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At least with respect to Carano, Bob Iger is just fine.

Her lawsuit is absurd and destined to fail.

First, 10 to 1 says that the contract had a "good conduct" clause. This is Disney. They don't play. You mouth off online, they'll fire you.

Second, the contract probably has an arbitration clause that will require it to be arbitrated rather than litigated. The Federal Arbitration Act generally requires that, when your agreement has such a clause, courts don't have jurisdiction over the case. It has to go to arbitration. And once it goes there, it dies. Musk loses any benefit to backing it, because arbitration is a black box and he won't generate publicity from it. Disney can pay off Carano some pittance amount to make her go away, without it becoming a headline, too. Or they can just bleed her out over time because they've got waaaay deeper pockets than her (especially once Musk bails).

Third, the relief called for is...uh....not a thing. Compensatory damages are. Punitive damages are. Specific performance to re-hire you? Um....yeah, don't think that's a real thing guys. The same way we don't have indentured servitude in this country, we don't have forced hiring.

Carano's suit is just headline bait. It's dead on arrival.

I wouldn't dismiss it so quickly. They can fire you for any reason, but they can't then defame you. The last line in this tweet is what might get her money. I never saw anything that she said that did that unless it was "from a certain point of view". That view, being current Lucasfilm employees, is any opinion that they don't agree with. Not to mention, she can show some of the looney things Pedro Pascal posted, which Lucasfilm employees probably agree with, and he didn't get fired. Her comments weren't any worse than anything Pedro said, it's just that Disney/Lucasfilm employees hold his beliefs, not hers.
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I wouldn't dismiss it so quickly. They can fire you for any reason, but they can't then defame you. The last line in this tweet is what might get her money. I never saw anything that she said that did that unless it was "from a certain point of view". That view, being current Lucasfilm employees, is any opinion that they don't agree with. Not to mention, she can show some of the looney things Pedro Pascal posted, which Lucasfilm employees probably agree with, and he didn't get fired. Her comments weren't any worse than anything Pedro said, it's just that Disney/Lucasfilm employees hold his beliefs, not hers.
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None of that is defamatory, because all of that can be described as simply one person's opinion.

Legally speaking, that post doesn't do jack for her case.

Now, if the post can be proven to be false AND she can show that it was posted falsely with knowledge, AND she can show actual harm to her reputation, she could be able to get damages, but....again, that's not really what she's looking for. She wants reinstatement, and you just aren't entitled to that.

This case is gonna get bounced. It's high profile, but all nonsense, legally speaking, at least based on what limited stuff I've seen thus far.

Actually, that raises a separate question: can anyone point to an actual filing yet?
 
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My point of view is this: we don’t know what evidence Carano has collected. If she does have evidence that backs up her claims, then there may be others also who may join in and have additional evidence also, which I would establish, for a lack of a legal term, a pattern of behavior of LucasFilm. This lawsuit in addition to the other lawsuit towards Disney by women claiming to gender discrimination, and the recent earning call stating that they’ve lost 1.3 subscribers for Disney+ due to increasing their prices, it might put Disney in even a small world of hurt than they’re already in.
 
I did see one lawyer commenting on this who said he thinks she has a case, but that Disney will settle. He said Disney probably doesn't want their internal emails about this being available to the public.
 
I did see one lawyer commenting on this who said he thinks she has a case, but that Disney will settle. He said Disney probably doesn't want their internal emails about this being available to the public.
Could you imagine what would happen if she didn’t settle and those e-mails got out? That’d be a David vs. Goliath style win, I would think.
 
The Carano lawsuit is mainly interesting as evidence for Disney's bad management. It won't have legal muscle but it helps draw attention to Disney's general dysfunction in the press.

Musk? He's trolling Diseney. I see no other motive. South Park finally called them out and made it trendy to dunk on them. The amounts of money involved don't have enough zeroes for Musk to have a serious interest.
Lol wouldn't it be something if:
Musk bought Disney? :D
 
My point of view is this: we don’t know what evidence Carano has collected. If she does have evidence that backs up her claims, then there may be others also who may join in and have additional evidence also, which I would establish, for a lack of a legal term, a pattern of behavior of LucasFilm. This lawsuit in addition to the other lawsuit towards Disney by women claiming to gender discrimination, and the recent earning call stating that they’ve lost 1.3 subscribers for Disney+ due to increasing their prices, it might put Disney in even a small world of hurt than they’re already in.
Here's the thing: it doesn't actually matter what evidence you have, if your underlying claim is meaningless or the court can't grant you the relief you seek.

Example 1: Suppose I get into a fight on Twitter with someone and I decide that, to show 'em, I'm gonna sue them for improper use of grammar. I have MOUNTAINS of evidence to support my claim (frequent "Their, there, they're" confusions; your/you're/ur; etc.). I file suit in federal court because they live in another state, but I claim that they've violated the laws of California, and in my complaint (The first document you file in a court case), I say that they've violated California's Good Grammar law. Except no such law exists. But I've got evidence! Doesn't matter. There's no law, so there's nothing to violate. Evidence here is irrelevant.

Example 2: I claim someone has breached a contract. I sign an agreement for someone to come speak at an event I'm putting on. I agree to pay them $8000 up front, provided they come speak on 1/31/24. On the date in question, the other person no-shows, so I sue them claiming breach of contract. I can prove very easily that (1) we had a contract for them to come speak, and (2) they didn't come speak. So far so good. But the relief I ask for is that the court make them paint my house for me in compensation, because I need my house painted. The court will toss my case, because the relief I've asked for isn't something they can give, and UNLESS I also say "Or I'll take the $8,000 I paid, plus some additional damages for booking the venue, hiring the event staff, etc." the court won't say "But we can give you damages instead." Again, even though I have airtight proof that they did the thing I said they did, it doesn't matter because what I'm asking the court to do for me isn't something the court can or will do.

I skimmed Carano's complaint (Which folks can read here if they want: https://deadline.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/gina-carano-disney-suit-feb-6-2024.pdf).

She's asking for a bunch of damages, which is reasonable-ish, if she actually has a case otherwise. The amounts in question seem...kinda low, and that usually suggests to me a shakedown (i.e., an amount that's high enough to be meaningful to the plaintiff, but low enough that the other side won't want to fight over it in court and take on the expenses, so they just settle to make it go away). Meritorious cases (in my opinion) usually ask for higher damages. Then again, there may be some statutory limit involved here. I don't know; I'm not admitted in CA.

But she's asking for "immediate restatement" as if the position she held was something like a salaried position. At least as I understand it -- and I freely admit that I'm neither an employment attorney nor someone knowledgable about how Disney's engagements work -- she was under contract to potentially appear in shows as a guest star, and to star in Rangers of the New Republic before her contract wasn't renewed and the Rangers project was canceled. (I think it's debatable whether she was fired, which is something I'd expect to see in Disney's response to her initial pleading, but we'll see. I've heard they just...didn't renew the agreement because the project was canceled.)

Now, again, I don't know the laws under which she's claiming this relief, so I can't say whether there's actually something there. I know CA laws are generally set up to protect "the little guy" at a baseline, so it's possible she'll make it past a motion to dismiss, if she doesn't get bounced to arbitration on a motion to compel arbitration. If she survives the dismissal motion and this is somehow outside an arbitration claim, then I'd bet this doesn't go past summary judgment if Disney wants to fight it.
I did see one lawyer commenting on this who said he thinks she has a case, but that Disney will settle. He said Disney probably doesn't want their internal emails about this being available to the public.

Right, but that's why they are very, very likely to have arbitration clauses in place. If that's the case, then that's it. The Carano suit disappears from the public eye. Maybe she'll get some money out of it, just to make her go away, but she probably won't be able to disclose the amount (so it could be, like $20K, which is basically admitting her case was BS from the jump, or it could be umpteen million dollars in which case she actually had something), and the parties will likely be bound by NDAs as part of any settlement.

If they don't have arbitration language in place, and/or Disney actually wants to fight it, I doubt she wins. If they settle, keep an eye on any amounts or statements coming out.

She's not coming back as Cara Dune, though.

It's a shame. I liked the character and enjoyed her performance in the role. Her social media stuff was idiotic, though, and basically asking for trouble. This is Disney we're talking about. WTF was she thinking?
 
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A friend of mine just asked me "what is one statement you could make to trigger every Star Wars fan?"

...there are too many. And some are way too easy.

also, I think Star Trek fans live to tell us these things. Isnt it odd that every time they come in contact with us, they know something obscure or super detailed? Like they watch it all the time just to find something to goad us with? I think Star Trek fans secretly love Star Wars.
 
LucasFilm made their reason for releasing Carano public when they posted "her social media posts denigrating people based on their cultural and religious identities are abhorrent and unacceptable."

Is a company absolved of contractual obligations to employee because of social media posts? Unless part of the employee's job description involves social media I suspect the employee's social media conduct might be legally protected.

Note that "Contractual obligations" don't need to be in writing. If LucasFilm even verbally promised to have Carano for x number of seasons of Mando or in Rangers of the New Republic that is as good as written (I think), as far as California is concerned.

So what kind of posts are we talking about? I have yet to find any of her posts that I would construe as overtly "denigrating" in any way. I have seen her posts that criticize (perceived) political excess, but even those didn't seem even the least bit hostile to me. Please send me a link if there's something I missed.

But there are a couple of posts that I have seen referenced which used arguably provocative imagery (about a certain political movement of the last world war) - but the underlying message behind these posts seemed entirely reasonable and inoffensive. (I'm not going to post them here because I am not trying to start a fire).

Then again, some folks have said it doesn't matter if the underlying message was benign; the mere reference was "offensive" enough (and, therefore, actionable). The problem with that argument is that Pedro Pascal and other actors in the production referenced the same political movement in their social media posts without consequence. The only difference was that the underlying messages were of a different political flavor. So does this differential treatment suggest a political bias within Disney/LucasFilm?

Carano's suit makes the case that she was "released" for her personal politics. If that is the case can LucasFilm nullify their contractual obligations because of personal politics expressed in social media?

Let us take a look at Section 1101 of California Labor Code

1101. No employer shall make, adopt, or enforce any rule,
regulation, or policy:
(a) Forbidding or preventing employees from engaging or

participating in politics or from becoming candidates for public
office.
(b) Controlling or directing, or tending to control or direct the

political activities or affiliations of employees.
1102. No employer shall coerce or influence or attempt to coerce or
influence his employees through or by means of threat of discharge
or loss of employment to adopt or follow or refrain from adopting or
following any particular course or line of political action or
political activity....


Furthermore

Section 98.6 - Protections against retaliation
(a) A person shall not discharge an employee or in any manner discriminate, retaliate, or take any adverse action against any employee or applicant for employment because the employee or applicant engaged in any conduct delineated in this chapter, ...



At first it seemed odd that Carano was asking to be back in Lucasfilm to continue her role after all that. But it makes sense when you look at the labor code

(1) Any employer who discharges, or threatens to discharge, or in any manner discriminates against any employee because he or she has filed or made known his or her intention to file a claim for compensation with his or her employer or an application for adjudication, or because the employee has received a rating, award, or settlement, is guilty of a misdemeanor and the employee’s compensation shall be increased by one-half, but in no event more than ten thousand dollars ($10,000), together with costs and expenses not in excess of two hundred fifty dollars ($250). Any such employee shall also be entitled to reinstatement and reimbursement for lost wages and work benefits caused by the acts of the employer.


I think LucasFilm might have shot themselves in the foot when they announced their reasons publicly. Had they kept their mouths shut they could have constructed any defensible rationale after the fact.

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So what does this mean to Disney/Iger? I think Disney should mainly be worried about the discovery process. Internal emails and memos revealed through discovery opens a can of worms for Disney and potentially fuel for more lawsuits against Disney from ex-employees.

Meanwhile, Elon Musk grabs his jumbo bucket of popcorn and takes a seat.
 
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It's pretty clear that it's because she has different opinions than Disney/Lucasfilm. Both Pedro Pascal and Mark Hamill have said some nutty stuff and they had no problem with that. We're living in a time (Orwell's 1984?) where some people, mostly in U.S. media, won't tolerate any opinion other than the one they themselves hold. That's scary. I saw something that said her lawsuit demands she be recast. She has said she'd never work for Disney, nor would I in that situation, so I wonder if she wants her character to stay, but with a new actress? Seems like an odd demand either way.
 
It's pretty clear that it's because she has different opinions than Disney/Lucasfilm. Both Pedro Pascal and Mark Hamill have said some nutty stuff and they had no problem with that. We're living in a time (Orwell's 1984?) where some people, mostly in U.S. media, won't tolerate any opinion other than the one they themselves hold. That's scary. I saw something that said her lawsuit demands she be recast. She has said she'd never work for Disney, nor would I in that situation, so I wonder if she wants her character to stay, but with a new actress? Seems like an odd demand either way.
are they still making merch off her character? Or did they cancel that also?
 
It's pretty clear that it's because she has different opinions than Disney/Lucasfilm. Both Pedro Pascal and Mark Hamill have said some nutty stuff and they had no problem with that. We're living in a time (Orwell's 1984?) where some people, mostly in U.S. media, won't tolerate any opinion other than the one they themselves hold. That's scary. I saw something that said her lawsuit demands she be recast. She has said she'd never work for Disney, nor would I in that situation, so I wonder if she wants her character to stay, but with a new actress? Seems like an odd demand either way.
I don't think she really wants to be back that badly, but is using that to leverage as much compensation as possible. She is also playing along the lines of the lawsuit which cites California labor law that defines relief as "reinstatement and reimbursement of lost wages."
 
Note that "Contractual obligations" don't need to be in writing. If LucasFilm even verbally promised to have Carano for x number of seasons of Mando or in Rangers of the New Republic that is as good as written (I think), as far as California is concerned.

This is an interesting take because Disney thinks they are safe since they didn't technically fire her, they just didn't offer her a new contact after her previous one expired. The question is since in her industry thats functionally the same thing, does that make a difference.

are they still making merch off her character? Or did they cancel that also?

To my knowledge they stopped all merchandise.
 
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