Kylo Ren: Belt WIP & Guide

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  1. Sni9er

    Sni9er Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Hey guys thought i;d share my work on the belt as well as making it a short guide for the leather uninitiated

    this is the schematic i'l be working too the dimensions are all extrapolated from my Buckle build of 5 inch height:

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    anyway I spent a while in the leather shop today to find the right hide the guys in my local shop are always super helpful and pointed me towards this split hide i like it as it's nice flat and heavy

    here is it next to my buckle and 2 3/8th straps which are too bIg currently, so using my stap cutter i dropped them down to 1/2 inch to match the exhibit:

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    (old on the top new on the bottom)

    the next step was to cut my stitch groove with a groove cutter, set to 1/4 of an inch:
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    result:
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    i did the same to the base belt leather so i can line my sitches up and ensure the streap is in perfect simetry with the edge
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    all the grooves cut:
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    next i used a 6 stich per inch pin wheel to mark my holes on the outer and main belt leather:

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    and a little preview of the stitch wheel marks i'll sew this up tomorrow and add more information :)

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  2. mvanwalks421

    mvanwalks421 Active Member

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    Another brilliant thread of yours to subscribe to
     
  3. MasterEdi

    MasterEdi Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Wow!!!... Fantastic Luke!... You truly are a man of many talents and many trades!... Thanks for showing us all how you are accomplishing this.... Can't wait to see all of it together!
     
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  4. Sni9er

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    So until i find the saber clip i just printed mine for now i will release the file after i check it on a saber ^^:

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    excuse the half finished belt sewing haven't had time/been slacking so haven't finished sewing the belt haha it took my 3 hours to sew one strip on ! i'll post the process of that for educational purposes later today. good things come to those who wait and all that

    Original:

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    on reflection i can see how to improve my mesh the baseplate needs to be wider if I use the M3 Hex countersunk screws as a reference i need to increase the base width by about 10mm each side and also improve the countersunk depth slightly for a flush fit
     
    Last edited: May 19, 2015
  5. levallois

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    That will be awsome =)

    I do an comparaison picture even the belt is 127mm height.

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    The Blue Part is taller than your.
    and I think there are M2.5 Hex not M3.

    PDF A4 fullsize (vectorial) [Downloadable]
     
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  6. Sni9er

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  7. Sni9er

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    Updated:

    Version 1.00 will be ready soon

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    Last edited: May 20, 2015
  8. vaderjeff1744

    vaderjeff1744 Well-Known Member

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    Very NICE!:thumbsup
     
  9. Sni9er

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    Updated to include Video Link also here are some shots of the new modded mesh:

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    it will be available to download shortly:

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  10. levallois

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    Maybe this can help you :

    I started to build 3D shape from picture with "Match Photo" tool (Sketchup).
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    This is the result :
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    I Used AutoCAD to scale it good. and transform to have a good dimention (i.e. 12 not 11.9015246)
    well this is the Result:
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    And the Pdf version:
    LINK
     
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  11. Sni9er

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    nice work I knew I forgot something (to make it wider)

    also FYI i think the bottom two holes can be flat on your drawing as I feel these are probably rivets due to the mangled nature of the head haha
     
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  12. Sni9er

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    Version 2.0 in the flesh:

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  14. vaderjeff1744

    vaderjeff1744 Well-Known Member

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    Looks GREAT!:thumbsup
     
  15. thedarkone

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    Awesome work. Will you be offering the leather belts as well?
     
  16. Sni9er

    Sni9er Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Unfortunately this is not something i'm currently looking at as it is very labor intensive and i am but one man ! haha
     
  17. dday

    dday Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Time to engage my local leather folks to see what they can come up with!
     
  18. Sni9er

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    I'll happily offer my finished template/guide to all once it's finished
     
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  19. vaderjeff1744

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    Sounds GREAT to me! Please share the type/weight of leather with us that you used. Also, are you going to do a run on the saber clip? If not, how do I go about getting one based on your design? Thanks for the help/info. Your belt & saber clip look GREAT!(y)cool
     
  20. Chicagovader

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    Shapeways link doesn't work, belt looks great and the clip is awesome!
     
  21. Sni9er

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  22. Chicagovader

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    Thanks !!
     
  23. Sni9er

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    my hands are killing me but after 3 hours prepping cutting grooving & Stitching the belt is progressing, finished sewing the edging strip today PHEW

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  24. Sni9er

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    Did a little bit of buckle weathering this evening using an exacto blade scraping the surface matching the damage on the exhibit buckle and marking with a pencil

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    (ref) http://upload.dinhosting.fr/7/D/H/Kylo-Ren-Boucle-De-Ceinture-Details.png

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    I then used a tapping technique with various steel object rapidly across the surface to add extra grit to the surface to match the battle damaged look of the buckle in the exhibit:
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    Untouched cast on the left, Weathered on the right (on a failed/reject cast, ignore corners/bubbles), i'll give thisd a light run with some 1000 gritt sand paper tomorrow to take of some of the high spots my poking has left ^^
     
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  25. vaderjeff1744

    vaderjeff1744 Well-Known Member

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    This is really looking GREAT!!! It's starting to come together VERY NICELY!!! LOVE IT!!!:thumbsup
     
  26. levallois

    levallois New Member

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    A really cool accurate buckle !
    close perfection. Love it too.
     
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  27. DarthVoss

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    are the leather belts for sale?
     
  28. Sni9er

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    Currently no it would take to much time as I had to hand sew this
     
  29. DarthVoss

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    ok thanks.
     
  30. Arnianor

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    As Sni9er stated that he's not planning to sell those, I think I can post this without causing any harm to his amazing job.

    If you don't have the materials to make the leather belt yourself, a good tip is to go to a saddler. For them it's a rather easy job. A belt like this in Switzerland (a crazy expansive country, it might cheaper in the US) without the buckle should cost me approx the equivalent of 50-70 dollars, hand maid. The leather I usually pick for stuff like that is 3mm thick, which is thicker than a standard Levi's belt. I never had any problem with those.
     
  31. dday

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    I"m going to a local leather maker tomorrow to talk to them about making these in a small quantity to sell.

    Thank you to Sni9er; for all the great work he put into this and laying the ground work.
     
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  32. Sni9er

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    No worries I will update my diagram to display how the Velcro closure can be sewn in to the belt

    hand sewn this is a slow arduous job but easy for a professional!
     
  33. bh1138

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    That clip model looks great! Thanks for saving me the work of scaling and modeling by sharing it. lol :) Any chance you could put up the saber side of the clip to go with it?
     
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  34. Chicagovader

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    I was going to ask the same thing! I think a 3D printed clip could hold up to minimal use ok until a metal alternative is available.
     
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  35. Sni9er

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    Absolutely I'll upload that later this evening
    Sorry about that Folks!
     
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  36. Chicagovader

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    Have you considered offering the belt clip parts in metal on shapeways?
     
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  37. lewistully

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    I think there is definitely interest in a saber clip. I for one would without a doubt be interested. Watching this closely.
     
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  38. The Amazing SM

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    Fantastic looking belt Luke
    I'm hoping to work on mine soon, I need to find the correct leather. I'm wondering how to go about doing those creases on the strips of leather. I would imagine if rolling them backwards could do something to get a close effect lol. Its a neat little detail!
     
  39. Sni9er

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    Yes rolling back a nice tanned leather will give this effect i think also it will be very subtle from use
     
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  40. plagu3is

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    Any way you would possibly be able to provide the leather strips for us to assemble ourselves? Having trouble finding a 5" wide leather strip lol.
     
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  41. Sni9er

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    Youl need to buy I from a leather wholesaler they will easily provide this
     
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  42. lewistully

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    Any word on the saber clip? This is one of those elusive little pieces that I haven't been able to track down. A metal male and female set would save a lot of people's days!
     
  43. dejordzta

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    I'm pretty sure the clip is custom, too. Could be wrong, though!
    Sni9er has a clip and holder(?) on his shapeways page.
     
  44. Sni9er

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    Yep hot them both also few metal versions in progress!
     
  45. dday

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    WTB functional metal one :D
     
  46. plagu3is

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    I second this
     
  47. dday

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    Sni9er;

    I'm sure you're already on this, but I think a good target price for a functional clip would be in the $30 range, I wonder if it's possible to get it to this target in a milled/cast part. I imagine it can be in aluminium to keep costs down I just don't know how robust the moving clip will be after a bit of use. Well, all about the quality of aluminium I'm thinking.
     
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  48. Sni9er

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    A machine shop is working me up a price for 50 off I think $30 may not be achievable in such small numbers but we will see
     
  49. dday

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    Yeah, all about volume. How many are you asking about to get this ball park price? I know kylo is popular but you have to be realistic so you're not too deep invested where you'll have to sit on an item for a year or more to recover the value.

    If you need someone to split some costs I might be up kick in, would be worth it to get these out at a good price.

    I know when I get my pipes machined it's a huge difference in price when I order 50 vs 20, by about half.
     
  50. Dakran

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    Such a simple method of making a straight line engraving in leather...so much better than the "clamp the metal ruler to the leather" guide method I used!
     

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