involved a grandson named Tennessee who, rather than getting mixed up in archeological problems, gets mixed up in cryptozoological problems (like finding a live Bigfoot and having to protect it from hunters.) Tennessee, much like myself, is terrified of insects and arachnids, his very own version of Indy's fear of snakes.
CB2001
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LOL! That sounds pretty interesting. Tennessee sounds like an interesting name, but part of the reason why I had Indy's grandson named "Indiana" was to keep the name "in family" so to speak. And the idea of Tennessee going after Bigfoot and other mythical creatures sound really cool.
Basically, for the Indiana Jones in the idea I came up with, he's a student at Florida State University in the 1980s and he inadvertently gets involved with a quest to find the mythological "Tablet of Destinies" before the KGB do (I sort of pictured the story taking place in 1981, the same year that the original film came out), and would know a lot about various classical mythology from various cultures primarily because he's a Creative Writing major and also takes multi-cultural studies in hopes to be introduced to various possible sources of influences for his fictional work. I always imagined the opening scene of the story would be him in a speech class, where students talk about someone from their family tree, and Indiana talks about his grandfather and some of the "wild stories" he told him when he was younger.
Sorry, didn't mean to jump off topic. Back onto topic we go.
LOL! That sounds pretty interesting. Tennessee sounds like an interesting name, but part of the reason why I had Indy's grandson named "Indiana" was to keep the name "in family" so to speak. And the idea of Tennessee going after Bigfoot and other mythical creatures sound really cool.
Basically, for the Indiana Jones in the idea I came up with, he's a student at Florida State University in the 1980s and he inadvertently gets involved with a quest to find the mythological "Tablet of Destinies" before the KGB do (I sort of pictured the story taking place in 1981, the same year that the original film came out), and would know a lot about various classical mythology from various cultures primarily because he's a Creative Writing major and also takes multi-cultural studies in hopes to be introduced to various possible sources of influences for his fictional work. I always imagined the opening scene of the story would be him in a speech class, where students talk about someone from their family tree, and Indiana talks about his grandfather and some of the "wild stories" he told him when he was younger.
Sorry, didn't mean to jump off topic. Back onto topic we go.
jlee562
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Re: Looking for a cheap but believable Indy Fedora.
I took it off and it didn't really do much to the ribbon.
I took it off and it didn't really do much to the ribbon.
jlee562
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Re: Looking for a cheap but believable Indy Fedora.
Not really, no. If we applied the same standard RPF scrutiny to the Dorfmans, nobody would consider it remotely SA.
As I said earlier, the only thing which makes the licensed hats "Indy" hats (aside from having the license, of course) is that they're brown fedoras.
None of Indy's hats had the teardrop crease on top, the ribbon is a completely different color, and besides the fact that the side dents are blocked on a form, they don't really look at all like the way the hat was creased. There were some shorter Last Crusade hats that may have been product placement for Stetson. There's been a lot of discussion on Club Obi Wan and nobody can definitively say if any Stetson hat made it into ToD or LC. Regardless, Stetson sells their "Temple" fedora to this day, and is the same hat that was first sold as the licensed hat back in the day. They also now have introduced a wool version of the Temple called the Raider II.
That having been said, I actually kinda like the look of the Dorfmans. But, they are definitely a more modern styled hat than Indy would have gotten in the 30's.
If you want reasonably screen accurate, the Akubra Fed IV and the Christy's Adventurer are the cheapest options.
If you want a brown hat that looks reasonably like an Indy fedora, the Dorfmans fit the bill....although an Akubra will be the more resilient hat in the long run.
Here's my Christy's Adventurer, bashed in an LC Style:
For comparison, here's my Stetson Temple:
The Stetson's open crown height isn't more than 5", whereas the Christy's is 5 3/4. Most of the on screen Indy hats seem to come it right around 5 1/2" open crown height. Note that the Temple comes with a wider ribbon....
Not really, no. If we applied the same standard RPF scrutiny to the Dorfmans, nobody would consider it remotely SA.
As I said earlier, the only thing which makes the licensed hats "Indy" hats (aside from having the license, of course) is that they're brown fedoras.
None of Indy's hats had the teardrop crease on top, the ribbon is a completely different color, and besides the fact that the side dents are blocked on a form, they don't really look at all like the way the hat was creased. There were some shorter Last Crusade hats that may have been product placement for Stetson. There's been a lot of discussion on Club Obi Wan and nobody can definitively say if any Stetson hat made it into ToD or LC. Regardless, Stetson sells their "Temple" fedora to this day, and is the same hat that was first sold as the licensed hat back in the day. They also now have introduced a wool version of the Temple called the Raider II.
That having been said, I actually kinda like the look of the Dorfmans. But, they are definitely a more modern styled hat than Indy would have gotten in the 30's.
If you want reasonably screen accurate, the Akubra Fed IV and the Christy's Adventurer are the cheapest options.
If you want a brown hat that looks reasonably like an Indy fedora, the Dorfmans fit the bill....although an Akubra will be the more resilient hat in the long run.
Here's my Christy's Adventurer, bashed in an LC Style:
For comparison, here's my Stetson Temple:
The Stetson's open crown height isn't more than 5", whereas the Christy's is 5 3/4. Most of the on screen Indy hats seem to come it right around 5 1/2" open crown height. Note that the Temple comes with a wider ribbon....
aceofknaves88
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Re: Looking for a cheap but believable Indy Fedora.
Oh there's no doubt the hat I discussed is far from SA, but I was merely pointing out that, when talking about the Indy hats, it's CLOSEST to the "Temple" hat because of the way in which the crown is shaped.
Oh there's no doubt the hat I discussed is far from SA, but I was merely pointing out that, when talking about the Indy hats, it's CLOSEST to the "Temple" hat because of the way in which the crown is shaped.
bendingoak
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Re: Looking for a cheap but believable Indy Fedora.
I would suggest that you go with the akubra Fed4. It's a good hat at a good price. I would not put it in the same class as the Advenutrebilt. Anything less than the fed4 and you will be throwing your money away.
I would suggest that you go with the akubra Fed4. It's a good hat at a good price. I would not put it in the same class as the Advenutrebilt. Anything less than the fed4 and you will be throwing your money away.
