Last Of The Mohicans Rifle Replica
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PHArchivist
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PHArchivist
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Got the additional parts today. As suspected, most are not quite right.
Also, it's apparent I'll need a crash course in gun-smithing, especially in finishing sand-cast metal.
Also, it's apparent I'll need a crash course in gun-smithing, especially in finishing sand-cast metal.
PHArchivist
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Also need some insight on fitting the muzzle cap.
DoctorEight
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Are you talking about the breach plug?
PHArchivist
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The metal fitting just under the barrel muzzle...
The Denix replica had a solid brass fitting, that screwed into and fit to the bottom half of the 5/16" hexoganal barrel.
I ordered a 5/16" muzzle cap in finished nicel plate. But its not solid, nor does it nicely fit the barrel.
I'll have to take some pics to show you what I mean.
Track Of The Wold has some good books I may need to pick up, but stay tuned and stand by if you would like to be my "Coach"!
The Denix replica had a solid brass fitting, that screwed into and fit to the bottom half of the 5/16" hexoganal barrel.
I ordered a 5/16" muzzle cap in finished nicel plate. But its not solid, nor does it nicely fit the barrel.
I'll have to take some pics to show you what I mean.
Track Of The Wold has some good books I may need to pick up, but stay tuned and stand by if you would like to be my "Coach"!
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PHArchivist
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Ha! In setting up pics to better explain, I realized my (STUPID!) mistake...
The muzzle cap I ordered is octoganal. The barrel is hexogonal...
Really, I'm generally not that lame!
The muzzle cap I ordered is octoganal. The barrel is hexogonal...
Really, I'm generally not that lame!
PHArchivist
Master Member
Were genuine rifles even produced with hexogonal barrels? TotW doesn't even offer hexogonal MCs.
May be a casualty of using a cheap Denix as a base... :unsure
May be a casualty of using a cheap Denix as a base... :unsure
PHArchivist
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Here are the pics, nonetheless:
The original muzzle cap
The replacement
The misfit (for stupidly obvious reasons)
A method in which to make it "fit"
The original muzzle cap
The replacement
The misfit (for stupidly obvious reasons)
A method in which to make it "fit"
DoctorEight
Active Member
Ahh, ok, the fore end cap. They just usually cast them and you need to file for a proper fit.
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Absolutely. Hex stock dates back to the 1600s.
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Absolutely. Hex stock dates back to the 1600s.
tk5378
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You might consider emailing Wayne Watson (Welcome to Wayne P Watson's 18th Century Guns), as he built the gun for the movie. He's a great guy and loves to talk gun building (at least he did the last time I talked to him almost 15 years ago...). I'd talk to him about the process of building a functional muzzleloader to replicate it, and then use what you need for your project. Don't know how he feels about non-functional guns. If nothing else, there is a fantastic shot of DDL on his page with the gun, you could get your proper length by doing some measurment conversions based on his height and the fact the gun is sitting on his foot. Hope this helps.
PHArchivist
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Thanks! "Been there; done that..." as they say...! Is it on his foot? Or on the ground near his foot?
Anyway, DDL is slated at 6'1" - 6'2" (73" - 74"). At 74", the gun would be about 68" - 70". I'm gunning for (year, yeah!) about 65" total length. Standard length on the Denix is 58" I believe.
Frankly, I think the length issue (a 10" difference) skewed my scale.
In other words, in shaping and sizing the Roman Nose aspect of the butt, I started before I realized just how long the original was. Hence my butt is too small (yes, I just said that!). Its about 3.5" at its tallest (height of butt plate), though, based on all the available butt plates from TotW, and factoring this possible scale skewing, I think the butt on the original LOTM rifle was probably 4.5" to 5".
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