K'Tinga Again

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  1. SteveNeill

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    Started another today for a member of this forum Bryan. Today I made the base and got the model parts all trimmed and openings made for the AFT Photon emitter and the impulse engines. all the light blocking done and a custom base.

    Video on the way. It will take hours to load.

    Here's some pictures in the mean time.

    The leather effect on the base I talk about in the video as well as showing you the entire process of building it.

    Steve

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  2. SmilingOtter

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    Snazzy! Looking forward to seeing how it's done.
     
  3. Bryancd

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    SO EXCITED! Already the base looks amazing!
     
  4. Smiling Demon

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    Holy Crap!!!!

    Slow down and give us a small chance to catch up!! :lol
     
  5. SmilingOtter

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    Here's the video:
    KTinga Part OneA - YouTube

    So Steve, the funky texture is the result of spraying primer over clear coat that isn't quite dry?
     
  6. clancampbell

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    I can't believe it!!!!

    I thought to myself, "how the heck did he get that almost leather effect on the base????"

    Happy accident indeed!

    Rich
     
  7. SteveNeill

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    Thanks for posting the video guys. I was having a was with my aging PCs again. Gave up and wen to bed.

    I see they loaded.

    Steve
     
  8. trekriffic

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    That base turned out awesome! What a happy accident with the primer over the uncured clearcoat. I look forward to the next video.
     
  9. Spheric Thor

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    That was a nice accident, now the question is could you ever reproduce it on purpose.

    Chris
     
  10. SteveNeill

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    I think I can. I'll do a test.

    Thanks guys,

    steve
     
  11. Spheric Thor

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    Just remember the steps, Primer, Paint, Clear Coat, Drop & Primer. :lol
     
  12. trekriffic

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    Was that a black primer Steve you put on over the clearcoat? Must be I guess. Normally I've only used grey or white primer myself.
     
  13. division 6

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    Steve,
    Out of curiosity are you going to have the flashing red nav lights on the top of the neck and middle bottom of the main hull?
    Watching the opening scene they pulse at the same time.
     
  14. Caladonis

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    Looking great, cant wait to see the new bridge/front section. That base is awesome!
     
  15. Cadeian

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    Hey Steve!
    You don't know me, but I had to drop in and let you know how much fun I have watching your builds!

    I adore watching the New Yankee Workshop because while I'm watching I get the inescapable feeling that I'm seeing a master craftsman at work. Watching your video updates gives me exactly the same feeling - with a nerdy twist. I love it! Keep up the good work!
    Someday I'd love to own one of your pieces.

    Build on, good sir!
     
  16. SteveNeill

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    Dark gray primer from Rustoleum. It looks black not dark gray.

    And thanks guys for all the nice comments. I appreciate it.

    As for the flashing lights that board to drive them at the same time is 62 bucks. I figure I'll just have them on not unless the client wants to get the board. It also drives the strobes so it's kinda of a waste just for two flashing lights. And they don't make red blinkers except in 5 mm that I could find. Too big and they won't flash at the same time.

    Steve
     
  17. trekriffic

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    You could try using a self-flashing red LED and run fiber to the points on the hull where you need flashing red lights. I did that on my 18" Enterprise build. Using one flashing LED ensures they will all be in sync.
     
  18. Randy13

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    Seriously. With all the multitasking of these builds, photos, videos etc. it’s amazing you have time to sleep and eat. It’s getting to a point where you should have your own category up on top. And as usual, you’re doing a wonderful job. Thank you Steve for sharing your amazing work.
     
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  19. Bryancd

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    Love he look of the base, Steve! Outstanding.
     
  20. SteveNeill

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    Thanks guys and thanks Steve for that thought. I have one flashing Red 5mm in my bin and I'm going to do exactly that!

    Steve
     
  21. kahn1701

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    Steve

    You sure are had to keep up with..LOL
    Your like watching a ALE /Tyson fight.
    When you think you have been hit with a hard right,
    Then comes the left hook...LOL

    Thanks you for kicking my slow mode building A
    into gear with every video you do.....LOL


    Would you have JT-Graphics email address?
    Would like to get the same parts you have on order.

    Thanks again for all you do.
    Paul/kahn1701
     
  22. Spheric Thor

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    Here is JT Grahpic web site it is still under contruction, but has info on his products and contact info.

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  23. kahn1701

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    Got all there webb info.Thanks
    Just need a email address.

    Thanks agian
    Paul/kahn1701
     
  24. Bryancd

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    I can distinctly recall being a 11 years old and going to see ST-TMP in theaters and following that beautiful overture before the opening credits, and then that amazing theme, the new Klingon cruisers flying in formation toward the camera and that rousing music. I was blown away. At the time, I had no idea it was Mark Lenard as the Klingon Captain. I loved those ships and this build by an amazing artist like Steve is a dream come true.
     
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  26. SteveNeill

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  27. robn1

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    Steve that last link goes to part 2, is there supposed to be a 3 yet?

    The model's looking great. I like the idea of sanding the fiber optic to make the light radiate out more. The flash looks a little fast, in the movie it appears to be 1 second on and one second off.

    I took some caps from the Bluray, I hope they can be useful.
    ST TMP Klingon Ship pictures by robn1 - Photobucket
     
  28. Bryancd

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    Wow, thank you so much for posting those screen caps. It verifies something I had always wondered about regarding the red "window" in the bridge. In the close up, which was likely a larger more detailed model of just the bridge tower and upper part of the head area, the red bridge window seems to be offset from center. But then as the ship is making it's escape, you can see the red light on the full model but it's facing forward. It used to make me think that the Klingon's had an offset bridge like the TOS Enterprise. :)
     
  29. robn1

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    I'm not aware of an enlarged bridge model, it's not mentioned in anything I've read about it. It looks like a close up on the full ship model. I think it's just a matter of angle, the light falls off. The center window is there, the light just doesn't show through.

    Notice that the markings on the hull topside have spotlights, like the Enterprise.
     
  30. Bryancd

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    For some reason I thought I recall seeing a larger, more detailed model of that area but I could very well confusing it with something else.
     
  31. SteveNeill

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    Rob there's only two videos so far and to make that light blink at the right speed we'd have to have a board from Randy that is 62 bucks and it's for NAVs and strobes. It would be a waste to use it for two red blinkers and there's nothing else available I'm aware of.

    steve
     
  32. division 6

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    Nice work in the blinkers Steve.

    robn1 thanks for the screen caps.
    I never noticed that there where also red windows on the back of the bridge dome.
    They also confirm that there are 2 lights on each side where the boom attaches to the front bulb, I couldn't tell if they where just a reflection or not in other pictures.
     
  33. Nelson Au

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    Steve, This is another great build to follow. It's another kit I'll attempt. I just pulled out my K'Tinga kit from the 1980's!

    I had no idea there are accurizing parts available for this kit, that's great. I was looking at the parts on JT Graphic's site. It looks like you can replace the neck as well. And he's got parts for the Quonos One version that has the lighted nacelles. I'll have to get the K'Tinga version parts.

    I was studying the photos of the filming model on the cloudster site of The Motion Picture version and some images on Ed Miarecki's site. ( I know he's not popular, I don't like what he did to the Enterprise either! ) He restored the Quonos One version. I was wondering how you'll paint the model. I gather the K'Tinga version is more greenish and grey with reds while the Quonos One version is tan and red.

    Looking forward to the next chapter and how the clear bridge parts look! How you light the bridge will be interesting to see.

    And I also found my Vulcan Shuttle kit from the same era. I wonder if you'll ever tackle that one!
     
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  34. trekriffic

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    Steve,

    Glad I coudl help you out with the blinker suggestion.
    One other thing, I noticed you hardwire the ship to the support rod.
    Have you considered using a coaxial plug and jack setup instead?
    That way, you can unplug the model from the base if you want to fly it around the room.

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    I buy these from Radio Shack. Size K works well for these size models.

    Anyway, you may have good reasons for using the hardwire method and if that's the case feel free to ignore this post.
     
  35. Spheric Thor

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  36. Bryancd

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    Having built this same vintage kit a few times myself including on original release in 1979 I can attest to some of the poor part fits. Steve, the ST-VI Klingon cruiser you did last month, we're the molds the same or did they rework them?
     
  37. Shadowknight

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    What scale is this model? I've been thinking about picking one up.
     
  38. Bryancd

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    I think it's 1/650, the same as the smaller refit Enterprise.
     
  39. SteveNeill

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    Those won't fit the tube very well and the connectors over time can start to loose a good contact which is why I switched to deans connectors. They are just solid.

    thanks Chris for posting video!

    Steve
     
  40. trekriffic

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    I see. To be honest I've noticed on my 18 inch model that in order to get the lights to go on I have to turn the coax plug a certain direction before I get a good contact. I've heard of using electrically conductive paste to improve conductivity but have never tried it. Sounds messy.

    That's interesting about CA fumes and fiber breakage. I've known for years that fiber and CA shoudln't come in contact with each other but I'd never heard the bit about fumes.
    Guess ya learn something every day.
     
  41. DS Operative

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    Steve-- I've seen some builds where the modeler used Hot Glue from a glue gun to fix the fibers in place on the inside of the model. I see that you're using 5min Epoxy. Do you have any thoughts or comments on the hot glue method? Thanks!
     
  42. SteveNeill

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    I wouldn't use it myself the heat is a risk IMO.

    Here's the 4th video guys.

    K'Tinga Part 4
     
  43. SteveNeill

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  44. Spheric Thor

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    The paint mixtured you came up with looks great Steve.
     
  45. Bryancd

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    LOVE the color, exactly what I envisioned. Who made he plaque for Chris, I want to do something similar.
     
  46. trooper

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    man thats nice :) that model is a true test of petience

    i wish some one would send me free kits :) i want that stargazer
     
  47. Shadowknight

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    Thanks! I just picked one up on ebay.
     
  48. Spheric Thor

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  49. SteveNeill

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    Thanks guys! Busy, busy on Space Command. New thread and video later tonight. In the mean time you can go here. Space Command | Facebook


    Steve
     
  50. Cadeian

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    Excellent work with the paint! And I'm VERY excited to see what becomes of that Stargazer model.
     
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