Licensed Pulse Rifle pre-order

Im not sure i'd even attempt this with the current laws. Im really surprised the Prop Store was allowed to sell these to anyone, because they do look like a normal gun to people on the street.
I have no idea why these were exempt, but any other gun you get from Prop store you have to have re-enactment membership.

Lewis

It's ridiculous how anti-gun the UK is, even for movie props!
 
Sorry to go a little off topic, but the problem with UK laws regarding replica firearms is that the act is poorly written and in many cases, misunderstood by police and customs officials.

Much is indeed left to the interpretation of those who must enforce these laws and here within lies the problem.
 
Thank you guys (LDR, Trilogy, AJK001, Kes & Monster) for your helpful replies, I really appreciate it :)

Kes, thanks for the comment mate, I hope yours is mint too, & to all you other guys who have been eagerly awaiting it.

I need to make the final payment on my OD. I knew it was going to be a huge gamble getting it through Customs, but I had to get the OD..

I was seventeen when I saw Aliens on the cinema back in 1986, it totally blew my mind. I remember paying £70 for a brand new VHS rental copy on the day of release. Aliens is up there with Star Wars for me.

Lee.
 
Tommin. I don't know who you are or anything about you other than whatever you have on your site. So please don't take anything I say personal or as an attack against you. By the way I've been a fan of your site for years.

No worries, bud.

With that being said I strongly feel your response to Vader's Right Hand is way out of line. The guy is saying what most of us feel. We bought a product (a very expensive product) they promised to be the best and are delivering something else. That would upset anybody....even you I suppose.

Sorry for the confusion. The comment directed toward Cpl Potter was totally in jest. We've been participants in much more heated debates than this and at the time, my sick humor got the better of me. We have clarified via email and there is not any bad blood between the two of us.

Which brings me to something else. Again I've been following this thread and especially the other one you started when you recieved the one of the first PR's to hit US soil. I understand you are a builder, modeler, collector etc. and your 5 star review of the PR was very indepth. Everyone seemed to fully respect you and the review because of who you are. But I noticed something odd.

Not sure about the five star review. I would give a five star review to an original Bapty gun that had over and under firing capability. But then again, that would not be an idealized prop and in it's screen accurate condition, would turn away a lot of collectors as a replica. I merely mentioned: "Given the very nature and complexity of a prop such as this, there is no way to win all the hearts and minds of the avid fans of an old film called ALIENS. But I would argue now, more than ever, the people of HCG have managed to do the impossible. The attention to detail, accuracy, features, customer service, and packaging far exceeds the price point that they managed to offer these units." <==== (and I still stand by this.)

The pictures you posted of it clearly showed the droopage problem. Once somebody pointed it out the lens distortion debate started. People asked you if the PR you had was drooping....I noticed you never truly answered the question. The last I read was you said something about your camera and also said you were gonna pull the beast back out to examine it. Nothing was said after that so the topic faded. So please answer the question: Does the PR you were given by HCG droop like most of the rest so far? I have some theories as to why you never answered the question.

Mine is an un-numbered gun. You can't judge the piece on photographs alone and in first person, you will find that there are lines going in so many directions, it's visually disorienting. But, yes. You are correct. Little was mentioned after that request neither mine for someone to address a pic that examined the lines of an original Bapty pusley. Why the silence? I have a few theories of my own but, they are complete immaterial for the purpose of this thread.

1. You never noticed it and when somebody pointed it out you realized it and felt rediculous for giving a 5 star review. For saying how thoroughly you examined it and being who you are missing something like that ruins some of your credibility. Seriously if thats true how the hell would you miss that?

It was an un-numbered gun; a preview reporting an item shipping. Conversations that I have are not always reflected on message boards. Keep that in mind and also the number of quotations that have popped up within this thread that are un-verifiable to their source. That said, at least one additional thread popped up from it, and a participant has since been banned from this forum. As always, just stating facts.

2. You did notice it but played "dumb" cause after waiting forever and getting the hook up from HCG you didn't want to man up, be honest and say its defective. If thats true I cant blame you cause being in your position to be the first reviewer, especially with lots of us holding our breath, it would be really hard to say it. I mean some purchased it based on your stellar review.

Please refer back to what I would type of pulsey that I would render the 'five star review'. You might not understand the greater picture and my position on replicas but, that is perfectly fine. Others do.

Thats pretty much it. I noticed you were gone for awhile and upon returning seeing whats going on surprising (or not). You did say you didn't want to say anything until a official chimes in and I can understand that. That does however support theory #2. Whatever I swear I have no bad blood against you. I just noticed some things I feel needed to be addressed. Like I said I've been a fan of your site for a long time. I went nuts when you gave it such a high review. So please stop being shady and answer the question with picture evidence. If your PR is perfect then disregard anything I've said and I will put my foot in my mouth.

RH

You are correct. I did want an official to chime in. I've been involved with the replica boards long enough to see quotes thrown around with the intent to stir up political factions. Why this happens is completely beyond me. But it does. So I try to remain quiet unless it is to provide fact or humor. ...and again, if we want to talk fact about my own HCG pulsey, don't forget, it is/was only a preview. Whatever my credentials, it is not my place to act as QC nor be the sole advisor to a company with an original Bapty PR in hand. I took photos. May get inspired to take more. Over the last few days have had many thoughts of gutting this thing and starting 'new' with it. But, then again, once the dust settles from all the debate, I won't want to regret destroying such an iconic piece. :D

Hope this helps. RustedHero, you did ask some good questions. Glad to have peeps like yourself to be part of the RPF. :)
 
Hi guys,

Mine arrived today from PSoL (#186 of 1000).

Very happy with it. Droop is so tiny as to be non-existent.

My stock locking pin was stuck down at first but suddenly seemed to work itself free. The battery cover had popped off inside and it was a nightmare to get the clip out as the batteries were trying to spring out too :/

Finally got it out by inserting a long kebab skewer in to hold the batteries down, then angling the PR so the battery cover would fall against the outer wall and pushing the skewer in further and further and pulling/wiggling harder and harder. Nerve wracking stuff!

I'll definitely be storing this with the battery cover off and the batteries out. They will stow away nicely in the two indentations in the styrene just below the SPAS muzzle. Needless to say, the battery cover is now taped to the clip :)

My only niggles are that my Thompson barrel is slightly off to the left, and that I have a less severe version of the lopsided SPAS cage noted a few pages back. Definitely not a deal breaker for me (for £700, droopage would have been).

I've never had a PR/blaster replica before, so I really am impressed with this. It's both bigger and heavier than I expected, which is great. Aliens IMO was the first film to bring the look of 2000AD's artwork to the screen, and this PR just has that chunky, brutalistic look and feel :)

The resin parts look good enough to my eye. In fact I'm really impressed with the SPAS cage. I actually like how the loading flap, Remington cover and Thompson bolt all wobble slightly, giving you a bit of that militaristic clickety-clack as you heft the thing around. :)

Hope you guys with real problems get a satisfactory solution from HCG.

Worth £700? Can a toy gun ever be worth £700? I think for the money we were right to expect better assembly and QC than we got. However, I've secretly craved a PR since 1986 and the few niggles with mine can't detract from the feeling of having gotten something more solid, detailed, functional and accurate than I'd ever hoped for. Pure subjectivity here, but this thing just feels authentic.

CH
 
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Get this . Now alex at hcg tells me she cant give me a refund , because i dont have the card anymore ,and i quote " The refund will need to occur to the card that you made your payment from, As this was recent , the payment can be refunded quite quickly , however this is the only way that we can refund you " , WHAT kind of bs is this . they cant send me a check ? they cant refund me through paypal ? now i understand they incur a fee when they take a cc payment< and i told them i would be willing to incur that fee , now what , all you guys who have different card through the first 5 payments , can't get your money back .WTF.seriously can there customer service get any worse. it was my debit card through my bank , it was just time to cancel it and get a different number ,so ill call them tommorrow . good luck everyone
 
Worth £700? Can a toy gun ever be worth £700? I think for the money we were right to expect better assembly and QC than we got, but I've secretly craved a PR since 1986 and the few niggles with mine can't detract from the feeling of having gotten something more solid, detailed, functional and accurate than I'd ever hoped for. Pure subjectivity here, but this thing just feels authentic.

CH

This quote seems pretty accurate to how I feel about this overall - though I'm still a few months away from getting mine.
 
My OD PR is on it's way back to HCG. I already have a real steel Matsuo/SD hero and my current finances could use the return of the $$$. I really only bought the HCG in the hopes that the shrouds could be easily adapted for my existing PR. From Matsuo's disassembly and description of how the HCG PR is put together, it appears that most of us will neither have the tools nor experience to easily modify the shrouds to fit other pulse rifle replicas. Kind of a bummer, but my PR already has Matsuo's resin shrouds.

It's really unfortunate that these have had the issues they do. I do applaud HCG for attempting the aluminum shrouds though. It seems apparent that is where most of R&D effort went. So much so that the resin portions seem to have been somewhat neglected. If just a bit more attention was paid to the QC of these, HCG would have hit an absolute home run.

I of course put absolutely no blame whatsoever on either Matsuo or Tommin for any of this. They are pillars of this and other prop communities and I have nothing but respect for the both of them. Any backlash or diatribe towards them is completely inappropriate and unfounded.

I have been saddened to read about folks ongoing issues with HCG customer service. While slow to respond, my experience with them has been relatively pleasant. They have even paid return shipping despite what their return policy states. I have not received a refund yet as my PR is still on it's way back to them. I have high hopes that that portion of the return is free of incident as well. Time will tell.

For those that must have a PR replica but are restricted by import laws or financial woes, the HCG PR is a great alternative. If it came down to an HCG PR or nothing, then it's quite an easy choice.

If you are happy with your HCG PR, please continue to be so. For those that are less than happy, may a suitable resolution can be arranged for you.
 
Get this . Now alex at hcg tells me she cant give me a refund , because i dont have the card anymore ,and i quote " The refund will need to occur to the card that you made your payment from, As this was recent , the payment can be refunded quite quickly , however this is the only way that we can refund you " , WHAT kind of bs is this . they cant send me a check ? they cant refund me through paypal ? now i understand they incur a fee when they take a cc payment< and i told them i would be willing to incur that fee , now what , all you guys who have different card through the first 5 payments , can't get your money back .WTF.seriously can there customer service get any worse. it was my debit card through my bank , it was just time to cancel it and get a different number ,so ill call them tommorrow . good luck everyone

This is not just an HGC thing, most, if not all companies that you do business with, refund this way, this is the way MR refunded my money when I had an issue with one of their products and they did not have any replacements. However you pay for things, is the way they refund you. I'm not saying they should not be able to work something out with you though, since there are a lot of legit reasons why you might not still have the card you bought it with. When I cancelled my first order with them, they refunded me the way I paid for it, which was through Paypal.
 
HGC should finish up the current run, deal with the refunds honorably, then essentially destroy the returned guns in order to salvage parts, especially the shrouds. I suspect there are many among us who would pay a couple of hundred bucks just for the shrouds if removed. I know some bought the whole gun with the intent of stripping off the shrouds. Any fitting issues can be handled by a machine shop or possibly hand tools since the aluminum used was reportedly easy to machine.

Selling off misc. stripped parts and the shrouds should help them recoup some of the loss. Maybe later they can do a run of shrouds only once the M41A run is sold and done.
 
Gideon log on to your HCG account page and look at your order page there should be a tracking number listed in the information.

Now go the the UPS tracking site UPS: Tracking Information and enter you tracking number it should show you where its at and give you a delivery date.

Al
 
Question for Matt, I know you don't have your tutorial ready yet, but will the average RPFer with dremel and normal workshop tools , plus reasonable skills with those tools, be able to adapt the shrouds to Airsoft, or are we talking shop with milling gear etc?
 
I'm just guessing, based on the entire picture, of this thread, that I simply just need to come to terms with the shrouds, and break the 'first' apart. Things would be much easier if I knew exactly where those locking lugs are located. I've got steel to replace any broken resin. It would be a shame to waste so much but, ...that is the very nature of this prop. With, or without, support.
 
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