Life Sized Enterprise in Vegas that almost was...

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  1. neosporing

    neosporing Sr Member

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    not sure if this was already posted but...

    A life sized Enterprise was almost built in vegas..

    taken from aint it cool: "Back in 1992, Goddard & Co. came close...very close...to mounting an extraordinarily ambitious project in the heart of Las Vegas, which was looking for ways to make bold statements, establish unusual attractions, and generally revitalize itself. A life-sized Starship Enterprise was proposed...which they actually figured out how to build. Visitors would be able to tour the ship's interior, and engage in a number of entertainment opportunities. The attraction would've looked something like this:"

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    i would have loved to see this...

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  2. alienscollection.com

    alienscollection.com Master Member

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    Oh F--- me...

    ...that would have been awesome...
     
  3. Apollo

    Apollo Legendary Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    This is the same look I gave when I was told about this back when it was first announced.

    :rolleyes
     
  4. Lutso

    Lutso Sr Member

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    It probably wouldn't have looked anywhere near as cool as the concept art.
     
  5. Wes R

    Wes R Legendary Member

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    I agree it would have been changed for various reason and looked horrid.
     
  6. Monster Dave

    Monster Dave Sr Member

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    OMG. I would have moved to Vegas.




    Though that being said, how many of you would have stood outside of it and critiqued it for not matching with the Star Trek Technical Manual schematics...lol...
     
  7. Apollo

    Apollo Legendary Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Would'nt have to.

    It was never going to be built

     
  8. clancampbell

    clancampbell Sr Member

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    That's......extraordinary!

    Seriously, i too would have moved to Vegas if this had become reality!

    Rich
     
  9. GrimmOmen

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    Ho- leeee - s#t.

    Ok, so how cool would it be if they had made it into a hotel???

    Oh the possibilities!


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  10. EyeofSauron

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    i dont see a lot of proplems (see what i did there? :D) with the outside shell at all. the shape is more than possible to build, and cover afterwards. the problem would have rather been the inside, like fitting stuff in perfectly.
     
  11. SSgt Burton

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    They didn't build it...


    WHY???? :cry


    WHHHHHHYYYYYY???? :cry :cry :cry



    Okay I can see the argument that it could have potentially become this giant statue representing the biggest colossal failure in Vegas history and didn't want to take that risk. I get it.

    However something like this "might" have succeded where Star Trek The Experience failed- the ability to attract non Trek fans. I mean even if you couldn't stand Trek wouldn't you at least want to have your picture taken in front of this incredible piece of architecture? And "maybe" some (hopefully most) of those people would want to pay to go inside as they just had to see what was in there?


    I would have walked to Vegas to see this. :cry


    Oh well. One of the pics is now my desktop. :)


    Kevin
     
  12. Keyser

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    :eek :eek :eek:cry:cry:cry
     
  13. Don93

    Don93 Well-Known Member

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    That would have been AWESOME! :eek
     
  14. DavidS

    DavidS Sr Member

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    i see the pylons and nacelles being dangerous.... imagine if one of those suckers "broke" off.... lol
    The Enterprise is cool in a zero G environment, but it would have to have supports and all kindsa stuff just to "hold it up"
     
  15. Jodo Kast 3

    Jodo Kast 3 Well-Known Member

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    That would have been incredible!!



    I would gone just to get onto the Bridge area and yell "Kaaaahn!!!!!!"


    :lol
     
  16. Delmustator

    Delmustator Sr Member

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    They could have built it with the scaffolding like in the last movie and it would have been plenty sturdy.
     
  17. Wakeem

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    Even though the concept art looks cool. I can't help but feel that a life sized Enterprise sitting in Vegas might seem cheesy or touristy. Especially when the interior would most likely have gift shops and other junk.
     
  18. GeorgeC

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    What???

    Like Vegas ISN'T cheesy and tacky already??!!???

    One more freakish, out-of-place attraction can't add that much more of an eyesore to a place that already has a space needle, Egyptian pyramid, pirate galleon, and Eiffel Tower replica downtown!


    OTOH, seeing the thing demolished within 10-20 years would have made the model pyrotechnics in Star Trek III pale by comparison...

    Vegas has no heart for its history. They tear down old stuff as soon as they see a new opportunity to make more money. There's basically little-to-nothing left from when Bugsy Siegel was in the area...
     
  19. GeorgeC

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    double post -- sorry!
     
  20. micdavis

    micdavis Master Member

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    I was in two meetings involving that. Would have been the replica of a lifetime.

    I seem to recall Andy Probert did those two paintings. He did something for it.
     
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  21. cayman shen

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    I would have walked to Vegas over broken glass! But of course it would have been a huge flop...
     
  22. SSgt Burton

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    Oh yeah? Well... I would have... walked to Vegas over used hypodermic needles! And barefoot! In the middle of a snowstorm uphill both ways! :angry

    :lol ;)


    Seriously though, you really think it would have flopped?

    I guess in hindsight it would have eventually, given Trek's history in the early 2000s. :(


    Kevin
     
  23. Treadwell

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    The really entertaining part would be the attempts at re-theming after the license was lost. How can you make a huge Enterprise not look like the Enterprise? COME TO THE NOT-AT-ALL-STAR-TREK-RELATED ATTRACTION!
     
  24. TheDoctor

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    Then security would escort you out saying "If you want to do that, you're going to have to go to our recreation of the Regula moon."
     
  25. Michael Bergeron

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    And here's me thinking "I'd totally buy a plane ticket to go see that!".

    Not as dedicated I guess! :lol

    Would have been AWESOME on a scale I have never before witnessed... :thumbsup
     
  26. 0neiros

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    Let's get the email and possiby twitter account of the pinhead that Kiboshed it, and put it out there. It's sad that one person can just wreck a project anymore. 1:1 scale, yes it could have been one heck of a Hotel/attraction. The waiting list would have been phenominal.
     
  27. Funky

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    Oh...how much money I would have paid to stand on the edge of the saucer section, right up front! :love
     
  28. Treadwell

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  29. ecl

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    The vulcans would finally land and make first contact...and then head to the buffet after realizing their mistake!
     
  30. GeneralFROSTY

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    I'd sooner see a life-size Titanic replica being made before anything Trek.
    Cost would be the first thing that killed this - not to mention the obvious design problems in making this a free standing structure and lastly, the financial longevity of it versus the cost to make.
    True - it would have been incredibly breathtaking to see in person.
     
  31. Michael Bergeron

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    Dare to dream man... Dare to dream.
     
  32. Commander Max

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    I remember hearing this idea back in the early eighties. But that was just fan rumors, and at least a decade before this concept was considered.

    If it had been built Star Trek would have a very different meaning today. Which is a shame, but I do see Mr Jaffe's point. Audiences are fickle, what would be the impression of such a structure in future years?

    Another thing to consider is the changing face of Vegas, back in '92' they were turning Vegas into family friendly town. It was sure something, I thought a lot of the attractions were really entertaining. The Big E would have fit in that idea perfectly. But in later years the idea of bringing Vegas back to an adult playground took hold. So over time all most of the family friendly attractions were removed. I think the ST experience was one of the last to go. In hindsight Mr. Jaffe's decision looked like the right one. That's easy to say since they didn't build it.

    But I think his decision was flawed. How many attractions have created destinations in their own right? Plus how many of those same attractions spawned complementary attractions. Anybody ever hear about Disneyland?
    If you asked the experts of the day they all said it was going to be a flop.
    The real answer was they didn't have a clue, there were things that were similar, but not quite what Walt Disney had in mind. The rest in now history.

    I think the Big E would have had one hell of an impact. Bigger than the entire Star Trek franchise. Who knows, perhapes Lucas would have build something just as big from Star Wars to match. We soon would have had a battle of movie icons popping up all over the Las Vegas Strip.

    But sadly we will never know.

    I wish they did, I would have been there drooling with the rest of you.
     
  33. CessnaDriver

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    I've always thought they should do that.
     
  34. PHArchivist

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    Would love to see someone here Photo-shop a "real" version of this.

    Certainly a "plate" of The Strip or Fremont could be found, and pics of the ship are everywhere...
     
  35. PHArchivist

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    No takers...?
     
  36. SSgt Burton

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    Don't say no one tried. :lol


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  37. ReproMan

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    interesting idea, how many of you lot would have wanted a job there to semi live out your starfleet dreams lol
     
  38. Borjis

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    it wouldn't have been as cool, but they "could" have just made a really big (not to full scale) intricate painting on a very huge wall, with an escalator going up to the entry port then had authentic looking interiors of the ship for the attraction.

    I remember being in Vegas for Comdex in '97 and seeing the hilton/trek experience construction being underway. I really wanted to check it out some day but never got the chance to.
     
  39. PHArchivist

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    Took me a minute to find it!

     
  40. micdavis

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    The plan I saw had a dry dock looking building around it that was the hotel/casino and the ship WAS the attraction.

    All the balconies in the hotel faced inward so every room had a view of the ship.

    There was a "travel pod" transport that would drop you off at different entry points of the ship or hotel.

    That was the last pass I saw of it.

    I was going to be great. Stupid bean counters.

    ....and yes, I was planning on living/working there, just for that.
     
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  41. Angelus Lupus

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    All this is just reminding me that I'm kinda bummed I never got to go see the Experience at the Hilton.
     
  42. micdavis

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    After that abomination they had at Universal Studios, I cringed at the thought of the "Experience". But it was quite good. The transporter effect was awesome.

    I never got to see the Borg version of it, and I only live 6 hours away.
     
  43. SSgt Burton

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    Okay how about a retro one... as if it was built in the 60s... ;)


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    Mic that "Drydock" hotel sounds like it would have worked (at least there wouldn't have been any concern about the structure itself). Surely would have been a massive building!

    One can only dream in hindsight, but I bet it would have been the Mecca for Trek fans!


    Kevin
     
  44. Damrod

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    That would have been neat.
     
  45. SirNedKingsly

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    Oh man - that would have been amazing. I would have paid big money to go there and stand on the bridge of the Enterprise. Assuming, that is, that it was not commercilzed and stayed true to the set of the show.

    So many things that could have been......
    If only they could have foreseen the amount of money they could have gotten every year by using that to host conventions and the like.

    Big money was lost with the cancellation of that I bet.
     
  46. Apollo

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    Awesome Sarge! :thumbsup



     
  47. PHArchivist

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    That's cool!

     
  48. Don93

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    double post
     
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  49. Don93

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  50. SSgt Burton

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    Thanks guys! :thumbsup


    About the Trek theme park in Jordan, isn't it to be solely based on the reboot film?


    Kevin
     

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