Kingsman: "Carnwennan 9mm" * Video Update 8.23.18

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  1. Sundowner

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    First off I really enjoy prop firearms and I was seeking out a garage project since the weather is FINALLY breaking here in the midwest. After seeing Kingsman: The Secret Service I knew what that project was going to be their service pistol! I don't recall the make/model/name of the pistol ever being mentioned in the movie so I decided to call it the "Carnwennan 9mm". I chose this name as it was the name of the magical dagger of King Arthur and we know how heavily the Kingsman play into the Arthurian Legends.

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    I purchased a metal airsoft blowback Tokarev TT-33 as this was the base model for the Kingsman standard sidearm.

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    My list of things to do
    • Trim trigger
    • Trim hammer
    • Remove lanyard points
    • Trim/ Replace trigger guard
    • Trim down rear sight
    • Add a second trigger
    • Add metal swing down shotgun launcher
    • Replace grips with real wood grips
    • Making a silencer

    I assume the launcher swings down instead of forward but I don't know for sure. I plan on keeping this able to fire and possible bouncing around the idea of working shotgun launcher.
     
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  2. mtrixman

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    Loved the movie. Please Please do a run!
     
  3. Sundowner

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    My goal is to get a really accurate replica first and then maybe do launcher kits or resin copies!
     
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    Cool. I'm up for a commission work too if it means getting a " hero" version
     
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    From the second photo you posted, it looks like there is a latch under the trigger guard, and the barrel swivels down from the muzzle. There is a hinge pin at the top front, under the guide rod.

    David.
     
  6. Sundowner

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    That is what I figured but I didn't know for sure. This seems like it would make the most sense too!
     
  7. Sundowner

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    Made some progress with trimming down the hammer flush with the frame. If anyone works with airsoft guns, make sure you take pictures before your dissasemble anything especially those small parts. Luckily this field strips like a real steel 1911.

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    Small update, I finished cutting/trimming down the trigger and hooray it still fires! So far it's a pretty fun build. Up next will be replacing the trigger guard and rear sight.

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    Spending my short time on the trigger guard today!

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  10. Sean

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    Looking great man! are there any pics of the gun from the right side. looks as If the shot gun part may wrap further around on that side. and i agree with the thought that it breaks from the trigger gourd down. pivot point at the front. i was looking at some grenade launchers to tr\y and get an idea of the locking and cocking mechanism. but i couldn't find anything decent.

    keep up the fantastic work my friend...


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  11. Sundowner

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    I've decided to not make the shotgun functional. There is so little room for the second trigger, I don't think I can even fit a spring in there. So it will just be a dummy one but the gun will still fire airsoft pellets through the main barrel. I will make the shotgun barrel open and close with a dummy shell in it though.
     
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    That's cool. look foreword to your progress.
     
  13. Sundowner

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    Thanks Sean!

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  14. Sundowner

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    Working on the under barrel! It's getting challenging but still fun. I think I may make 3 pieces instead of doing a resin run or just the under attachment. I'll keep one and sell the other two complete pistols. Just thinking out loud I guess hahaha.

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    Picked up this guy for a few dollars!

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  16. Sundowner

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    Finishing up the second trigger today. Unfortunately there is just NO room to make it functional or move for that matter. Also just waiting on a few parts to come in. More to come!
     

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  17. Sean

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    may not move. but it looks great! :thumbsup
     
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    Thanks Sean!
     
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    Very awesome, I was looking into finding a cheap tokarev to convert it but with their only being the metal replica I wasnt about to tear it down and mess it up, looking forward to the finished product, and like others I'd totally be down with a kit if your still toying with the idea lol
     
  20. Sundowner

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    The metal blowback is actually pretty close to the real steel in terms of dissasembly. I was super nervous to take it apart but it wasn't too bad. I only had one panic moment when I missed a piece and couldn't get it to cycle.

    I'm still messing around with some options for folks interested. I'll keep y'all posted! Thanks for all the replies!
     
  21. Sundowner

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    Today I have finished most of the drop down mechanism for the under barrel shotgun. I also shaved down the rear sight and made a slide release lock for the under barrel shotgun.

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  22. Sean

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    Nice work. may i ask what your using there? I can't tell if it's wood metal or plastic.
     
  23. Sundowner

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    Thanks! I'm using all aluminum for this project except for the grips which will be wood. I'm debating on checkering the grips by hand or having them cnc'd. The checkering looks like an art and I would be a big time novice!

    If it weren't for you Sean, I would be talking to myself in this thread hahaha
     
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  24. Sean

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    LoL. well your getting allot of views. what did you use to bond the small pieces of aluminum together? that's a cool way to form something in metal. nice work!:thumbsup
     
  25. Mike J.

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    I'm following along, enjoying seeing your progress... :)

    Why did you laminate those thin pieces of aluminum together for the shotgun release? No thicker stock? What did you use for it, JB Weld?


    -MJ
     
  26. Sundowner

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    double post
     
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  27. Sundowner

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    I just used superglue and started filling. I've never done anything like that but it seems to be working out so far!

    Thanks for following MJ! So just super glue for those pieces. I didn't have any thicker thicker stock aluminum so I decided to try this method. If it doesn't hold up, I'll try something a little thicker to shape. I plan on using JB Weld on everything that I can pin together. It just takes SO long to cure!
     
  28. Sundowner

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    My dummy shells came in today but unfortunately they won't fit the shotgun. The dummy rounds are 12 gauge and I think they must have used at least a 20 gauge or 28 gauge shell in the real steel. But no worries, they will look great on display once they are cut down and painted!

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    I'm getting ready to move on to the grips but I'm having an issue. I'm planning on making custom wood grip but everywhere I've looked for checkering tools but they seem to be sold out everywhere. I may have them cnc'd if I can find someone to do them.
     
  30. Noeland

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    Really nice progress. The purple usually denotes 16 ga. shells, but the film being a fantasy, means zippo. ;) They had a few colors of shells, including orange. I've only seen less lethal orange shotgun shells, in 12 ga. Also, the shells look smooth, not ribbed like your average shotgun shell.

    I tried doing my own checkering once. I don't have the proper vice to hold the grips though and it was a disaster.
     
  31. Sundowner

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    I may 3D print some custom shells since I don't want to mess with real rounds (removing primers, size)

    I can't seem to find a service that will cnc checkering for some reason.
     
  32. Sean

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    What about asking DaveG ?
     
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  33. Sundowner

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    I chatted with DaveG a few weeks ago and he said he didn't care for cnc checkering on wood. He suggested that I buy the tools and learn myself. I'd love to go that route but like I said for some reason there is a shortage. I have seen quite a few wood checkered 1911 online but haven't found a service yet. I could always 3D print them but I'd prefer to do them in wood, especially since I plan on doing a few builds.
     
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  34. Noeland

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    I have a box of empty shotgun shells. If you want some let me know.
     
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    Thanks Noeland, I'll let you know!

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    Thanks Noeland, I'll let you know!
     
  36. RiotJavelinDX

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    Looking great, keep it up. I'd love to have one.
     
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    Thank you! I should be finished with everything but the grips in about a week. I'll post more pictures when I can!
     
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    Hi Sundowner!

    I am usually not an arms-guy but I looove the "Carnwennan 9mm" (great name by the way!)
    If you make a run I would be ready to order two.
    I look forward to seeing your progress.
     
  39. Sundowner

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    Thanks so much! I'm trying to decide if I want to do a resin copy, parts kit or completed airsoft conversion. This one will be for sale but I'm putting a lot of work into the display so I can get a decent price for it. Trying to fund the project! I'm pretty new to doing runs
     
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    Amazing work all around. Can't wait to see it finished and definitely interested if you decide to take commissions for more in the future.
     
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    Thanks so much!

    I'm working on stripping paint and repainting right now. I'm also working on a nice display
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    Thanks so much!

    I'm working on stripping paint and repainting right now. I'm also working on a nice display
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    I'm officially on to paint! I'm really happy how the finish turned out having used automotive paint.

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  43. Sean

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    Looks great! what paint did you use?
     
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    I love everything except that it says "Replica Prop" :p
     
  45. Sundowner

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    Ya sorry, I have had issues with sending prop guns overseas so I usually have replica prop put somewhere.

    Working on on the display!
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    While waiting for paint to dry, I finished these. The lighting makes them look lighter than they really are.

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    Some good news for you is that they actually make the mini madbull launchers for airsoft pistols that function.
     
  48. Sundowner

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    Thats awesome! Any more information on those?
     
  49. Noeland

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    Love that ID plate!! Nice work on the shells too. Nice work all around!!
     
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    The Madbull grenade launchers only use replica 40mm grenade shells. Wouldn't work with your pistol, SD...
     

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